Improvement starts when you accept what you are

Bobhaze

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When your favorite team is bad, and you watch them play every week, you get used to seeing bad players making bad plays. When occasionally, a few of those players make some good plays, many of us get suckered into thinking, “Hey that guy is pretty good.” Compared to what?

When your favorite team only makes the playoffs 7 of the last 21 seasons, the bar gets lowered. We are so starved to see something good, I think sometimes we see “good” in players that in reality aren’t as good as we would love to think.

That in a nutshell is one of the biggest problems with this entire organization. This FO vastly overrates its talent, while also vastly overrating their own abilities to right this organization’s 25 year drift to consistent playoff irrelevance. Let’s face it, 30 other owners would have fired this GM and his children long ago.

What I hope is Mike McCarthy (or someone JJ listens to) has the stones to tell his bosses a series of truths that need to be addressed:
  • This roster needs a major overhaul to be competitive for something more than mediocrity. We cannot sit pat. We must accept who we are: A below average football team.
  • We need at least 7 new starters on defense. Keepers: DLaw, Gregory, Diggs, and maybe LVE although he’s so fragile, he’s probably worth considering a replacement.
  • We need help on offense too. We may need a LT sooner than many want to believe.
  • This isn’t just a talent problem. It’s a culture problem.
  • This culture is diseased. There is a lack of focus and commitment from top to bottom. It’s been there for far too long. These players need to be challenged to show something more or we will keep getting what we’re getting.
We all want this team to improve and start competing. But this team needs a butt kicker in the locker room to start expecting more. Maybe have a Jimmy J training camp again complete with an asthma field.

And finally- like any organization that has 33% rate of even qualifying to compete for a championship, you won’t get better until you look in the mirror and admit your team sucks and you’re sick of losing and everything that contributes to it. Currently I don’t get the feeling from enough people at the Star to make a difference yet. Until enough people get sick of this repeated failure, expect the same.
 

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Thread title says it all. Jerry and Stephen are unable to accept what they are because they get emotionally-invested in "their" guys.

It's why you need an employee making personnel decisions. He won't get emotional because his job is on the line, unlike Jerry and Stephen who have jobs for life.
 

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When your favorite team is bad, and you watch them play every week, you get used to seeing bad players making bad plays. When occasionally, a few of those players make some good plays, many of us get suckered into thinking, “Hey that guy is pretty good.” Compared to what?

When your favorite team only makes the playoffs 7 of the last 21 seasons, the bar gets lowered. We are so starved to see something good, I think sometimes we see “good” in players that in reality aren’t as good as we would love to think. In fact,

That in a nutshell is one of the biggest problems with this entire organization. This FO vastly overrates its talent, while also vastly overrating their own abilities to right this organization’s 25 year drift to consistent playoff irrelevance. Let’s face it, 30 other owners would have fired this GM and his children long ago.

What I hope is Mike McCarthy (or someone JJ listens to) has the stones to tell his bosses a series of truths that need to be addressed:
  • This roster needs a major overhaul to be competitive for something more than mediocrity. We cannot sit pat. We must accept who we are: A below average football team.
  • We need at least 7 new starters on defense. Keepers: DLaw, Gregory, Diggs, and maybe LVE although he’s so fragile, he’s probably worth considering a replacement.
  • We need help on offense too. We may need a LT sooner than many want to believe.
  • This isn’t just a talent problem. It’s a culture problem.
  • This culture is diseased. There is a lack of focus and commitment from top to bottom. It’s been there for far too long. These players need to be challenged to show something more or we will keep getting what we’re getting.
We all want this team to improve and start competing. But this team needs a butt kicker in the locker room to start expecting more. Maybe have a Jimmy J training camp again complete with an asthma field.

And finally- like any organization that has 33% rate of even qualifying to compete for a championship, you won’t get better until you look in the mirror and admit your team sucks and you’re sick of losing and everything that contributes to it. Currently I don’t get the feeling from enough people at the Star to make a difference yet. Until enough people get sick of this repeated failure, expect the same.


That’s just a depressing post-I am done with the board for the night-that just took all my air out!
 

Keithfansince5

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When your favorite team is bad, and you watch them play every week, you get used to seeing bad players making bad plays. When occasionally, a few of those players make some good plays, many of us get suckered into thinking, “Hey that guy is pretty good.” Compared to what?

When your favorite team only makes the playoffs 7 of the last 21 seasons, the bar gets lowered. We are so starved to see something good, I think sometimes we see “good” in players that in reality aren’t as good as we would love to think. In fact,

That in a nutshell is one of the biggest problems with this entire organization. This FO vastly overrates its talent, while also vastly overrating their own abilities to right this organization’s 25 year drift to consistent playoff irrelevance. Let’s face it, 30 other owners would have fired this GM and his children long ago.

What I hope is Mike McCarthy (or someone JJ listens to) has the stones to tell his bosses a series of truths that need to be addressed:
  • This roster needs a major overhaul to be competitive for something more than mediocrity. We cannot sit pat. We must accept who we are: A below average football team.
  • We need at least 7 new starters on defense. Keepers: DLaw, Gregory, Diggs, and maybe LVE although he’s so fragile, he’s probably worth considering a replacement.
  • We need help on offense too. We may need a LT sooner than many want to believe.
  • This isn’t just a talent problem. It’s a culture problem.
  • This culture is diseased. There is a lack of focus and commitment from top to bottom. It’s been there for far too long. These players need to be challenged to show something more or we will keep getting what we’re getting.
We all want this team to improve and start competing. But this team needs a butt kicker in the locker room to start expecting more. Maybe have a Jimmy J training camp again complete with an asthma field.

And finally- like any organization that has 33% rate of even qualifying to compete for a championship, you won’t get better until you look in the mirror and admit your team sucks and you’re sick of losing and everything that contributes to it. Currently I don’t get the feeling from enough people at the Star to make a difference yet. Until enough people get sick of this repeated failure, expect the same.
I agree Bob. But until the financials of the Jones clan gets impacted by fans who simply don't care anymore and his TV ratings go down, his merchandise sales go down etc, he won't change. In reality Jerry sells entertainment not victories. He does a great job of selling entertainment.

We may never see another truly great Dallas Cowboy team again......
 

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Same ole same ole. You’d think more fans would be more apathetic. It is what it is.

Maybe 25 years hasn’t been long enough. Perhaps 35 , 40 years with a 90+ year old Jethro will bring fans to finally force change.
 
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Absolutely correct...,,and most of us know it’s not going to change.

Fool me once, shame on you
Fool me twice, shame on me
Fool us 27 years in a row, shame on The Cowboys organization and fans.
 

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Same ole same ole. You’d think more fans would be more apathetic. It is what it is.

Maybe 25 years hasn’t been long enough. Perhaps 35 , 40 years with a 90+ year old Jethro will bring fans to finally force change.
I finally realized a few years ago that Jerry is like a drunk rich guy sitting at the craps table in Vegas with unlimited cash. He doesn’t care how many times he loses- he’s going to keep rolling and rolling and rolling thinking sooner or later he will roll boxcars. That’s how he thinks.
 

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Absolutely correct...,,and most of us know it’s not going to change.

Fool me once, shame on you
Fool me twice, shame on me
Fool us 27 years in a row, shame on The Cowboys organization and fans.
Well, at some point if we continue supporting his product making it the most popular and profitable without better results then we become the fools.

But I’ve been preaching this for a couple decades to no avail. And been bashed for it by other fans.
 

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I finally realized a few years ago that Jerry is like a drunk rich guy sitting at the craps table in Vegas with unlimited cash. He doesn’t care how many times he loses- he’s going to keep rolling and rolling and rolling thinking sooner or later he will roll boxcars. That’s how he thinks.

Even Jerry has to realize the simple truth, he's running out of time.
 

TequilaCowboy

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"My name is Jerry Jones and i am an alcoholic."
"My name is Stephen Jones and i am an silver spoon idiot"
"My name is Mike McCarthy and i am a bed head coach"
 

LucaBrasi

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I can’t see any path to a championship with the 2 bozos at the top.

Yet, next fall I’ll watch every game like an idiot
 

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Accepting mistakes and moving on is a huge step.

They’ve missed a lot on defensive drafts. We all see it.

The last 5-6 defensive drafts are very sparse.

Instead of pretending they are the smartest football men in the room and doubling down on mistakes, they need to cut bait as soon as it’s obvious that something’s gone awry.

Too many times, the Joneses have stuck with bad coaches (Campo, Kiffen, Linehan, Garrett, etc.) or underperforming players (Jaylon, M Claiborne, T Crawford, etc.).

I understand that there are cap consequences when releasing a player, but I maintain that letting a poor player go, regardless of salary, keeps other players on their toes, outweighing the cap hit. It’s beyond time to get rid of the country club attitude.

IMO, a great start would be releasing Jerry’s pet, Jaylon, go. A.) it would be a smart football move, and B.) it’d send shockwaves through the locker room.

Fear of losing your job is a great motivator, and it’d be great to see a fiery Cowboys team again.
 

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I finally realized a few years ago that Jerry is like a drunk rich guy sitting at the craps table in Vegas with unlimited cash. He doesn’t care how many times he loses- he’s going to keep rolling and rolling and rolling thinking sooner or later he will roll boxcars. That’s how he thinks.
I’m not sure he even cares anymore. Certainly not enough to get out of the way. And why should he. We certainly aren’t forcing him to change.

Cowboy fans have a funny way of showing their displeasure with his product. I’d argue we are sending him the wrong message.
 

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After 25 years of futility, we know the problem.
I am officially emotionally done with the Cowboys. I will still be a fan, but I'm just not going to get emotionally invested in this team any more until there's a dramatic and drastic change at the top.
 
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