Andy Dalton is the equivalent of Steve Beuerlein

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EXACTLY not a bad group to be a part of for Mr.Plunkett!






Nobody is disputing that Plunkett won a couple of Super Bowls but 2 good seasons out of 18 does not make him a great or even a good QB for most of his career. Losing as many games as you won and having more picks than TD's is more representative of what kind of QB he was. Next thing you're going to say is Trent Dilfer was a really good QB too.
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It was 1991. A young Troy Aikman is injured in the 12th game of the season and will miss the rest of the reg season. The Cowboys at that time were in the thick of the playoff race and could ill afford losing their starting QB. When Aikman went down , the Cowboys were 7-5, fighting for a wild card spot in the playoffs. It looked somewhat bleak.

BUT...we had an excellent backup QB named Steve Beuerlein, who led the Cowboys to 4 straight wins, clinching a WC playoff spot. Even led them to a wild card playoff win against Chicago in the playoffs. The dream ended in Det though in a divisional round loss.

Believe it or not, at that juncture, some Cowboys fans were calling for Aikman to be traded and Beurlein to be named the starter in ‘92. Jimmy Johnson knew better. Beuerlein was an excellent QB in smaller doses, but not for big doses. The rest of his career, he was what time showed he was. A decent starter, who can win you some games.

Kind of like Andy Dalton.

Hey, I like Andy Dalton and I’m not in any way meaning to disrespect him. And I’m not saying Dak is Troy Aikman But Dalton’s not the future here. He’s a solid mid-level type starter that is going to make some good money next year as the starter for another team. His price tag will be too high for us to keep him as a backup and unless I’m dead wrong (which I very well could be!) I think Dak will be signed to a 4-5 year deal this offseason.

Andy Dalton is the 2020 version of Steve Beuerlein.

More like Bernie kosar in my opinion. Kosar had a long career at Cleveland making pro bowls before coming to Dallas much like Dalton did.

Beurlein had a cup of coffee as a backup for the raiders being a mid-round draft pick before coming to Dallas.
 
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I just want to win. That’s where we agree brother. I’m not a Dak worshipper. I just honestly believe he gives us a better chance to win long term.

I could certainly be wrong. All I know is you better have a better than average QB to win a championship these days. I think Dak can do that. But I understand your view. Just disagree. But hey we can certainly agree that we want the Cowboys to win some playoff games for a change.

I think Dalton is a very good quarterback and Dak is a great quarterback. Dak is no slouch passing the ball either, has an unbelievable win to win, mobility, and galvanizes the entire team. We have one of the best trio of receivers in the league and our offensive line is getting better. Run stopping is still our Achilles heel but this defense will be re-fortified next season.
 

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In England in 1991 there was a weekly NFL newspaper 'First Down' . I remember an article in that season where I think it was John Madden said at the time Beuerlein was playing so well he was better than Aikman and should keep his place in the team when Aikman returned from injury
 

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Reminds me of something I said a few days ago about in a thread about tanking for draft position. The rest of the story is Aikman came back the next year and we won back to back Super Bowls. I would be thrilled if history repeated itself.
 

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It was 1991. A young Troy Aikman is injured in the 12th game of the season and will miss the rest of the reg season. The Cowboys at that time were in the thick of the playoff race and could ill afford losing their starting QB. When Aikman went down , the Cowboys were 7-5, fighting for a wild card spot in the playoffs. It looked somewhat bleak.

BUT...we had an excellent backup QB named Steve Beuerlein, who led the Cowboys to 4 straight wins, clinching a WC playoff spot. Even led them to a wild card playoff win against Chicago in the playoffs. The dream ended in Det though in a divisional round loss.

Believe it or not, at that juncture, some Cowboys fans were calling for Aikman to be traded and Beurlein to be named the starter in ‘92. Jimmy Johnson knew better. Beuerlein was an excellent QB in smaller doses, but not for big doses. The rest of his career, he was what time showed he was. A decent starter, who can win you some games.

Kind of like Andy Dalton.

Hey, I like Andy Dalton and I’m not in any way meaning to disrespect him. And I’m not saying Dak is Troy Aikman But Dalton’s not the future here. He’s a solid mid-level type starter that is going to make some good money next year as the starter for another team. His price tag will be too high for us to keep him as a backup and unless I’m dead wrong (which I very well could be!) I think Dak will be signed to a 4-5 year deal this offseason.

Andy Dalton is the 2020 version of Steve Beuerlein.
I dont think Dalton is the answer either but what I see is Dalton a decent back up beating an Eagles team in a meaningful game that Dak couldnt do last season. Dak cant blame that loss last year on the defense either. Yeah we know Dak was banged up but we also saw Dalton beat a Vikings team that Dak failed to beat the last he played them. Im not saying Dalton should be the starter but that Dak is not performing the way he should against better teams. Considering the money he wants I dont want Jerry to sign him. I dont care what anyone says about Daks ankle is going to be fine. We saw Derek Carr look great until his ankle was broken. We saw Wentz playing lights out until is ACL was torn. You dont know how Dak is going to play after this and a big part of his game is his toughness and ability to run. I like Dak the person but think Dak the QB is very over rated by too many fans.
 

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It was 1991. A young Troy Aikman is injured in the 12th game of the season and will miss the rest of the reg season. The Cowboys at that time were in the thick of the playoff race and could ill afford losing their starting QB. When Aikman went down , the Cowboys were 7-5, fighting for a wild card spot in the playoffs. It looked somewhat bleak.

BUT...we had an excellent backup QB named Steve Beuerlein, who led the Cowboys to 4 straight wins, clinching a WC playoff spot. Even led them to a wild card playoff win against Chicago in the playoffs. The dream ended in Det though in a divisional round loss.

Believe it or not, at that juncture, some Cowboys fans were calling for Aikman to be traded and Beurlein to be named the starter in ‘92. Jimmy Johnson knew better. Beuerlein was an excellent QB in smaller doses, but not for big doses. The rest of his career, he was what time showed he was. A decent starter, who can win you some games.

Kind of like Andy Dalton.

Hey, I like Andy Dalton and I’m not in any way meaning to disrespect him. And I’m not saying Dak is Troy Aikman But Dalton’s not the future here. He’s a solid mid-level type starter that is going to make some good money next year as the starter for another team. His price tag will be too high for us to keep him as a backup and unless I’m dead wrong (which I very well could be!) I think Dak will be signed to a 4-5 year deal this offseason.

Andy Dalton is the 2020 version of Steve Beuerlein.
You hit the nail right on the head @Bobhaze !!!!
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Best post you've written all season. :bow:
 

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I dont think Dalton is the answer either but what I see is Dalton a decent back up beating an Eagles team in a meaningful game that Dak couldnt do last season. Dak cant blame that loss last year on the defense either. Yeah we know Dak was banged up but we also saw Dalton beat a Vikings team that Dak failed to beat the last he played them. Im not saying Dalton should be the starter but that Dak is not performing the way he should against better teams. Considering the money he wants I dont want Jerry to sign him. I dont care what anyone says about Daks ankle is going to be fine. We saw Derek Carr look great until his ankle was broken. We saw Wentz playing lights out until is ACL was torn. You dont know how Dak is going to play after this and a big part of his game is his toughness and ability to run. I like Dak the person but think Dak the QB is very over rated by too many fans.
:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
 

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How about some love for that young offensive line. They are by no means an elite group but they are scrappers who fought the whole game. This will definitely pay dividends next season and make that squad deeper and more experienced.
 

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It was 1991. A young Troy Aikman is injured in the 12th game of the season and will miss the rest of the reg season. The Cowboys at that time were in the thick of the playoff race and could ill afford losing their starting QB. When Aikman went down , the Cowboys were 7-5, fighting for a wild card spot in the playoffs. It looked somewhat bleak.

BUT...we had an excellent backup QB named Steve Beuerlein, who led the Cowboys to 4 straight wins, clinching a WC playoff spot. Even led them to a wild card playoff win against Chicago in the playoffs. The dream ended in Det though in a divisional round loss.

Believe it or not, at that juncture, some Cowboys fans were calling for Aikman to be traded and Beurlein to be named the starter in ‘92. Jimmy Johnson knew better. Beuerlein was an excellent QB in smaller doses, but not for big doses. The rest of his career, he was what time showed he was. A decent starter, who can win you some games.

Kind of like Andy Dalton.

Hey, I like Andy Dalton and I’m not in any way meaning to disrespect him. And I’m not saying Dak is Troy Aikman But Dalton’s not the future here. He’s a solid mid-level type starter that is going to make some good money next year as the starter for another team. His price tag will be too high for us to keep him as a backup and unless I’m dead wrong (which I very well could be!) I think Dak will be signed to a 4-5 year deal this offseason.

Andy Dalton is the 2020 version of Steve Beuerlein.
I think he’s much more.

Beuerlin had an up and coming playoff caliber team at 7-5 that would win back to back Super Bows in 1992 and 1993.

Dalton took over a team spiraling down at 1-3 and after 4 consecutive losses was 2-7. Most of us didn’t think they’d win another game. Instead they’ve won 4 of their last 6 games.

All with a defense that’s averaging giving up 30 points a game. The most in the league. Worth noting is no team in NFL history has ever made the playoffs giving up 30 points a game.

Rarely do we see backup QB’s have success unless they are a Legit starter and or have an Elite defense to carry them.
 
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I think the bigger discussion is could the Cowboys make some noise in the playoffs if this offense is beginning to run on all cylinders and a defense that can keep from giving up 30 points while forcing some turnovers.

Perhaps deserving of its own thread.
 

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It was 1991. A young Troy Aikman is injured in the 12th game of the season and will miss the rest of the reg season. The Cowboys at that time were in the thick of the playoff race and could ill afford losing their starting QB. When Aikman went down , the Cowboys were 7-5, fighting for a wild card spot in the playoffs. It looked somewhat bleak.

BUT...we had an excellent backup QB named Steve Beuerlein, who led the Cowboys to 4 straight wins, clinching a WC playoff spot. Even led them to a wild card playoff win against Chicago in the playoffs. The dream ended in Det though in a divisional round loss.

Believe it or not, at that juncture, some Cowboys fans were calling for Aikman to be traded and Beurlein to be named the starter in ‘92. Jimmy Johnson knew better. Beuerlein was an excellent QB in smaller doses, but not for big doses. The rest of his career, he was what time showed he was. A decent starter, who can win you some games.

Kind of like Andy Dalton.

Hey, I like Andy Dalton and I’m not in any way meaning to disrespect him. And I’m not saying Dak is Troy Aikman But Dalton’s not the future here. He’s a solid mid-level type starter that is going to make some good money next year as the starter for another team. His price tag will be too high for us to keep him as a backup and unless I’m dead wrong (which I very well could be!) I think Dak will be signed to a 4-5 year deal this offseason.

Andy Dalton is the 2020 version of Steve Beuerlein.
truth:hammer:

please i remind fans its ok to be fan of both Dalton and dak, they are wearing the star , its ok to be fan of Pollard and zeke, no need to choose one..why the hate on one to prop up the other when they are playing for our team and any success is great for us, is it not? stop ripping AC to prop up lamb or vice versa the hate on Gallup when he was slumping wanting him traded etc etc theres no sides they are on OUR TEAM wearing shiny helmet with the Star on it..

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How about some love for that young offensive line. They are by no means an elite group but they are scrappers who fought the whole game. This will definitely pay dividends next season and make that squad deeper and more experienced.
Great point. Terrance Steele, Brandon Knight and Connor McGovern have certainly improved and deserve kudos for their growth.
 

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One of the differences in this game seemed to be Dalton's quick release. Seemed like there was a shift after 14-3, I think. He was just getting the ball out quicker and trusting the receivers to make a play.
 

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Nobody is disputing that Plunkett won a couple of Super Bowls but 2 good seasons out of 18 does not make him a great or even a good QB for most of his career. Losing as many games as you won and having more picks than TD's is more representative of what kind of QB he was. Next thing you're going to say is Trent Dilfer was a really good QB too.
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I never said he was great.
Dalton just might be the right cap friendly QB at the right time for us.....
 

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Wrap yourself around this version as with a couple of pieces on defense were off to the big dance!

Plunkett led the Raiders to a victory in Super Bowl XVIII following the 1983 season before retiring in 1988. He is the only quarterback to start and win two Super Bowls
No, the Raiders defenses led them to victory. You seem to have this goofy notion that QB's are responsible for everything - well except when the Cowboys win a game with Dak at QB.
 
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