Twitter: Get Jaylon Smith Off This Team

[CalPolyTechnique]

Gee what your assessment is and what facts are don't match. Let me say I've never been a big Smith fan and I thought the Cowboys wasted a 2nd round pick on a player with his injury, but this season, Smith ended up at THIRD in the entire league on tackles. That makes me think that at least this season Smith was in the right place more often than not.
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Once again, pointing to tackle totals is the litmus test for basic intelligence on this forum, lool.

So, we can mark down kaiser, gjkoeppen, anyone else?

 

[MaineBoy]

What mess exactly. And maybe so but it's the same moron that owned the triplets amd 3 SBs

You must be new here...or new to football. Jimmy Johnson is responsible for the triplets and 3 SBs. Moron Jerry just signed the paychecks. Look at what moron Jerry has done without Jimmy the last 26 years.

 

[gjkoeppen]

Once again, pointing to tackle totals is the litmus test for basic intelligence on this forum, lool.

So, we can mark down kaiser, gjkoeppen, anyone else?

Here's a couple of questions for you. If stats were as unimportant as you say they are, then why do so many sites, including the NFL's own site, keep compiling them? If Smith was as bad as some say he was this season just how did he manage to have the 3rd most tackles of anyone in the league? If he was always in the wrong place or the play passed him by, just how did he get all those tackles? The people that completely blow off stats want everyone to think that their eye test is so accurate and infallible and there is zero bias involved. That's why stats say more than all the wannabe coaches and analysts.
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[MyFairLady]

Jaylon is terrible. 100% and without question he is terrible.

 

[INCowboysFan]

Okay, fair... but are any of those positions the highest paid player in the league at their position? Can you think of a handful of plays that Smith made that were "special" or reflective of a guy who's the highest paid player at his position?

Just for fun, I Youtubed "Jaylon Smith Highlights 2020", I'm not finding any highlights"... maybe I'm missing something?

Jaylon isn't even close to the highest paid LB in the league. His base salary ranked #8 among ILB this year. Oh, and look who is at #1...Myles Jack. If we had paid Jack, he'd likely be getting ripped to shreds right now.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/base/inside-linebacker/

 

[bigE79]

Yea. Sean Lee has never been criticized for staying injured...nor LVE. 80% of the team has immutable characteristics and have received lucrative extensions. The fact the players arent good is not their fault, though, it was the person evaluating and paying them

If you think Lee hasn't been criticized,you're on the wrong forum,also has took pay cuts and made team friendly deals with injury stipulations to help cover the team...he is one of only a few on the roster that actually gives a **** and Imo,he still is the best lb we have and should have been calling the defense instead of spazman smith...the mistake the made with Lee is they put him back at MLB when the should have left him a weak side.

 

[Tass]

Removing him would instantly improve our d

I honestly think that one of our backup, special teams linebackers would do better.

It would be IMPOSSIBLE for them to do worse.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Here's a couple of questions for you. If stats were as unimportant as you say they are, then why do so many sites, including the NFL's own site, keep compiling them? If Smith was as bad as some say he was this season just how did he manage to have the 3rd most tackles of anyone in the league? If he was always in the wrong place or the play passed him by, just how did he get all those tackles? The people that completely blow off stats want everyone to think that their eye test is so accurate and infallible and there is zero bias involved. That's why stats say more than all the wannabe coaches and analysts.

"If stats were as unimportant as you say there are, then why do so many sites, including the NFL's own site, keep compiling them?"

First, you've misrepresented what I said completely. Statistics are fine when looked at in context. What I'm pointing out is that of all the defensive statistics to look at "tackle" totals are the absolute worst because they are devoid of context (just as passing yard totals are for QBs) and subjective.
The farce of tackling: Why is such a fundamental stat so elusive? (si.com)
https://www.si.com/nfl/2015/09/18/nfl-tackling-history-stat-leaders-lavonte-david

Do Tackle Statistics Matter?
https://www.sports-central.org/sports/2018/03/06/do_tackle_statistics_matter.php

The NFL's Make-Believe Stat (wsj.com)
https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10000872396390444897304578044610803692432

Second, Jaylon played more defensive snaps than any other of the Cowboys defenders and he plays linebacker. Linebacker in any defensive scheme is going to be the position that racks up tackles by nature of what they do.

 

[Fredbeard]

I doubt that jaylon will be cut this offseason but I hope the cowboys draft a lb who will eventually take over jaylon's starting role until the cowboys can afford to cut him without a cap hit. Jaylon has become another one of Jerry's adopted sons . Reason # 568,997, 245
The cowboys need a real gm.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Besides the terrible play, the worst thing is he's seen as a leader on this team. What a terrible influence on the others. He just perpetuates the idea that this team is about flash, dash, "brand", cliches, fame, and big contracts, not winning. And young players see him as a huge success because of it.

 

[FaSho]

Jaylon HAS to go... he's terrible.

But I don't remember anyone complaining when he got his contract. Truth is, he looked good at one point. All you people talking crap about his contract are the same ones who applauded it when it happened. Same thing happened with Crawford.

 

[GMO415]

We all know why Jerry picked Jaylon.... publicity.

 

[gjkoeppen]

"If stats were as unimportant as you say there are, then why do so many sites, including the NFL's own site, keep compiling them?"

First, you've misrepresented what I said completely. Statistics are fine when looked at in context. What I'm pointing out is that of all the defensive statistics to look at "tackle" totals are the absolute worst because they are devoid of context (just as passing yard totals are for QBs) and subjective.
The farce of tackling: Why is such a fundamental stat so elusive? (si.com)
https://www.si.com/nfl/2015/09/18/nfl-tackling-history-stat-leaders-lavonte-david

Do Tackle Statistics Matter?
https://www.sports-central.org/sports/2018/03/06/do_tackle_statistics_matter.php

The NFL's Make-Believe Stat (wsj.com)
https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10000872396390444897304578044610803692432

Second, Jaylon played more defensive snaps than any other of the Cowboys defenders and he plays linebacker. Linebacker in any defensive scheme is going to be the position that racks up tackles by nature of what they do.

Yes linebackers get more tackles and I'll bet there are people that say there are several linebackers that better that Smith yet he still had only two of them that had more.

Your links are bad at best. The first one starts off trying compare tackling in the NFL to Neolithic men, the 2nd doesn't acknowledge that tackles are keep in both solo and assisted and then have a total of both and the 3rd is from someone who isn't even in the sporting world, from the Wall Street Journal.

How much more context is needed. An opposing team's player has the ball and someone tackles him. Try again!\
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[CalPolyTechnique]

Yes linebackers get more tackles and I'll bet there are people that say there are several linebackers that better that Smith yet he still had only two of them that had more.

Your links are bad at best. The first one starts off trying compare tackling in the NFL to Neolithic men, the 2nd doesn't acknowledge that tackles are keep in both solo and assisted and then have a total of both and the 3rd is from someone who isn't even in the sporting world, from the Wall Street Journal.

How much more context is needed. An opposing team's player has the ball and someone tackles him. Try again!\
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Lool, smh.

What a completely inept reply.

I’ll see you on your “well if Trevor Lawrence is so good then why didn’t he win the Heisman thread.”

 

[gjkoeppen]

Lool, smh.

What a completely inept reply.

I’ll see you on your “well if Trevor Lawrence is so good then why didn’t he win the Heisman thread.”

again I didn't say that. What I've said is with all the proclamations on Lawrence and all the talk about him from that you would think he had a total and complete lock on the Heisman, but he didn't get it.
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[MyFairLady]

An interesting exercise is to go to espn stats and check the tackle leaders for each season going back a few years.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

again I didn't say that. What I've said is with all the proclamations on Lawrence and all the talk about him from that you would think he had a total and complete lock on the Heisman, but he didn't get it.
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The NFL draft and the Heisman have absolutely nothing to do with each other.

You keep sidestepping the obvious point people are bringing up by naming past Heisman winners that were absolute NFL flops because it undermines your point.

 

[Mannix]

------The NFL draft and the Heisman have absolutely nothing to do with each other.

Agreed....nor does the winner of it guarantee success in the NFL. I still think Chuck Long got robbed, but he was a total joke for the Lions.

 

[stilltheguru]

Besides the terrible play, the worst thing is he's seen as a leader on this team. What a terrible influence on the others. He just perpetuates the idea that this team is about flash, dash, "brand", cliches, fame, and big contracts, not winning. And young players see him as a huge success because of it.

Thats the biggest issue which is why we better sign a vet safety that actually makes money and a veteran dt to take the C from Jaylon

 

[gjkoeppen]

The NFL draft and the Heisman have absolutely nothing to do with each other.

You keep sidestepping the obvious point people are bringing up by naming past Heisman winners that were absolute NFL flops because it undermines your point.

You are wrong and I'm not sure if you actually read my comments and have a comprehension problem or you just made an assumption but in NONE of my comments did I name any Heisman winner and said he was a flop or bust. I have commented on college players who the sporting world just raved about that turned out to be busts like Ryan Leaf. I suggest you go back and read my comments again..
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