News: TLH: Super Bowl LV shows why Cowboys need to pay Dak Prescott

rnr_honeybadger

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the talking point isn’t “a model” it’s THE model. Giselle makes more money than any NFL player.

Brady didn't marry his wife until 2009. His contracts throughout his tenure prior to his nuptials were contracts designed to keep the team around him - he understood that. So this whole narrative that he is only giving a discount because of his wife is horse crap.
 

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Ridiculous comparison. Several QBs make more than Brady. Why?

Gee, I don't know. Maybe Brady already being filthy rich, and married to someone even richer, makes it easy for him to be a team player and take less?

Come on, folks. This stuff shouldn't need explained.
So pay twice as much for somebody half as good?
 

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No merely pointing out how ridiculous it is to claim that Brady's discounts are entirely because he chose to marry a woman who was/is a super model. Like we are all suppose to believe that Dak Prescott is dating the house maid.
Hes not dating a house maid but he also isnt dating Gisele
 

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Brady didn't marry his wife until 2009. His contracts throughout his tenure prior to his nuptials were contracts designed to keep the team around him - he understood that. So this whole narrative that he is only giving a discount because of his wife is horse crap.
LOL. You obviously dont remember the dog poop brady was playing with.
 

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Brady didn't marry his wife until 2009. His contracts throughout his tenure prior to his nuptials were contracts designed to keep the team around him - he understood that. So this whole narrative that he is only giving a discount because of his wife is horse crap.

He signed the biggest deal in the league in 2010 lol. Come off it.

but my point is less about why he does what he does and more about the weird conclusion you let it take you to with Dak
 

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LOL. You obviously dont remember the dog poop brady was playing with.

As I recall, he was also winning with said dog poop? Something that Stats Prescott is unable to do. But you are right, let's bust the cap by paying Prescott more so that he has less people around him to make the team competitive.
 

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He signed the biggest deal in the league in 2010 lol. Come off it.

but my point is less about why he does what he does and more about the weird conclusion you let it take you to with Dak

In 2010 after his marriage and since then it's trended lower because he understands the basic idea that to win he needs people around him.
 

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As I recall, he was also winning with said dog poop? Something that Stats Prescott is unable to do. But you are right, let's bust the cap by paying Prescott more so that he has less people around him to make the team competitive.
Yeah good call. Let go of a QB because he isnt Tom Brady.
 

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Yeah good call. Let go of a QB because he isnt Tom Brady.

As opposed to paying a limited QB $40 million a year and ensure that we cannot keep the talent that he needs around him to keep the team competitive? Please show me a single instance where Dak Prescott when playing on a team without adequate tackles, WR's and RB's has been successful? Please show us this proof because him throwing for 400 yards against scrub defenses isn't some great proof that he can lead this team to the playoffs.
 

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In 2010 after his marriage and since then it's trended lower because he understands the basic idea that to win he needs people around him.

and that his wife is a half a billionaire and he was getting paid under the table through tb12 lol.

I’d like to see Dak give some concessions, but not because of what Tom Brady has done
 

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Seriously....

100% of GMs and owners would take a 40+ year old Brady over a 27 year old Dak.

Brady can play for only $25m cause he's married to someone who makes more? If you think this is the reason why he takes less pay you need to reevaluate your thought logic or basic understanding of things.

He joked about his wife making the money however went on to say something along the lines of one guy getting to much in the salary cap era takes away from the team and likes to be surrounded by good players
 

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and that his wife is a half a billionaire and he was getting paid under the table through tb12 lol.

I’d like to see Dak give some concessions, but not because of what Tom Brady has done

So Dak has no endorsements? That what this is? As for Tom Brady's wife's wealth, does anyone know if he signed a pre-nup? Fairly sure he did. So in the end all this means what? My wife is wealthy so I'm going to take a discount playing a rough sport?
 

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I hope we keep Dak but don’t feel sorry for someone who turned down $33-$35 million a year and around $110 million guaranteed.
 

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Brady makes about 25 million a year. Is Dak better than Brady?
Poor example since that’s basically a 2 year deal in possibly his last contract of his career. If you use that barometer then basically every franchise QB is over paid.

A better comparison is Watson who signed 4 year 156 million averaging about 39 million. Is Watson better than Dak?

And there’s expected to be more extensions upcoming with Mayfield in the same 40 million a year neighborhood.

Most likely once the Pandemic is over, the 17th game is added , the new collective bargaining agreement and network deal coming in 2023, Franchise QB will be in the 50 million range and Dak 40 million will be much further down the scale

Look how far Wilson’s 35 million as highest paid last year has already fallen . In a couple years 40 million will look reasonable for a franchise QB. That’s how the market value works.
 

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Although I think Dak is a very good QB with potential to become great, it is no means certain. Brady & Mahomes situations are nothing like Dak's. The 2 QBs situations that are VERY much like Dak's are Goff and Wentz, and we see now how both their franchises have regretted paying them "Market Price" at the time.

The odds are good we will be much more likely to regret the market value contract like the Eagles and Rams did because UNLIKE the Bucs and Chiefs with Brady & Mahomes, the rest of our team isn't a QB away from being Superbowl contenders. We need too much help with our defense. Neither Brady nor Mahomes could win a SB with our defense as it currently stands. We need to build it up. Very hard to do with paying a massive contract to your QB.

Paying Dak means we have to be much much better drafting defense than we have been so far. It is not impossible to accomplish with a highly paid QB sucking up so much of your capital, but you have to be extremely lucky and hit on some real later round gems in the draft.

Or, you could structure other contracts to open up a year or two window to spend on free agents to go for broke at that time, messing up your future cap and making it virtually impossible to win even if Dak becomes the best QB in the league after that.

Cowboys are at a very unenviable crossroads. Pay Dak and hope to be extremely lucky in the draft to build a contender or let him walk and have an easier time to build up the roster but likely have an inferior QB/Leader to helm it.

Either way, I will support the decision as neither option is great and either option could turn out well in the end. We will see.
 

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As opposed to paying a limited QB $40 million a year and ensure that we cannot keep the talent that he needs around him to keep the team competitive? Please show me a single instance where Dak Prescott when playing on a team without adequate tackles, WR's and RB's has been successful? Please show us this proof because him throwing for 400 yards against scrub defenses isn't some great proof that he can lead this team to the playoffs.
Show me an instance where ANY QB in the NFL has done well without his RBs WRs and Tackles. Look at the great Mahomes on sunday when his OL wasnt playing well.
 

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Show me an instance where ANY QB in the NFL has done well without his RBs WRs and Tackles. Look at the great Mahomes on sunday when his OL wasnt playing well.

They haven't, so why would you wreck your team and limit it's ability to keep those key pieces or even improve in those areas by allocating a lions share of the resources to one guy?
 

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They haven't, so why would you wreck your team and limit it's ability to keep those key pieces or even improve in those areas by allocating a lions share of the resources to one guy?
Because that is what the draft is for? You people with this argument make me laugh. If we sign Dak we have a 3 year window to fix the defence. Do you think Brady himself won on sunday? or his defence destroying the KC OL all game did?
 
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