Some FAs Dan Quinn may be interested in bringing to Dallas

[Gaede]

Sign me up for Sherman and Kazee. The latter might not be healthy, but worth a shot

 

[Cowboyny]

New Cowboys defensive coordinator Dan Quinn has a reputation as a guy players like playing for. He’s energetic and approachable and based on some recent history, enjoys a level of loyalty from former players.

Question: Will Dan Quinn be interested in recruiting some defensive free agents to Dallas that are both impactful and at a price Stephen Jones won’t balk at? Here are some possibilities based on Quinn’s time both in Atlanta and Seattle:

• Safety Damontae Kazee- 27 year old S who had 8 Int’s in 2018 for Atlanta. He was a 5th round pick in 2017 and started most of his time in Atl. Unfortunately, he had an Achilles injury that ended his season in Oct of last year. If healthy, Kazee is an upgrade for sure from Xavier Woods.

• CB Richard Sherman- 33 year old former All Pro who starred for Quinn in the “Legion of Boom” days in Sea. I’m not normally a big fan of signing FAs who are on the tail end of their careers, but Sherman is a guy who can be a locker room leader and have a positive impact on the culture. He’s not as good as he once was but he’s still better than most of what we have. He’s probably a future HOFer. If his price is right, I would be interested.
  
  
• Safety Keanu Neal- 25 year old former 1st round pick in Atl. The Falcons exercised their 5th year option on him last year. He is an outstanding tackler but not as much of a ball hawk. Avg speed but hits like a freight train. Had a torn ACL in 2019 but did return in 2020. Probably a more refined Donovan Lewis type, so we may not be interested for that reason.
  
  
• DE Charles Harris- 26 year old former 1st round pick of the dolphins, Harris was traded to the Falcons in 2020 as an edge rusher. Had 3 sacks last year in 13 games, but has certainly underachieved for a 1st rounder. He does have talent though. Not that intriguing to me though.
  
  
• CB Shaquill Griffin- 25, has played hist first 4 yrs in Sea. Never played for Quinn in Sea but comes from a familiar system. Griffin was a 3rd round pick in 2017. He made the ProBowl in 2019 and has 6 INTs in 4 years. I would be very interested in this guy in free agency.

Who knows if any of these guys will end up here but it is certainly a possibility the way free agency usually goes. Many FAs like to play for coaches they know and in systems they have had success with. We might see a couple of them land here.

Forget about Griffen, he is going to command big money. The other 4 are very much in play. Kazee is interesting, not only can he play safety, but also the slot. Crazy ball production in both college/nfl.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Forget about Griffen, he is going to command big money. The other 4 are very much in play. Kazee is interesting, not only can he play safety, but also the slot. Crazy ball production in both college/nfl.

Yeah if Seahawks let Griffen go.....its going to be because of too much money. And quite frankly, I think I'd rather re-sign Chido for a cheaper deal than to get Griffen on a big deal.

 

[blueblood70]

Whoa....hold your horses big fella. Maybe you misunderstood my post? I never said he failed because of his scheme. I said he failed because he wasn't a fit. You're saying he failed because he didn't have ex-players here. I'm saying he would've failed even with ex-players here. There was absolutely no way this was going to work with no offseason, no personnel fits and possibly even lack of talent. If that makes me a "sheep" then go for it. I could careless. You know it is possible to disagree without resorting to such tactics as name calling. That's a cheap and lazy approach.

sheep not name calling its standard name for follower of all things popular..not much different than narrative..

i think Nolan was still scape goat and with this offseason and more of his style players had as much of shot DQ would have..all im saying..he was fired to appease the fan base as the Fo needed to give fans something as an excuse for losing and more of it was Injuries then anything else..

case in fact, SF was in the SB the season before and had pretty much the same staff and players , what happened they failed as hard as we did..we actually beat them LOL Injuries' like what was seen in dallas and SF and to an extent Philly will derail most teams no matter the coaches..

need another example BB in NE..hmm what happened there? yup opt out injurers and a backup qb basically ..sound familiar? yup lack of talent leads to losses

 

[Cowboyny]

Yeah if Seahawks let Griffen go.....its going to be because of too much money. And quite frankly, I think I'd rather re-sign Chido for a cheaper deal than to get Griffen on a big deal.

I think Sherman is legitimately in play if the price is right. I think the front office allows both Awuzie/Lewis to leave and signs a veteran like Dennard who played with the Falcons last year. Really believe they are zeroing in on taking a CB in rd 1.

 

[Sandyf]

The list is a start so IMO:
Safety Damontae Kazee - a FS that is better than what we have although could see Dallas take a chance on Malik Hooker from the Colts also either should be around $2 million for one year

CB Richard Sherman - understand the want here but not sure I would pay him what he thinks he deserves. Wants $14 million a year so the rumors say.

Safety Keanu Neal - definitely a SS in Quinn scheme and if reasonable would take a chance although I do like Wilson, Neal probably cost around $5 million a year for 3 years

DE Charles Harris - if we don't resign Aldon Smith then Harris makes some sense, just get the feeling that we won't do anything in free agency on DE

CB Shaquill Griffin - good player although probably far more expense than we will go, probably wants $10 million a year

Justin Simmons FS - if we are going to spend big in free agency, this would be my guy to get and probably cost five years, $85 million ($17M APY): $42 million total guaranteed, $25 million fully guaranteed at signing.

Leonard Williams DT - another guy I wouldn't mind but probably to expense, something like five years, $100 million ($20M APY): $53M total guaranteed, $35M fully guaranteed at signing.

There will be a number of guys that aren't on any current list once the cutting starts as teams try and get under the cap number whatever that will be.

 

[Hawkeye19]

New Cowboys defensive coordinator Dan Quinn has a reputation as a guy players like playing for. He’s energetic and approachable and based on some recent history, enjoys a level of loyalty from former players.

Question: Will Dan Quinn be interested in recruiting some defensive free agents to Dallas that are both impactful and at a price Stephen Jones won’t balk at? Here are some possibilities based on Quinn’s time both in Atlanta and Seattle:

• Safety Damontae Kazee- 27 year old S who had 8 Int’s in 2018 for Atlanta. He was a 5th round pick in 2017 and started most of his time in Atl. Unfortunately, he had an Achilles injury that ended his season in Oct of last year. If healthy, Kazee is an upgrade for sure from Xavier Woods.

• CB Richard Sherman- 33 year old former All Pro who starred for Quinn in the “Legion of Boom” days in Sea. I’m not normally a big fan of signing FAs who are on the tail end of their careers, but Sherman is a guy who can be a locker room leader and have a positive impact on the culture. He’s not as good as he once was but he’s still better than most of what we have. He’s probably a future HOFer. If his price is right, I would be interested.
  
  
• Safety Keanu Neal- 25 year old former 1st round pick in Atl. The Falcons exercised their 5th year option on him last year. He is an outstanding tackler but not as much of a ball hawk. Avg speed but hits like a freight train. Had a torn ACL in 2019 but did return in 2020. Probably a more refined Donovan Lewis type, so we may not be interested for that reason.
  
  
• DE Charles Harris- 26 year old former 1st round pick of the dolphins, Harris was traded to the Falcons in 2020 as an edge rusher. Had 3 sacks last year in 13 games, but has certainly underachieved for a 1st rounder. He does have talent though. Not that intriguing to me though.
  
  
• CB Shaquill Griffin- 25, has played hist first 4 yrs in Sea. Never played for Quinn in Sea but comes from a familiar system. Griffin was a 3rd round pick in 2017. He made the ProBowl in 2019 and has 6 INTs in 4 years. I would be very interested in this guy in free agency.

Who knows if any of these guys will end up here but it is certainly a possibility the way free agency usually goes. Many FAs like to play for coaches they know and in systems they have had success with. We might see a couple of them land here.

I would be open to Kazee, Neal, Sherman, or Griffin. All of them provide some vet experience and depth at serious positions of need.

Would love to see us address DT and LBer as well— but Rome wasn’t built in a day lol

 

[CouchCoach]

Most coaches make poor personnel people. Remember Parcells trying to take Spears ahead of Ware? Marinelli trying to save a troubled teen in Hill and loving him some Hayden because of his effort?

Now, considering the doofi in the Cowboys FO, Quinn might be refreshing.

 

[charron]

For once i'd like this team to workout a few guys before making a decision and picking someone just because they are familiar to a coach.

 

[quickccc]

New Cowboys defensive coordinator Dan Quinn has a reputation as a guy players like playing for. He’s energetic and approachable and based on some recent history, enjoys a level of loyalty from former players.

Question: Will Dan Quinn be interested in recruiting some defensive free agents to Dallas that are both impactful and at a price Stephen Jones won’t balk at? Here are some possibilities based on Quinn’s time both in Atlanta and Seattle:

• Safety Damontae Kazee- 27 year old S who had 8 Int’s in 2018 for Atlanta. He was a 5th round pick in 2017 and started most of his time in Atl. Unfortunately, he had an Achilles injury that ended his season in Oct of last year. If healthy, Kazee is an upgrade for sure from Xavier Woods.

• CB Richard Sherman- 33 year old former All Pro who starred for Quinn in the “Legion of Boom” days in Sea. I’m not normally a big fan of signing FAs who are on the tail end of their careers, but Sherman is a guy who can be a locker room leader and have a positive impact on the culture. He’s not as good as he once was but he’s still better than most of what we have. He’s probably a future HOFer. If his price is right, I would be interested.
  
  
• Safety Keanu Neal- 25 year old former 1st round pick in Atl. The Falcons exercised their 5th year option on him last year. He is an outstanding tackler but not as much of a ball hawk. Avg speed but hits like a freight train. Had a torn ACL in 2019 but did return in 2020. Probably a more refined Donovan Lewis type, so we may not be interested for that reason.
  
  
• DE Charles Harris- 26 year old former 1st round pick of the dolphins, Harris was traded to the Falcons in 2020 as an edge rusher. Had 3 sacks last year in 13 games, but has certainly underachieved for a 1st rounder. He does have talent though. Not that intriguing to me though.
  
  
• CB Shaquill Griffin- 25, has played hist first 4 yrs in Sea. Never played for Quinn in Sea but comes from a familiar system. Griffin was a 3rd round pick in 2017. He made the ProBowl in 2019 and has 6 INTs in 4 years. I would be very interested in this guy in free agency.

Who knows if any of these guys will end up here but it is certainly a possibility the way free agency usually goes. Many FAs like to play for coaches they know and in systems they have had success with. We might see a couple of them land here.

- The best scenario would be an Falcon safety to whom the new DC Dan Quinn is most familiar with. It would take Quinn vouching hard to sign up Keanu Neal if the asking price is more than
what Stephen Jones prefers. I maybe type casting Stephen but the usual trend seems cheap bargain vet that he hopes it big here, ..or he's gonna prefer trying to hit on a mid-late round
hidden gem. This part of management just seems to have little regards for certain positions -ala safety and 1 tech DT.

- Because Quinn's familiarity with certain ATL players, and depending upon the contract price, I could one of the two ATL coming here: Keanu Neal or Damontae Kazee.
Kazee who was among NFL leaders in INTs before his big injury could come cheaper- because of the recovering injury. He's a converted CB turned safety.
The irony is I'd wonder if the Cowboys would be interested in UFA vet Richard Sherman also as a converted CB turn Safety at this stage of his career.

- Shaquille Griffin is a pro bowler who is almost certainly gonna be outta our of preferred price on the open market. I dunno what other top FAs the Hawks have due to be UFA, but I expect
Griffin will be franchise tagged otherwise.

- Charles Harris would have to be a vet minimum at the least, as a rotation as I think he's turned out to be JAG. And frankly i'd like to direct more rotation time/snaps towards
the likes of Bradley Anae; and it hasn't been decided if Aldon Smith will be returning. Believe it or not there could be a bidding war for his services.

 

[Kolemmitt]

Based on our history, I think it is a given that we sign a few mid-range to low-range FAs at CB, S, DT, and possibly LB and DE, so we can go into the draft not absolutely needing to get a position.

I would love to get Simmon or my and a CB like Griffen, but I don't think it's too likely.

I can definitely see Kazee and possibly a guy like Sherman, depending on how much he is looking for, and how much other teams are willing to pay for him.

At DT we probably resign Woods and McCoy and find a 1T in the draft.

 

[jazzcat22]

If any of them want more than 37 cents, they aren’t coming here.

Hey, now, if they restructure a few contracts, they go as high at 38 cents for one of them.

 

[fivetwos]

If they intend to take a shot on an injury prone safety (which I think they ought to as well as spend a 2nd rounder on one)....

Id rather it be Malik Hooker.

Higher upside lottery ticket.

Either way, this type of signing should not stop them from drafting one....and high

 

[quickccc]

Yeah if Seahawks let Griffen go.....its going to be because of too much money. And quite frankly, I think I'd rather re-sign Chido for a cheaper deal than to get Griffen on a big deal.

you rather re-sign a career underachiever that's been just average serviceable player over a guy that's already a pro bowl caliber ?
just for the sake of being the cheaper dollar and less talented ? How much sense does that make ?

 

[Future]

Neither Kazee nor Neal is an upgrade to Woods/Wilson, they're redundant.

 

[texbumthelife]

I'd definitely be interested in Griffen. System flexibility, playmaking skills, still relatively young. He's not the burner so many people want at CB, but he's a proven commodity with flexibility.

I dont know anything about Kazee and want Moerhing.

The rest are pretty meh, but depth is always needed.

 

[Rayman70]

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^^this 100%

 

[gjkoeppen]

New Cowboys defensive coordinator Dan Quinn has a reputation as a guy players like playing for. He’s energetic and approachable and based on some recent history, enjoys a level of loyalty from former players.

Question: Will Dan Quinn be interested in recruiting some defensive free agents to Dallas that are both impactful and at a price Stephen Jones won’t balk at? Here are some possibilities based on Quinn’s time both in Atlanta and Seattle:

• Safety Damontae Kazee- 27 year old S who had 8 Int’s in 2018 for Atlanta. He was a 5th round pick in 2017 and started most of his time in Atl. Unfortunately, he had an Achilles injury that ended his season in Oct of last year. If healthy, Kazee is an upgrade for sure from Xavier Woods.

• CB Richard Sherman- 33 year old former All Pro who starred for Quinn in the “Legion of Boom” days in Sea. I’m not normally a big fan of signing FAs who are on the tail end of their careers, but Sherman is a guy who can be a locker room leader and have a positive impact on the culture. He’s not as good as he once was but he’s still better than most of what we have. He’s probably a future HOFer. If his price is right, I would be interested.
  
  
• Safety Keanu Neal- 25 year old former 1st round pick in Atl. The Falcons exercised their 5th year option on him last year. He is an outstanding tackler but not as much of a ball hawk. Avg speed but hits like a freight train. Had a torn ACL in 2019 but did return in 2020. Probably a more refined Donovan Lewis type, so we may not be interested for that reason.
  
  
• DE Charles Harris- 26 year old former 1st round pick of the dolphins, Harris was traded to the Falcons in 2020 as an edge rusher. Had 3 sacks last year in 13 games, but has certainly underachieved for a 1st rounder. He does have talent though. Not that intriguing to me though.
  
  
• CB Shaquill Griffin- 25, has played hist first 4 yrs in Sea. Never played for Quinn in Sea but comes from a familiar system. Griffin was a 3rd round pick in 2017. He made the ProBowl in 2019 and has 6 INTs in 4 years. I would be very interested in this guy in free agency.

Who knows if any of these guys will end up here but it is certainly a possibility the way free agency usually goes. Many FAs like to play for coaches they know and in systems they have had success with. We might see a couple of them land here.

The first think I thought when I saw this thread was Quinn made some kind of statement somewhere where he said something about these players, but it's just what you think Quinn might be interested in.

Now lets look at therm. Kazee tore his Achilles tendon that normally takes a full 10-12 months to completely recoup from. Also a condition called drop foot sometimes results which takes longer to rehab from. Sherman you admitted is not the player he once was and we don't need to spend money on locker room leader, the Cowboys have players already for that. You said Neal and Harris you really weren't interested in so I'll leave thos as that and then Griffen with is 6 picks in 4 years or 1.5 picks a season. Last year he did have 3 picks but he's probably wants more than what the Cowboys will be able to afford. Don't kid yourself most free agents go to whatever team offers the most money. That's how we see some good players signing on bad teams.
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[Mannix]

------I never been a fan of the ol' bring in players the coordinator previously had...especially when he got fired from that spot.

Amen

 

[JayFord]

Im going to say its highly unlikely we sign any of these players