WFT Releases QB Haskins

[SteveTheCowboy]

I think the selfie was the first public toxin that really started the ball rolling.

Mkay.

FWIW..Imma Buckeye. I begged for all the internet was worth to do another year at tOSU. Nope....

In my mind...that was the first sign of poison. It's not like he did three or even two SOLID years at high NCAA competiveness. He just never allowed himself to mature in all the ways you need to. Even then many aren't quite ready for it. First thing Booger (the real one not the insult (so-called) fans toss at our owner) ever said I agree with.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Well exactly! Sean Lee is likely going to retire. Vander Esch has injury issues. And Jaylon Smith is Jaylon Smith. We don't have a good LB when Vander Esch is injured. We MUST fix this round 1! We're setting records in inability to stop the run! In 2020! The rules are set for passing to be successful, yet we can't stop the run! We need to fix the LB position! We also need a DT to pair with Gallimore and a strong safety. We also could use a CB. We can't really afford to draft a QB before round 3-4 this year. The only reason I say 3 is because we have 2 3rd round picks. So, we could use the second of these picks to get a QB if we choose. But, we must use the first 3 picks on defence.

Right on Fur. How many championships were made from a solid to excellent defense? Like..welll... MOST.

You HAVE to be able to stop if not destroy opposing offenses....to some degree or another. I suppose you can't really DESTROY playoff-caliber offenses. But you do have to play them toe to toe and just a little bit more.

I don't think we've totally ignored defense in previous drafts. But...we have not been adept with it. Let's line up the top 5 needs you describe and the top 20 players to fill them through the 1st three rounds.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Right on Fur. How many championships were made from a solid to excellent defense? Like..welll... MOST.

You HAVE to be able to stop if not destroy opposing offenses....to some degree or another. I suppose you can't really DESTROY playoff-caliber offenses. But you do have to play them toe to toe and just a little bit more.

I don't think we've totally ignored defense in previous drafts. But...we have not been adept with it. Let's line up the top 5 needs you describe and the top 20 players to fill them through the 1st three rounds.

Our team does not value Defense. If they did, we wouldn't have allowed Byron to leave, with no compensation what so ever. We are an Offensively driven team. Now, this could change but till I actually see it happen, till I see steps taken towards this end, I remain skeptical.

JMO

 

[reddyuta]

This is why there are no guarantees in the draft,people want to ditch Dak but there is no guarantee his replacement will be even half as good even if he was drafted n the 1st RD

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

This is why there are no guarantees in the draft,people want to ditch Dak but there is no guarantee his replacement will be even half as good even if he was drafted n the 1st RD

There is no guarantee that says he won't be better either. I mean, you can't just expect people to read only one chapter of a book. There are other options, other possible outcomes.

 

[reddyuta]

There is no guarantee that says he won't be better either. I mean, you can't just expect people to read only one chapter of a book. There are other options, other possible outcomes.

of course but do you want to take the risk? .we cut lose Dak and bust on a 1st RD QB and we are toast for years.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

of course but do you want to take the risk? .we cut lose Dak and bust on a 1st RD QB and we are toast for years.

It's not a decision made in a vacuum. If Dak would sign a 34/35 deal over 5 years, then I would be willing to sign him. If he want's 40 over 4, then no, I'm in favor of replacing him. Like it or not, cap plays a role and it has to be managed. If it's not, then it's another 10 years of rare playoff appearances, .500 football and early exits from the playoffs if we do happen to make the show.

You say "toast for years", well, what have we been thus far, for years? Using all of our resources on Offense will not get you progress. It will insure that you are toast for years.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Whether he was a reach or not doesn't matter to me. His failure had to do with him being more worried about his brand and not working hard enough or listening to instruction and tips from coaches or teammates. If you perceive a threat to your job, work harder to make it a non threat. He can't blame rivera or allen, the blame is in the mirror.

I don't pretend to know how or why he failed. I don't follow the Commanders enough. I'm on the outside looking in and from that perspective he got handled completely different than Daniel Jones did.

 

[reddyuta]

It's not a decision made in a vacuum. If Dak would sign a 34/35 deal over 5 years, then I would be willing to sign him. If he want's 40 over 4, then no, I'm in favor of replacing him. Like it or not, cap plays a role and it has to be managed. If it's not, then it's another 10 years of rare playoff appearances, .500 football and early exits from the playoffs if we do happen to make the show.

You say "toast for years", well, what have we been thus far, for years? Using all of our resources on Offense will not get you progress. It will insure that you are toast for years.

i agree with you on that.Infact paying Dak even 35 million may be too much as our D is a complete disaster with large number of FAs to boot.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

NFCE up for grabs, 15th pick last year




Update: Official... imagine a coach running the show.

is it WFT or ***...I get confused

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

i agree with you on that.Infact paying Dak even 35 million may be too much as our D is a complete disaster with large number of FAs to boot.

Yeah, it's not a personal thing for me with Dak. It's just a practical decision on how best to use our available resources. I'm not afraid of going out and drafting a QB. I think it's easier now then it used to be but even still, I think you do have to have one. You can't win without a QB but the same can be said for a Defense IMO. Gotta manage that cap.

 

[HanD]

I don't pretend to know how or why he failed. I don't follow the Commanders enough. I'm on the outside looking in and from that perspective he got handled completely different than Daniel Jones did.

And that was because the owner forced the pick on 2 different coaches. That's neither here nor there. If you work hard, take instruction and prepare like a professional so that you are at your best, even if the current coach has it in for you, you are auditioning for your next team. Players don't all end up being handled the same or put in the same position to succeed on teams or across the nfl. It isn't fair but it's like life, you work through it best you can no matter the circumstances instead of blaming others. Some choose to sympathize, I personally don't.

He's performed poorly. Rivera was going to cut him after the stripper incident which was dumb and selfish, and was talked out of it so the team could have a better shot at winning the division yesterday. He was outplayed by someone who was on the practice squad. There was no reason to keep him.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

And that was because the owner forced the pick on 2 different coaches. That's neither here nor there. If you work hard, take instruction and prepare like a professional so that you are at your best, even if the current coach has it in for you, you are auditioning for your next team. Players don't all end up being handled the same or put in the same position to succeed on teams or across the nfl. It isn't fair but it's like life, you work through it best you can no matter the circumstances instead of blaming others. Some choose to sympathize, I personally don't.

He's performed poorly. Rivera was going to cut him after the stripper incident which was dumb and selfish, and was talked out of it so the team could have a better shot at winning the division yesterday. He was outplayed by someone who was on the practice squad. There was no reason to keep him.

Rivera knew who his quarterback was when he got there. I don't think he got blindsided by Haskins.....

 

[Dre11]

If a coaching staff and front office actually get behind the kid he could be decent. He had a great last quarter of the season before rivera came in and never once supported the 23 year old.

that's BS , I live here in Washington, actually coach against Haskins in HS, but the kid didn't take it serious which is especially a no no for a qb, he was late for meetings and most times the first one to leave. Ron gave him every opportunity to prove himself, even made him a captain. always supported him in the media. he had the selfie incident, the many self indulging tweets, he responded to almost every critic on social media, this year after a 20 point loss to Ravens, he bragged in the locker room about his 300 yard game. the list goes on. he did it to himself

 

[Dre11]

Damn that's crazy. He got screwed over with that organization though. The way Giants treated Daniel Jones and how they read him to start this season..was just night and day.

he did not, Daniel Jones was a 4 year starter, who was much further along in his development than Haskins, Jones came in and kept quiet Haskins didn't. The owner also forced the pick, when the football people didnt think he was the guy,
He made the comment the league done messed up and then came in pouted.

 

[Dre11]

Rivera knew who his quarterback was when he got there. I don't think he got blindsided by Haskins.....

he didnt know the issues the kid had

 

[OmerV]

Damn! I wanted him to retire a Commander.

Well, he could quit now and retire as a Washington Football Team player

 

[FiveSuperBowls]

Haskins clears waivers

 

[Hennessy_King]

that's BS , I live here in Washington, actually coach against Haskins in HS, but the kid didn't take it serious which is especially a no no for a qb, he was late for meetings and most times the first one to leave. Ron gave him every opportunity to prove himself, even made him a captain. always supported him in the media. he had the selfie incident, the many self indulging tweets, he responded to almost every critic on social media, this year after a 20 point loss to Ravens, he bragged in the locker room about his 300 yard game. the list goes on. he did it to himself

while i think the kid def did not help himself. i listen to rivera every week on nfl radio on xm. he was not backing this kid all the reports from january through march were not supportive and then he traded for kyle allen. Exactly you coached. You know a coaches' ego. Rivera thought he found a diamond in the rough with allen and wanted to be right.

 

[HanD]

Rivera knew who his quarterback was when he got there. I don't think he got blindsided by Haskins.....

Haskins has been the same player both years there from reports. He needs to put more work in.