Sports myths

[sunalsorises]

Let’s not forget the myth of Rico Gathers. They say the greatest trick Rico ever pulled was convincing the world he was a tight end.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Then there is the myth of Sean Leech. The myths that he can play, can contribute, can rehab himself and that he can coach.

 

[eromeopolk]

One of the definitions of a myth is a widely held but false belief or idea. We fans are all at least occasionally guilty of believing in sports myths- things that are based more on hope than reality for things we deeply want to believe. Sports myths often blind us as fans to sports reality.

Here are some commonly held fan sports myths we often see:

• Popular former players with no coaching experience can immediately become an offensive or defensive coordinator or even head coach. Example: Tony Romo’s good work as a TV analyst doesn’t mean he is immediately qualified to be an offensive coordinator with zero coaching experience. Being an effective coordinator in the NFL is much harder than it looks. It’s requires at least some prior coaching experience.

• “Team friendly” contracts for players we want to see stay in Dallas for less money than they could get on the market. Examples: Dak Prescott should forego what the market says a QB is worth and settle for less money to help the team. Or any other Cowboys veteran who is about to need a new contract. Thinking a player should sacrifice their market value to stay with the home team is unfair to the players whose ability to make top sports dollars is extremely brief.

• Great players can mentor or teach younger players how to be like them. Athletic greatness is very difficult to teach at this level. And great players rarely make great coaches. Many great coaches on the other hand were often not themselves among the greatest players. Probably because they had to work harder at being successful on the field, they are better at teaching that than those whose greatness was easier.

• The refs and the rest of the NFL are out to get us every week as a part of a grand conspiracy- I will just leave it at that. It still amazes me how many people believe this. Sure we get bad calls. But bad calls are pretty much “equal opportunity” in the NFL.

What are some other sports myths commonly held?

Myth - Jerry Jones built the team of the 90's.

Gil Brandt made sure they drafted Aikman, Bob Ackles worked the Plan B free agency, John Wooten made the trade for Emmitt Smith and set up the draft boards, and Jimmy Johnson worked his personnel eye and college recruiting connections to have drafts that delivered starters, Pro Bowlers, and Hall of Fame players.

Myth - Herschel Walker trade was a Jimmy Johnson idea.

Actually, it was John Wooten that wanted payback against Walker for demanding the Dorsett trade. When Jimmy Johnson got to Dallas and wanted to make trades, Wooten offered up Walker quick, fast, and in a hurry. How close was the ramifications? Before the 1990 draft that brought in Emmitt Smith by Wooten. John Wooten worked out Tony Dorsett for a return to the Cowboys. However, Wooten was able to call the Steelers and make the trade for Emmitt Smith after Dallas scout Walt Yowarsky literally lost his mind that Smith was still available and was available for the Cowboys.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

yeah I did and I apologized for my oversight

Jipper and Bobhaze are good lads.

 

[Bobhaze]

Let’s not forget the myth of Rico Gathers. They say the greatest trick Rico ever pulled was convincing the world he was a tight end.

LOL! Good one! The amazing Rico had many Cowboys fans around here already booking flights to Canton for his HOF induction 15 years ahead. He was definitely good in shorts and a T-shirt or in a preseason game against an UFA Safety from The Citadel who was never going to play a meaningful down in the NFL.

 

[kskboys]

It's the largest contract in NFL history. Maybe there's some "team friendly" structuring, but it's not like he took less than market value.

Yes and no. What he did was to set it up so they could sign Chris Jones, and possibly make other moves. There's also a good chance the money will be moved down the road after 5-6 yrs of the contract has gone by. So, it's actually quite possible he took less than market value. He certainly did the first 4-5 yrs, of that there is no doubt.

 

[ArtClink]

Sports Myth:

Jerry Jones is a good GM

The Jones family is good for the Dallas Cowboys

That's only if you are looking at the past 25 seasons as a large enough sample size lol

 

[DuncanIso]

I'd argue the team friendly contracts one. I agree it doesn't happen very often, but didn't Cooper just take less money to stick in Dallas? It looks silly now, but even the Jayon Smith contract was considered a discount for the Cowboys at the time. I would never expect a player to take a discount, but Aside from that good list though.

I think less money is offset by the higher income tax rates in other states.

Especially with Texas.

 

[Tussinman]

hate to tell you but you have no idea what you are talking about here, Dallas has actually been one of the very best at extracting value out of where they draft...it’s not all about pro bowl it’s about getting the most you can with the draft capital you have...I will say we have been very bad with free agency though...check out the article below it might help you see a different pov

My point was the myth was they’re trash. They’re actually very good at it.

It's actually not a myth.

Nobody has been saying they have been drafting bad on offense. 90% of the fan complaining about the draft is in regards to the defensive side of the ball and 2nd round selections.

Cowboys the last 10 years drafting mediocore on both defense and 2nd round is far from a myth

 

[Valkyr]

"No one wants to win more than Jerry Jones"

Except he won't do the thing that might actually help get him those wins.

 

[ArtClink]

1. There is science and a great track record behind signing a "cold weather" kicker specialist
2. Cowboys fans don't care about making deep playoff runs
3. Jerry played a role in football-related matters to create an NFL dynasty in the 90's with a little help from Jimmy Johnson
4. Jimmy Johnson hasn't accomplished enough to be added to the Ring of Honor
5. Jerry's luxury yacht has an eight track tape player in the fuhrer's private quarters
6. HOF'er Jerry Jones was an NFL trendsetter when he dedicated an entire draft to focus exclusively on special teams
7. Defensive lineman with a history of domestic violence are great teammates and are a great addition to the team (e.g., Hardy)
8. Having continuity at the GM position is good for this franchise
9. Understanding all the salary caps rules makes you a great NFL GM
10. Danny White was an average QB
11. Romo is a better QB than Danny White
12. Team chemistry doesn't matter
13. Team culture doesn't matter
14. Barry Switzer was a great NFL coach
15. Jerry is a great owner
16. Lee Harvey Oswald did not act alone
17. Cowboy fans love Jean Jones' stajum artwork
18. George Strait is a talented artist
19. Stephen Jones will be a great GM
20. Kellen Moore, with zero off-coordinator experience was the best candidate to hand over what most considered to be a Super Bowl roster two years ago

 

[kskboys]

"No one wants to win more than Jerry Jones"

Except he won't do the thing that might actually help get him those wins.

It's amazing to me that anyone is still spewing that!!!!!

 

[DuncanIso]

"No one wants to win more than Jerry Jones"

Except he won't do the thing that might actually help get him those wins.

to be fair to Jerry, he was probably talked into “firing” Jason. Remember the delay after the season?

Jerry then replaces Jason with Big Mike.

he did try .

but it was clearly a mistake. Big Mike burned the season down.

He’s 78. He wants another ring.

Other than the NHL, the NFL championship is one of the most difficult to win.

 

[kskboys]

Myth: QB's complete a high percentage of downfield passes.

This myth generally comes from watching highlights instead of watching games.

Myth: RB's always make the right cut and hit the open hole.

My gawd, people, watch some games. You're making yourself look quite silly. No RB in the history of the NFL always hits the right hole, makes the right cutback, etc...

 

[DuncanIso]

Jerry probably won’t fire big Mike.

but he should. He deserves it.

it’s a big mess to clean up.

 

[kskboys]

to be fair to Jerry, he was probably talked into “firing” Jason. Remember the delay after the season?

Jerry then replaces Jason with Big Mike.

he did try .

but it was clearly a mistake. Big Mike burned the season down.

He’s 78. He wants another ring.

Other than the NHL, the NFL championship is one of the most difficult to win.

He doesn't want a ring all that badly. If he really wanted a ring, he would not have kept himself as GM, as he has admitted himself.

 

[kskboys]

Jerry probably won’t fire big Mike.

but he should. He deserves it.

it’s a big mess to clean up.

The mess was made before Mike ever got here. I was never a fan of Mike, and that hasn't changed, but to blame this clusterfudge on him is absolutely silly. Anyone w/ the slightest observational skills could see this coming. Especially looking at Jerry's history as GM. Jerry built teams always fall apart just like this. The teams are poorly constructed, and so cannot stand even the slightest bit of adversity.


And overall, considering the injuries, I'd say Mike is doing a better job than Garrett.

 

[Captain-Crash]

the legend of rico is almost as good as the legend of stats prescott.

 

[Bobhaze]

That's only if you are looking at the past 25 seasons as a large enough sample size lol

Jerry’s sold on the idea that he’s got enough money to burn at the craps table to keep rolling the dice. He believes sooner or later his roll will happen. He believes getting to a SB is all about luck. With him in charge, that’s actually true. It’s our only hope.

 

[Diehardblues]

It's the largest contract in NFL history. Maybe there's some "team friendly" structuring, but it's not like he took less than market value.

The key is the length of the contract . 10 years. And he has 2years left on his Rookie contract which actually gives him 12 years left under contract. By the time 2023 comes around no telling what QB’s will be signing for. Watson already signed right after that for 40 million.

I’ll have to agree with Ksboys on this one. While on the surface it is the largest contract in NFL history , it’s also a team friendly deal. A win win for both basically securing him for prob rest of his career. Brilliant by the Chiefs making him a deal he couldn’t refuse while framing it as the largest ever mostly because of the length of it and incentives.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nf...ar503-million-deal-actually-works/ar-BB16pIjN