Dak in 2020

[Verdict]

What do you guys think about all the tears on this forum, once the course of action occurs on Dak? Do you think they will be salty?

I think that deserves its own Dak thread. I think I should start one!

 

[ondaedg]

It isn't just interceptions, it's the ability to quickly progress through your reads, it's the ability to read defenses consistently and accurately - look at the best QB's they are guys who make the reads quickly, release quickly and move the ball. The best games to observe Dak's play are games (good example is the Rams game from 2020 - 3 whopping points scored by the offense in the second half of that game) where he is facing defenses that are above average. You will see the panic, throwing balls short and behind receivers consistently, and offense that is settling for FG's instead of TD's or in most cases going 3 and out over and over again. Can this team do worse than Dak yes. Can they do better than Dak - ALSO YES. When you boil it down paying a guy who is more in the mold of a Kirk Cousins like an elite QB regardless of what the Houston Texans paid Deshaun Watson is stupid.

Deshaun just went 4-12.

 

[ondaedg]

I don't like to say Dak went 2-3. We we losing that Giants game when he got injured. Dak went 1-3 last year in my book.

Dak would not have sustained those numbers. That is just not realistic. It's the same way Wilson didn't sustain his crazy TD numbers.

Any QB needs help to win. Some more than others, of course. I believe Dak in in that "some" category.

Ya the only help Joe Montana needed was Jerry Rice and like six other HOFers. Dak needs like so much more help.

 

[Brax]

Glad you asked.. I keep this handy when people brag about 2019.






So Dak threw for 30 TD's this season. (2019)

16 of his 30 TD's came against 3 of the worst 5 teams in football.

9 of those TD's came in the first 3 weeks against awful teams. (All drafting top 5)

Against teams with a record of .500 or better he threw 11 TD's.

The other 19 came against the weak teams on our schedule and 13 of those 19 came in the first 3 weeks and week 17 against Washington when he threw 4 against a team that was done.

Dallas was also 2-7 against teams with a .500 record or better.

Dak had 4 games this year with no TD passes including our loss to the Jets...


He also had 11 int's... 3 of them came against the teams below .500.. The other 8 came against the teams with a .500 record or better.

You must be a hater, facts mean little to nothing and context means nothing to some. You did hear that Dak walks on water and is the greatest QB to ever suit up. Glad to see another insightful post.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Deshaun just went 4-12.

but but but....(wait for it)......

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

Deshaun just went 4-12.

Okay, so now explain how Watson who hasn't lived up to his ridiculous contract is some justification to sign Dak to a ridiculous contract? Keep in mind, Dak is no where close to the athlete that Watson is.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I don't like to say Dak went 2-3. We we losing that Giants game when he got injured. Dak went 1-3 last year in my book.

Dak would not have sustained those numbers. That is just not realistic. It's the same way Wilson didn't sustain his crazy TD numbers.

Any QB needs help to win. Some more than others, of course. I believe Dak in in that "some" category.

omg, do people just make shiet up as they go along..... the cowboys were leading by 4 points at the half. giants got the ball and scored a field goal, so cowboys were leading by 1. they were driving down the field easily for another score, then Dak got injured on the 19. Dalton came in proceeded to get sacked on the very next play. Zeke finished it off with a 12 yard run.....

wow, you must have drank some moonshine and passed out by halftime.......

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Okay, so now explain how Watson who hasn't lived up to his ridiculous contract is some justification to sign Dak to a ridiculous contract? Keep in mind, Dak is no where close to the athlete that Watson is.

Dak has never had a losing season. Watson has managed two 4-12 seasons...even Quincy Carter got 5 wins, with campo as his head coach.......Dak deserves the 40M way more than watson.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

What's your point? What does any of this have to do with the fact the Browns, Falcons and Seahawks lit our defense up and caused us to lose the game?

he has no answer, no wait for it...he is going to say, because Dak didn't score every drive, every possessoin to keep up with the opposing team, so its his fault...this dude demands perfection on every throw, every pass, every drive, every possession, every quarter, every half, every game.....not joking, that's what he wants. Dak needs to have 100% completion rate and 3 TDs every game for him to say he may consider Dak....and even then he find fault.

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

Dak has never had a losing season. Watson has managed two 4-12 seasons...even Quincy Carter got 5 wins, with campo as his head coach.......Dak deserves the 40M way more than watson.

Who the hell cares if Dak never had a losing season - each of his 5 years in the league has seen the team trending downwards. He is 1-2 in the playoffs and sucks anytime he plays a half way decent defense. The offense wracks up yards but has trended downward in redzone efficiency since 2016. Where is this elite talent we are supposed to be paying for?

 

[atlantacowboy]

A lot is being said about Dak's gaudy stats last year and it is worth visiting those numbers.

In the five games Dak played in, he threw 4 ints and fumbled 3 times. The numerous Cowboy mistakes made them play catch up all/most of the games. Dak threw a lot of passes against bad or prevent defenses last year. He did not have to face the Commanders front 7 either time. The Cowboys went 2-3 in those games needing a miracle to beat the lowly Falcons.

Yes, Dak put up some huge yards in those games. I like Dak, his skill set and his leadership.

With that said, giving him 40 mil per will put this team squarely where it has been. Average.

If the Cowboys can get a first and a third(or more), you need to avoid cap disaster. Dak needs help to win and if anything 2020 proved that.

SHHHHHH! He is our leader and we can't win without him!

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

he has no answer, no wait for it...he is going to say, because Dak didn't score every drive, every possessoin to keep up with the opposing team, so its his fault...this dude demands perfection on every throw, every pass, every drive, every possession, every quarter, every half, every game.....not joking, that's what he wants. Dak needs to have 100% completion rate and 3 TDs every game for him to say he may consider Dak....and even then he find fault.

Exactly. I mean damn are we at the point where we need our quarterback to score every possession because Mahomes doesn’t even do that.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Who the hell cares if Dak never had a losing season - each of his 5 years in the league has seen the team trending downwards. He is 1-2 in the playoffs and sucks anytime he plays a half way decent defense. The offense wracks up yards but has trended downward in redzone efficiency since 2016. Where is this elite talent we are supposed to be paying for?

now you shift the narrative.....again....this was comparing him to Watson...and its been a bit of up and down, with 2019, ending at 8-8....perhaps having lame duck coaches under and ultimatum and a first year OC with all of one year of coaching experience had something to do with it...you know just a little smidgen...

and his record is better than most QBs you will be mentioning soon against winning teams. and his performance is top 10 against top 10 defenses compared to the rest of those you put on the pedestal...

and I never said he was elite.....in fact I have gone out of my way saying he is not elite than there is only 2, maybe at most 3 elite QBs in the league. the rest are good and Dak is a top 10 QB...

you sound angry

 

[ondaedg]

Okay, so now explain how Watson who hasn't lived up to his ridiculous contract is some justification to sign Dak to a ridiculous contract? Keep in mind, Dak is no where close to the athlete that Watson is.

personally I think Dak is as good or better passer. Deshaun is the better athlete for sure. But the QBs market is the qb market. Can’t win without one so pay market rate and focus on defense in the draft.

 

[BleedSilverandBlue]

Why not? If the objective is to win championships then a person who is demanding a higher salary when it does not warrant such a price tag isn't interested in winning. Sorry but that's not a guy you want on a team.

Well, tell that to pretty much every other NFL player then. Brady routinely allowing himself to be underpaid for the sake of the team is the exception not the standard. Very few players will give out a hometown discount and I would not expect them to. Most do not take pay cuts willingly unless it is near the end of their career and they have made their money and want to chase a ring on a good team. What Dak is requesting in terms of a deal is also likely to become the norm for good QBs in the next offseason. He just so happens to right here on the cusp of the market realigning.

Here are some notable QB deals right now (with many more to be signed like them in the next offseason):

• 1. Chiefs QB Patrick Mahomes: $45 million
• 2. Texans QB Deshaun Watson: $39 million
• 3. Seahawks QB Russell Wilson: $35 million
• 4. Steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger: $34 million
• 5.Packers QB Aaron Rodgers: $33.5 million
• 5. Rams QB Jared Goff: $33.5 million
• 7. Vikings QB Kirk Cousins: $33 million
• 8. Eagles QB Carson Wentz: $32 million
• 9. Cowboys QB Dak Prescott: $$30.1 million
• 10. Falcons QB Matt Ryan: $30 million

I really do not feel like Dak is overvaluing himself too much considering in two seasons there will be another 5 QBs making 35 mil + a year. Now do I think we should pay him that? Absolutely not. I love Dak, but I think it is best for both parties to move on. Do I think he is wrong for getting it from us or another team? Not at all

 

[Corso]

Damn right. We could easily be sitting here 1-15 had he played all year.

Lol. You went full 'tard. I dig it.

 

[My3Sons]

Wow it must be really windy, because those goal posts just moved about 20 feet.

No, you're not wrong to want that, but you're colosally wrong to say "don't pay Dak because of wins and losses." That's lazy logic.

I didnt say that.

 

[csirl]

Oh good ....... Another Dak thread.

Don't worry, these threads will soon be transferring to CFL Zone.

 

[TwentyOne]

A lot is being said about Dak's gaudy stats last year and it is worth visiting those numbers.

In the five games Dak played in, he threw 4 ints and fumbled 3 times. The numerous Cowboy mistakes made them play catch up all/most of the games. Dak threw a lot of passes against bad or prevent defenses last year. He did not have to face the Commanders front 7 either time. The Cowboys went 2-3 in those games needing a miracle to beat the lowly Falcons.

Yes, Dak put up some huge yards in those games. I like Dak, his skill set and his leadership.

With that said, giving him 40 mil per will put this team squarely where it has been. Average.

If the Cowboys can get a first and a third(or more), you need to avoid cap disaster. Dak needs help to win and if anything 2020 proved that.

He was bad in 2020. And very average in 2019.

Both years didnt do him no good.

 

[zrinkill]

Don't worry, these threads will soon be transferring to CFL Zone.

Oh look ..... Another I hate Dak troll who keeps these threads going.