Reggie Robinson future not looking good

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LOL at Reggie Robinson being a bust. Cowboys zone at its finest overreaction. He is a 4th rounder those guys are hit and miss. Experienced secondary players have been terrible at learning Nolan’s defense. We might have found something with Donavon Wilson and I remember they put him in against Detroit last season and he was terrible. Let’s let it play out. This guy has talent. Let’s develop it.
Possibly. If he lacks lateral agility and burst, which his scouting reports point toward, he lacks talent.
 

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We are all well aware that all rookies were going to be behind the eight ball this year due to lack of any off-season, but to be a gameday inactive for the entire season is troubling. We discussed it may be difficult to find him snaps with the defense this season, especially him learning a new position at safety, but him not being a core special teamer doesn't bode well for his long-term future with the team. I hope I'm wrong, but Robinson is trending to be a draft bust.
A bit early to determine that isn't it?
 

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I'm not complaining about the 2020 draft haul at all, but the Reggie Robinson pick was a head scratcher for me. I mean they took this guy before Tyler Biadasz and the All American Bradlee Anae. I assumed they saw a superb athlete at the lower level and couldn't resist. He may just need some time to adjust to the NFL, but a 4th round pick was a bit high for a project when we needed more ready made talent.

Tyler Biadasz is obviously a great fit at center and a complete steal in the 5th. We really lucked out on him and could have missed out because we took a D2 "project". A starting caliber center in the 5th round. Wow. But would the coaches even have played him if Looney hadn't got hurt?

Bradlee Anae was a D1 All American who had 13 sacks and 14 TFL his senior year at Utah. He had 3 sacks and was named Def MVP at the Senior Bowl. He fell to the 5th because his arms are too short and supposedly not that great of an athlete. The coaches need to give him a shot and see what he's got. Normally I would assume the coaches knew what they were doing, but after trotting Poe and Crawford out every week. I have my doubts about the coaches ability to play the best players. If nothing else I bet Anae isn't infected with the same sickness that is obviously affecting the veteran players. That may be what this team needs is a purge of the players that are infected with affluenza that grips most of the players on defense.

Honorable mention goes out to Francis Bernard. They need to get this kid some playing time as well. Jaylon could use a rest to think about how he's played so far this year.

Some good ole competition could cure what ails this football team. There is wayyy too much entitlement of starting positions.
 

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Possibly. If he lacks lateral agility and burst, which his scouting reports point toward, he lacks talent.
How did you come to that conclusion. He runs a 4.4 and is 6’1 we should find out about him soon enough.
 

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We haven't heard much good or bad on Robinson, he's just probably not ready to contribute. Sometimes players rise to the challenge when presented an opportunity and at some point later this season he'll probably get one.

I have a hard time writing a young player off after 1 season. Hill is a recent example that spent most of 2019 inactive and made nice strides this year. The Cowboys will be turning over a lot of the secondary next year which should give Robinson opportunities. If not, let's be honest with ourselves that 4th round picks are lower probability hits anyway, and don't know how anyone can label one a bust.
 

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You wouldn’t necessarily expect a 4th rounder to be a major contributor his rookie season, but you would expect to see him on the field at some point. Especially, considering all the injuries we’ve had to our secondary.

It should also be noted the team made the determination to move him to corner to safety pretty early on so there may be some red flags there.
 

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I'm guessing they are thinking he needs a full offseason since the change of position, especially as a rookie. But you're right, it's puzzlingly he can't at least contribute to ST.
Numbers effect ST so that could be the reason but it’s a legit question
Changing positions during this past off season would be tough for a veteran
 

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He is not a bust even if he gets cut next week. He was a late 4th round pick. Lots of 4th round picks don't make it in the NFL.

I also think moving him to safety puts him at a disadvantage. No training camp or preseason to get some experience is a big deal.
 

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Hard to rate him without any practice, preseason, or game tape. None of us have any idea.

Yeah, he has been inactive. I would not extrapolate much from that on a 5th round draft pick. He was not drafted with this year in mind.

Anae has been active but hardly sees any action. He has looked decent when out there.

It would be nice to get him active and see what he has. Get some real data on him and see where he is in his growth progression. Maybe soon. Can’t hurt to try him.
Very good post, I feel the same way.

I would like to see all the young guys get a lot of snaps. Seems to me that would be the smart move if you wanted to start projecting into next season.
 

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it hasn't even started yet.
they should give him some snaps at CB and let him play on s teams.
 

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If Reggie Robinson were anything close to a plug and play type guy, he wouldn't have been a fourth round pick. Obviously, he's raw and will require more time before he's ready to be tested as a starter. The fact that he's not even a special teamer does cast some doubt that he'll get there, though. Yet, the Cowboys aren't the kind of team to give up on anyone with a fair shot to succeed. We simply need to be as patient as the team is. ;)

Can I rent you out and just have you follow me all day? I probably wouldn't punch as many things. You always sound about as even-keeled as is humanly possible.
 

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we don't have the best of quality coaches and that would include DB coaches too.

but as one pointed out no offseason, no OTAs, no preseason, and limited camp for a rookie guy that has no NFL experience and needs
time to adjust to new posiitons i'm not calling him a bust pick yet.

Even Trysten Hill's rookie was a bust as he was inactive a good part of the season. But he was really coming on until his ACL injury.

i would say in a losing down in a tank season, i'd deactivate a guy Darion Thompson or Steven Parker to put Robinson in there at
some part of the latter season.
 

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You wouldn’t necessarily expect a 4th rounder to be a major contributor his rookie season, but you would expect to see him on the field at some point. Especially, considering all the injuries we’ve had to our secondary.

It should also be noted the team made the determination to move him to corner to safety pretty early on so there may be some red flags there.

i would have thought Robinson be given a chance to be at least Kevon Frasier type role his rookie year given his special teams rap in college. .
 

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A bit early to determine that isn't it?

Perhaps, but we have seen the entire draft class active at some point this season. If Robinson is a project and cannot play on special teams, it will be a challenge for him to make the team next year. Sounds like a future, practice squad player.
 

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we don't have the best of quality coaches and that would include DB coaches too.

but as one pointed out no offseason, no OTAs, no preseason, and limited camp for a rookie guy that has no NFL experience and needs
time to adjust to new posiitons i'm not calling him a bust pick yet.

Even Trysten Hill's rookie was a bust as he was inactive a good part of the season. But he was really coming on until his ACL injury.

i would say in a losing down in a tank season, i'd deactivate a guy Darion Thompson or Steven Parker to put Robinson in there at
some part of the latter season.

I fully understand Robinson not being ready to play within the defense, especially learning a new position, but not to play on special teams is troubling. Backups have to be able to play special teams or they won't be on the roster
 

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I fully understand Robinson not being ready to play within the defense, especially learning a new position, but not to play on special teams is troubling. Backups have to be able to play special teams or they won't be on the roster

having no preseason to prove himself - even as special teamer - and make an impression hurt Robinson.
They knew by his tape and Senior Bowl that he'd be raw.

best bet would have to be latter in year per coaches decision
 

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Perhaps, but we have seen the entire draft class active at some point this season. If Robinson is a project and cannot play on special teams, it will be a challenge for him to make the team next year. Sounds like a future, practice squad player.

Bradlee Anae may have been made game active, but you would never know it by the way Tomsula is NOT using him.
 

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He’ll be a vague memory when we finally upgrade the safety position....oh wait we won’t. Reggie will have a shot then lol
 

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We are all well aware that all rookies were going to be behind the eight ball this year due to lack of any off-season, but to be a gameday inactive for the entire season is troubling. We discussed it may be difficult to find him snaps with the defense this season, especially him learning a new position at safety, but him not being a core special teamer doesn't bode well for his long-term future with the team. I hope I'm wrong, but Robinson is trending to be a draft bust.

Wilson was in the same situation last season. I remember fans calling for him to have more playing time. But it never happened. He is getting it this year the last few games it seems.
Not concerned with Robinson and lack of playing time at this point.
 
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