DLaw 1st among edge run stoppers

TheMarathonContinues · Nov 11, 2020

CATCH17 said:
He gets paid like he’s a superstar player. He needs to be that or come close to it.

I don’t even notice him.

You don't notice him because he doesn't get a bunch fo sacks lol. I bet you notice Aldon even though he's outplayed Aldon.......

If the bar is Aaron Donald and Khalil Mack....no...he's not them. Has he played as well as Frank Clark has? Yep and that's the level of player he is.

CATCH17 · Nov 11, 2020

rocyaice said:
You don't notice him because he doesn't get a bunch fo sacks lol. I bet you notice Aldon even though he's outplayed Aldon.......

If the bar is Aaron Donald and Khalil Mack....no...he's not them. Has he played as well as Frank Clark has? Yep and that's the level of player he is.

I watch the Dline every play. I formed this habit as a child watching Haley and D. Ware later on.

Im not saying he’s bad.

I’m saying for 100 million he’s a rip off.

Sacks, pressure, and turnovers are everything the modern game. His run defense means very little to me when Theyre paying him 100 million for the other.

kumizi · Nov 11, 2020

beware_d-ware said:
The fans who trash him for not getting sacks are the same fans who said Byron sucked because he didn't get picks.

Boom

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kumizi · Nov 11, 2020

CATCH17 said:
I’m saying for 100 million he’s a rip off.

Sacks, pressure, and turnovers are everything the modern game. His run defense means very little to me when Theyre paying him 100 million for the other.

Then you cant pay Dak because he's not Mahomes or Rodgers.

You shouldn't have paid Amari because he's not Michael Thomas or DeAndre Hopkins.

When guys reach free agency, they get paid. It's not Demarcus Lawrence's fault he's just a very good but not elite player.

CATCH17 · Nov 11, 2020

kumizi said:
Then you cant pay Dak because he's not Mahomes or Rodgers.

You shouldn't have paid Amari because he's not Michael Thomas or DeAndre Hopkins.

When guys reach free agency, they get paid. It's not Demarcus Lawrence's fault he's just a very good but not elite player.

What’s working in this league..? How are teams winning titles..? Do that.

We’re out here think we will win Superbowls by paying WRs, RBs, and a QB that’s not elite like he is elite.

Not to mention we let a elite corner walk.

Mediocre team incoming.

Proof · Nov 11, 2020

Hawkeye0202 said:
Leadership........working his axx off ( good for him )

minus the leadership. He’s kinda balling tho

Proof · Nov 11, 2020

Oz-of-Cowboy-Country said:
Taco Charlton and Joe Jackson were run stuffing DE's also. Just saying.

Just saying what?

Proof · Nov 11, 2020

rocyaice said:
He does all of that. The only people who care about sacks are stat geeks and fantasy players. You get paid 100 million to make plays. Not just for sacks.

thats not even remotely true. EVERYONE cares about sacks, guys are paid for sacks, and it would be nice if he produced more. What he’s doing is plenty impressive, but adding his former sack numbers to the mix wound really **** a lot of people up. It’s similar to Byron. Fantastic corner. Wish we still had him. He had great impact, but if he had picks too he’d still be here

Proof · Nov 11, 2020

kumizi said:
Then you cant pay Dak because he's not Mahomes or Rodgers.

You shouldn't have paid Amari because he's not Michael Thomas or DeAndre Hopkins.

When guys reach free agency, they get paid. It's not Demarcus Lawrence's fault he's just a very good but not elite player.

Very very false equivalence. Mahomes and A-rod are arguably 1-2 in the GOAT conversation and QBs are much harder to find. Also Dak won’t make what Mahomes is and will get his deal well after A-rod.

Loso86 · Nov 11, 2020

Hawkeye0202 said:
Leadership........working his axx off ( good for him )

Lol This doesnt matter to most zoners, its sacks or nothing

Hawkeye0202 · Nov 11, 2020

Proof said:
minus the leadership. He’s kinda balling tho

What's leadership to you????

Proof · Nov 11, 2020

Hawkeye0202 said:
What's leadership to you????

Not talking so much (unless and only if you consistently back it up)

not telling fans “*** all of you”

not creating the ridiculous hot Boyz and being completely tone deaf.

personally.

TheMarathonContinues · Nov 11, 2020

CATCH17 said:
I watch the Dline every play. I formed this habit as a child watching Haley and D. Ware later on.

Im not saying he’s bad.

I’m saying for 100 million he’s a rip off.

Sacks, pressure, and turnovers are everything the modern game. His run defense means very little to me when Theyre paying him 100 million for the other.

But he’s offering far more than just run defense I mean you see him play right? He’s disruptive against quarterbacks.

CATCH17 · Nov 11, 2020

rocyaice said:
But he’s offering far more than just run defense I mean you see him play right? He’s disruptive against quarterbacks.

Sorry I don’t see it.

2017 Lawrence jumped off the screen. Now I have to break out the magnifying glass.

He’s a rip off until he makes plays like he’s paid to do.

TheMarathonContinues · Nov 11, 2020

Proof said:
thats not even remotely true. EVERYONE cares about sacks, guys are paid for sacks, and it would be nice if he produced more. What he’s doing is plenty impressive, but adding his former sack numbers to the mix wound really **** a lot of people up. It’s similar to Byron. Fantastic corner. Wish we still had him. He had great impact, but if he had picks too he’d still be here

Alright if you want someone who gets sacks for get Bruce Irvin or Robert Quinn and see how much your defense will continue to suck. It’s amazing man a guy in a 16 sack season will probably average less than 1 sack a game. You guys are putting this stock in sacks but your defense can still get tore up with just averaging one sack per game. It’s more to the game than just sacks.

Kaiser · Nov 11, 2020

beware_d-ware said:
PFF has him as I think their #4 EDGE in pass rushing grade, and #3 in run defense. ESPN has him at #8 in the league for pass rush win rate, in addition to being top 3 in run stop rate.

So I don't want to hear "we don't pay him $20M to stuff the run!", because he's doing work as a pass rusher too. The fans who trash him for not getting sacks are the same fans who said Byron sucked because he didn't get picks.

And the key thing is a lot of guys who rate high in those metrics are high one, but not both. DLaw's value is that he is good at both.

TheMarathonContinues · Nov 11, 2020

CATCH17 said:
Sorry I don’t see it.

2017 Lawrence jumped off the screen. Now I have to break out the magnifying glass.

He’s a rip off until he makes plays like he’s paid to do.

Of course he jumped off the screen to you because he had 14 sacks lol....

buybuydandavis · Nov 11, 2020

Hawkeye0202 said:
Leadership........working his axx off ( good for him )

PFF exposes DLaw's full ratings to the public from the Roster. They like him a lot. 3rd overall, 4th run, 6th pass
https://www.pff.com/nfl/teams/dallas-cowboys/9/roster

But not his own page? Weird.
https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/demarcus-lawrence/8669

USArmyVet · Nov 11, 2020

Hawkeye0202 said:
Leadership........working his axx off ( good for him )

Well worth the $20M+/season he is being paid to be a sack artist.....not.

CATCH17 · Nov 11, 2020

rocyaice said:
Of course he jumped off the screen to you because he had 14 sacks lol....

And that’s why we paid him a 100 million..

What’s his value now if he hit the open market?

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