News: Deciding what to do with Zeke. a fair assessment

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At his pay, he should not need JACK to be focused and have drive. The man is an adult and paid to do a job....he shouldn't need to be handheld to do it.

This is not a Zeke problem, this is a team and culture problem

this team has no leaders all followers

everyone including the so called ‘leader’ QB is all about money. Once they get paid they sit back and enjoy. Just look at everyone who had got paid. Dak will be exactly the same.

this is why I wanted Urban Meyer last year. Someone with real power who would change the culture but it didn’t happen

this ain’t changing
 

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This is not a Zeke problem, this is a team and culture problem

this team has no leaders all followers

everyone including the so called ‘leader’ QB is all about money. Once they get paid they sit back and enjoy. Just look at everyone who had got paid. Dak will be exactly the same.

this is why I wanted Urban Meyer last year. Someone with real power who would change the culture but it didn’t happen

this ain’t changing

That may be, but it also is a Zeke problem, because he allows it to be. The dude held out TWO years before his contract was due to end... Now I agree there is a culture and team problem, and that problem is Jerry, who isn't going anywhere. Just because Jerry is a problem doesn't mean Zeke's lack of will isn't one.
 

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That may be, but it also is a Zeke problem, because he allows it to be. The dude held out TWO years before his contract was due to end... Now I agree there is a culture and team problem, and that problem is Jerry, who isn't going anywhere. Just because Jerry is a problem doesn't mean Zeke's lack of will isn't one.

Yes Zeke is immature and is responsible

My point was that he is still talented and can produce under the right culture and coaching unlike someone like Jaylon who is complete trash

we will never get enough for Zeke to justify trading him
 

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Yes Zeke is immature and is responsible

My point was that he is still talented and can produce under the right culture and coaching unlike someone like Jaylon who is complete trash

we will never get enough for Zeke to justify trading him


That he came into the 2020 season like he did, unfit and unfocused at his level of pay speaks enough about his character. If the Cowboys could manage to trade him for a second and dump that huge contract when the team has all the weapons that it does and can get a decent back with that second at a fraction of his price, I say do it....but there's no team that dumb. We're stuck with Zeke.
 

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I know a lot are down on a lot of players on this team and that's the impact of having back to back bad seasons. Zeke's lack of production this season was a huge compontent of oline injuries and frankly an unmotivated Zeke after Dak went down. He's got to train harder this offseason, but I would bet on a remotivated and more productive Zeke in 2021.

I'm in on keeping him.
 

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Zeke still has utility and can be productive with improved blocking. That said, his role on this team needs to be reimagined. He needs to be splitting carries in a more significant way with Pollard and involved less in the passing game. He's still a productive short yardage and goal line player.
 

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This crap is ridiculous, Zeke is still the best RB in the league. If you have an OL that is inadequate then you get less from the running game, but Zeke still almost gave us a 1000 yard season. when you have even a great line and it cannot win the line of scrimmage you get the results that henry gave you in the titans loss to the ravens.
Let the Zeke crap go, he is still a number one RB, legit
:lmao::lmao2: Based on the last PFF O line rankings, there were RB’s that played behind worse O lines and/or ones ranked very closely to the Cowboys, and they had much better stats than zeke.

Give it up, no other RB’s got the O line excuse when zeke won his worthless rushing titles. I kept hearing from people like you that the O line was irrelevant and that zeke could be just as successful behind any O line, that’s why Jerry paid him so much and that’s why he was one of the best.

NOW, the O line is suddenly a justifiable excuse, how convenient. Time to put the ewok out to pasture.
 

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You guys crack me up

Zeke is still the same and Uber talented. He just lacks the focus and drive at this time

he needs a coach that can bring it out of him
If that’s true, then he’s even more pathetic then I thought and “uber talented” hasn’t been applicable to zeke since 2016.
 

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:lmao::lmao2: Based on the last PFF O line rankings, there were RB’s that played behind worse O lines and/or ones ranked very closely to the Cowboys, and they had much better stats than zeke.

Give it up, no other RB’s got the O line excuse when zeke won his worthless rushing titles. I kept hearing from people like you that the O line was irrelevant and that zeke could be just as successful behind any O line, that’s why Jerry paid him so much and that’s why he was one of the best.

NOW, the O line is suddenly a justifiable excuse, how convenient. Time to put the ewok out to pasture.
As I understand the argument, Zeke needs a lot of help around him to be successful. This is used in defense of Zeke. However, Dak needing help is used as a critique. Things that make you go hmmm?
 
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Zeke still has utility and can be productive with improved blocking. That said, his role on this team needs to be reimagined. He needs to be splitting carries in a more significant way with Pollard and involved less in the passing game. He's still a productive short yardage and goal line player.
In other words he’s a decent fullback which can be had for a fraction of the price.
 

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This crap is ridiculous, Zeke is still the best RB in the league. If you have an OL that is inadequate then you get less from the running game, but Zeke still almost gave us a 1000 yard season. when you have even a great line and it cannot win the line of scrimmage you get the results that henry gave you in the titans loss to the ravens.
Let the Zeke crap go, he is still a number one RB, legit
i wouldn't say best but still top5 and you are correct , fans keep dismissing the obvious, bad OL run blocking all year, playing from behind ie abandons the run, and OC who uses zeke like a FB ie no creative run scheming AT ALL!.add that up top it off with zeke having some nagging injuries =still close to 1k id say he will be fine..
 

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My fair assessment on Zeke: see what Urban Meyer will offer in a trade. I doubt Meyer would be willing to give up more than a 3rd or 4th. That shows you Zeke's value.

Zeke the best RB in the league? :lmao2:Henry doubled his output. Put Zeke on the Titans and he probably gains 1200 yards whereas Henry got 2000.
 

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Don't be so quick to dismiss Zeke. I looked up the stats for the Eagles game and he gained 105 yards rushing averaging 5.53 yards per attempt on 19 carries and 34 yards receiving averaging 8.8 yards per catch. Pollard is a pretty good back but with the same OL and against the same defense he gained 12 yards on 9 attempts averaging 1.33 yards per attempt.
 

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As I understand the argument, Zeke needs a lot of help around him to be successful. This is used in defense of Zeke. However, Dak needing help is used as a critique. Things that make you go hmmm?

not really

they are BOTH critiques

the difference is that Zeke is not asking for 40 million/year which will hamstring the entire team for 4-5 years
 

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Restructuring him to kick cap hits into the future? LOL. Seems smart.
I can’t imagine any logic behind that thought
I get your sarcasm lol
But Jerry has to see that’s a dumb idea
If you want extra cap do it with Dlaw not zeke
The bell cow RB is no longer needed
It’s great to have one but the teams still playing football aren’t built around a single RB
 

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not really

they are BOTH critiques

the difference is that Zeke is not asking for 40 million/year which will hamstring the entire team for 4-5 years
Yes, Zeke was only asking to be the highest paid at his position 2 years early despite peaking in his rookie year. And the critique on Dak was around even when he was making peanuts on his rookie deal.
 

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The problem this year was the OL
Are we first pass team?, we need a new rb strategy
 

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Don't be so quick to dismiss Zeke. I looked up the stats for the Eagles game and he gained 105 yards rushing averaging 5.53 yards per attempt on 19 carries and 34 yards receiving averaging 8.8 yards per catch. Pollard is a pretty good back but with the same OL and against the same defense he gained 12 yards on 9 attempts averaging 1.33 yards per attempt.
Cherry pick much? I can point out games where Pollard had a better ypc average than zeke, does that make him better?

Now he’s getting credit for having one or two good games?! Lol.
 

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not really

they are BOTH critiques

the difference is that Zeke is not asking for 40 million/year which will hamstring the entire team for 4-5 years
But zeke did hamstring the team by sitting out with 2 years left on his contract until he was paid as the highest for his position.

RB is the most expendable position on the field and whether it’s 40 mil a year for Dak or 50 mil guaranteed for zeke (Henry got 25 mil guaranteed) it still hurt the tram because they overpaid for the position and did it because the cry baby diva refused to show up to training camp until he got what he wanted.
 

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Yes, Zeke was only asking to be the highest paid at his position 2 years early despite peaking in his rookie year. And the critique on Dak was around even when he was making peanuts on his rookie deal.

you asked why only poor Dak is “critiqued”
I showed you you were wrong
Now go cry somewhere else, this is CowboysZone not DakZone
 
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