Dak or Dalton?

[Kevinicus]

At what cost?
What's the state of the OL (or other injuries)?
State of the defense?

Actually, the first one is probably all that matters.

 

[basel90]

Dak only if below 33 mil. Otherwise dalton and the draft is best for this team future. This team needs a lot and the QB is not the issue

 

[5Stars]

pay Dak the market value...not what he wants...there is a difference.

Dak has had a good offensive team around him, crappy coaching. since cooper, he has led the #1 offense in the league.

let me ask you a very simple question: Tell me how many Rings would Brady have with Garret, Linehan and Moore as his coaches?

lol...how in the hell would I know the answer to that question?

Please don't compare a Brady to Dak until Dak has the same success. We don't have Brady's coaches. (was this a trick question)?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Because skill wise they aren't that far apart. I never said to spend top dollar for anyone. But we definately need to be able to get some free agents since we are losing a bunch of players on defense and we only have so many draft picks. My whole point is not spending big money on non elite players which neither of these QB's are elite.

ahhhh, skillwise they are worlds apart. I mean worlds. one is an almost has been, who never was on his last leg going towards the NFL exit door. the other a rising QB in the league, among the top 10. do I say that? no 50 front office personnel made that assessment.....but hey, maybe they should just come to you and let you tell them what to think. what we have seen first hand is what Dak did with the same team as Dalton..... proof is right in front of you. you just have to pen your eyes a tiny bit....just a tiny bit....

and I am opposed to building a team through FA. it has never worked and doesn't work. you find a piece here or there. but you build through draft and with the players you developed. to get impact players you need to spend money. a lot of money. and you aren't going to get two impact players while bringing in literally scrubs for your QB. and this defense is more than two players away from being respectable. they plain suck. we added cooper to the WR group two years ago and it transformed the offense, by providing a badly missing weapon and just rounded the offense. since then they were #1....(not counting dalton's few games).

and none of the Dak detractors have provided a viable option to Dak....lawrence, fields are out of the question. Dalton sucks. perhaps after Dalton, everyone is going to put all their money on DaNucci.....given according to many of the dak detractors anyone could run this offense and get same results.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

lol...how in the hell would I know the answer to that question?

Please don't compare a Brady to Dak until Dak has the same success. We don't have Brady's coaches. (was this a trick question)?

I am not comparing Brady to Dak....never did. Brady is the undisputed GOAT. but question stands.....

again, I asked a simple question: How many rings do you think Brady would have with those three as his headcoaches? 1? 2? 3? 4? 5? 6? 7?....

given you put the entire onus of winning games singly on the QB, as many dak detractors do, my expectations would be that you say he would have won 6.....its all about the QB....so would brady win 6 championships with Garrett at the helm? its really a simple question...but you obviously avoiding, trying to figure out an answer to spin things...

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Dak only if below 33 mil. Otherwise dalton and the draft is best for this team future. This team needs a lot and the QB is not the issue

Dalton? so you are expecting to build an all-world, all time best defense to win? that's the only chance with Dalton.....so how do we build an all world defense?

 

[starfan1]

I am not comparing Brady to Dak....never did. Brady is the undisputed GOAT. but question stands.....

again, I asked a simple question: How many rings do you think Brady would have with those three as his headcoaches? 1? 2? 3? 4? 5? 6? 7?....

given you put the entire onus of winning games singly on the QB, as many dak detractors due, my expectations would be that you say he would have won 6.....its all about the QB....so would brady win 6 championships with Garrett at the helm? its really a simple question...but you obviously avoiding, trying to figure out an answer to spin things...

The never daksters cant answer a question like that they have tunnel vision.

 

[5Stars]

I am not comparing Brady to Dak....never did. Brady is the undisputed GOAT. but question stands.....

again, I asked a simple question: How many rings do you think Brady would have with those three as his headcoaches? 1? 2? 3? 4? 5? 6? 7?....

given you put the entire onus of winning games singly on the QB, as many dak detractors due, my expectations would be that you say he would have won 6.....its all about the QB....so would brady win 6 championships with Garrett at the helm? its really a simple question...but you obviously avoiding, trying to figure out an answer to spin things...

My answer would be a resounding, No. Probably none...maybe one, I don't know.

Let me ask you a question.

Did you really expect me to answer a question that not even God can answer? Really?

 

[PAPPYDOG]

His parents and peers taught him that.

Why bring someone's parents into this debate?
It is amazing how much the mods let you Dak-lovers insult away on a daily basis.

 

[5Stars]

The never daksters cant answer a question like that they have tunnel vision.

Merry Christmas

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

My answer would be a resounding, No. Probably none...maybe one, I don't know.

and that's the point. it takes more than just the QB. a good offense. reliable above average defense, a good head coach that can make the right calls in critical times (which garrett notoriously was awful at)..... the QB can run the plays he is given...we know how awful linehan was, we know how bad garrett was at situational game management...for Gawd's sake he iced his own kicker in a game. we know moore is still very very very green and wet behind the ears....

the right coach makes a lot of difference.....a decent defense makes a lot of difference......

 

[5Stars]

and that's the point. it takes more than just the QB. a good offense. reliable above average defense, a good head coach that can make the right calls in critical times (which garrett notoriously was awful at)..... the QB can run the plays he is given...we know how awful linehan was, we know how bad garrett was at situational game management...for Gawd's sake he iced his own kicker in a game. we know moore is still very very very green and wet behind the ears....

the right coach makes a lot of difference.....a decent defense makes a lot of difference......

You're right.

Well, hound dog, as Cowboy fans, let's hope for the best and see what transpires.

 

[Wapp5200]

who would you prefer as the 2021 starting QB?

Neither

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Neither

Wapp fits you well........

 

[basel90]

Dalton? so you are expecting to build an all-world, all time best defense to win? that's the only chance with Dalton.....so how do we build an all world defense?

Draft Draft Draft , Cap space , great defense , all are useful things for any winning super bowl team . We have enough grossly overpaid players on the roster don't you agree?
. this makes it painful to also pay dak top money . This is the reality , Nothing against dak , it is jerry and FO who put this team in this situation .

 

[5Stars]

Wapp fits you well........

What does Wapp mean?

I'll shoot you a penny with a hole in it.

 

[gjkoeppen]

pay Dak the market value...not what he wants...there is a difference.

Dak has had a good offensive team around him, crappy coaching. since cooper, he has led the #1 offense in the league.

let me ask you a very simple question: Tell me how many Rings would Brady have with Garret, Linehan and Moore as his coaches?

Obviously you haven't caught on that the market value especially for QB's goes up EVERY year QB's that has won awards and set NFL records market value is higher than those that don't do those things. You need to get 2 year old market value out of your head. Oh BTW Prescott had already agreed to 35 mil but length and guaranteed money couldn't get settled.
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[gjkoeppen]

Help me understand though......you're saying they should sign him to a non exclusive tag which would require him to sign it......and then go to a team that loses its 1st and 3rd rounder for him? Which would then require us to use cap space to ship him out? AM I understanding correctly?

No you're not understanding how the non-exclusive franchise tag works. If a team offers a non-exclusive franchise tag and the player does not sign it prior to free agency starting, the player can accept an offer sheet from another team and his current team has the right to match the offer. If they don't the original team gets 2 first round picks from the other team and none of the players contract is part of the original teams cap. Now a new team can make the offer after that years draft so the 1st round picks would be the next 2 years. Just like original teams have until July 15th to sign players that have tags to a long term contract, new teams can not offer contracts to tagged player after July 15th. It doesn't matter because if the Cowboys have to tag Prescott again they will use the exclusive franchise tag again so no other team can have access to Prescott.
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[gjkoeppen]

Your pic should also have The Red Rifle is a BB gun.
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