For Dak fans, it just got real

[Dre11]

this coming from a guy who said Kellen Moore was the real deal at qb.

 

[Jipper]

gosh. a dak contract thread calling out a segment of fans.

how novel.

maybe I should have said even people very against resigning dak see his value at more than 15 to 20m?

happy?

 

[KB1122]

No wonder Broaddus got fired.

Giving up a 2 to get the quarterback you want would be incredibly cheap. Especially when you have extra picks in the draft.

 

[Vtwin]

Love how people bring up SB rings as evidence that one QB is better than another. What’s even more funny is that some of the dame people who use that argument against Dak are the same ones who say Romo was better than Eli and his TWO rings. Hypocrites.

Oh the irony!

Literally one minute before you posted this you brought up the results of one game as an argument for Dak.

I don't think you thought this one through.

 

[KB1122]

I think the nut of the observation of the OP is that if Wilson and Prescott were on the same level, we wouldn't want to trade for Wilson. Yet most of us do. Which shows that deep down we think Dak is a level down from what we need. We might be wrong, but that's what we really think when push comes to shove.

 

[Hardline]

The prospect of Russell Wison becoming a Dallas Cowboy just shined a bright light on how little Dak Prescott brings to the table and how overpaid he would be at any price more than $15-$20 million per year.
Russell Wilson is the real deal; he is a real leader and he makes his team better. He is easily worth top money, and has the ring to prove it.
Dak has been living in a fantasy football world, and his fans point to his stats as evidence that he is a top quarterback, but his poor record in big games speaks for itself and tells a different story.
Russell Wilson has the ring, and no one would dare try to compare apples to apples between he and Dak. It's not even close.
And regardless of whether or not Russell Wilson comes to the Cowboys, Dak's real value- or lack thereof- is now more clear than ever before.
He's not the guy.

He would have two rings if he would've just handed the ball to Marshawn Lynch.

 

[big dog cowboy]

"We’ve never seen QBs available like they are now."

I'd also add, ready made to play in the NFL immediately.

 

[KB1122]

"We’ve never seen QBs available like they are now."

I'd also add, ready made to play in the NFL immediately.

And yet three of the final four quarterbacks had already won a Super Bowl.

 

[HungryLion]

The prospect of Russell Wison becoming a Dallas Cowboy just shined a bright light on how little Dak Prescott brings to the table and how overpaid he would be at any price more than $15-$20 million per year.
Russell Wilson is the real deal; he is a real leader and he makes his team better. He is easily worth top money, and has the ring to prove it.
Dak has been living in a fantasy football world, and his fans point to his stats as evidence that he is a top quarterback, but his poor record in big games speaks for itself and tells a different story.
Russell Wilson has the ring, and no one would dare try to compare apples to apples between he and Dak. It's not even close.
And regardless of whether or not Russell Wilson comes to the Cowboys, Dak's real value- or lack thereof- is now more clear than ever before.
He's not the guy.

Seek help

 

[Beaker42]

even dak haters recognize he’s worth more than 15-20 per year...

No, he’s not - he’s a 20mil guy

 

[Dre11]

I think the nut of the observation of the OP is that if Wilson and Prescott were on the same level, we wouldn't want to trade for Wilson. Yet most of us do. Which shows that deep down we think Dak is a level down from what we need. We might be wrong, but that's what we really think when push comes to shove.

do we really, I believe if you put Dak on Russ super bowl team, Dak has a ring too, I dont believe Russ would've won here. then what would we feel? wopuld we be trying to trade Russ for Dak?

 

[Sydla]

The prospect of Russell Wison becoming a Dallas Cowboy just shined a bright light on how little Dak Prescott brings to the table and how overpaid he would be at any price more than $15-$20 million per year.
Russell Wilson is the real deal; he is a real leader and he makes his team better. He is easily worth top money, and has the ring to prove it.
Dak has been living in a fantasy football world, and his fans point to his stats as evidence that he is a top quarterback, but his poor record in big games speaks for itself and tells a different story.
Russell Wilson has the ring, and no one would dare try to compare apples to apples between he and Dak. It's not even close.
And regardless of whether or not Russell Wilson comes to the Cowboys, Dak's real value- or lack thereof- is now more clear than ever before.
He's not the guy.

Except there is no chance Wilson is a Cowboy. The price the Cowboys might have to pay in order for Seattle to eat the massive bonus cap hit they'd have to take to change is very high.

This thread is basically a waste.

 

[Bigdog]

The reason Dak’s deal is probably taking so long is that Dak is asking for $15 million per year and Jerry wants to pay him $40 million per year and neither wants to compromise.

And Dak wants 5 years and Jerry insists on him taken 4 years so he can give him another contract and prove how smart he is

 

[Sydla]

do we really, I believe if you put Dak on Russ super bowl team, Dak has a ring too, I dont believe Russ would've won here. then what would we feel? wopuld we be trying to trade Russ for Dak?

1) Wilson is a better QB than Dak. That's not to say Dak is a bad QB, he's a very good QB. Wilson is better.

2) If you could make a fair trade for him, the cap savings alone would make it worth it.

 

[Vtwin]

Anyone who wants to see the huge difference between Dak and Wilson should go watch the end of the week 5 game between the Hawks and the Vikings.

Down by 5 with 1:57 left at their own 6 yard line Wilson leads them to first and goal at the six with 0:32 left. Starting here is where Wilson shows how much more complete he is than Dak. Needing a TD to win, Wilson was asked to take four straight shots into the endzone, from the pocket. He and Metcalf scored the winner on fourth down. All attempts were tight window attempts in traffic.

Wilson was trusted and respected enough to take those shots. We practically NEVER see that from Dak in that position. In close like that it is always some sort of trickery or a swing pass to Zeke or maybe a QB draw or a jet sweep. Probably see the fumblerooskie this year...

Those throws are one area that Dak has shown little to no improvement in and that is made clear by the play calling in those situations.

 

[Dre11]

1) Wilson is a better QB than Dak. That's not to say Dak is a bad QB, he's a very good QB. Wilson is better.

2) If you could make a fair trade for him, the cap savings alone would make it worth it.

1.we say Russell is better at this point in his career, but at the same point in their careers Dak is pretty much where Russ was without the wins and super bowl, but we all know that has to do a lot with the team and not just the individual player. We talk like Dak is tapped out in development.

2. a trade for Wilson wouldnt be worth it, he's older 32, how many more good years you getting out of Russ vs Dak who's at 27. Not to mention Russ will probably want a new deal to come here or shortly there after, How much do you think that would be? probably more than Dak.

 

[Dre11]

Anyone who wants to see the huge difference between Dak and Wilson should go watch the end of the week 5 game between the Hawks and the Vikings.

Down by 5 with 1:57 left at their own 6 yard line Wilson leads them to first and goal at the six with 0:32 left. Starting here is where Wilson shows how much more complete he is than Dak. Needing a TD to win, Wilson was asked to take four straight shots into the endzone, from the pocket. He and Metcalf scored the winner on fourth down. All attempts were tight window attempts in traffic.

Wilson was trusted and respected enough to take those shots. We practically NEVER see that from Dak in that position. In close like that it is always some sort of trickery or a swing pass to Zeke or maybe a QB draw or a jet sweep. Probably see the fumblerooskie this year...

Those throws are one area that Dak has shown little to no improvement in and that is made clear by the play calling in those situations.

 

[The Quest for Six]

I'd trade Dak for Wilson straight up, but I doubt that trade happens. Franchise Tag Dak again, fix the defense and see what the season holds, and address the issue after the season based on Dak's performance...

 

[thechosen1n2]

The prospect of Russell Wison becoming a Dallas Cowboy just shined a bright light on how little Dak Prescott brings to the table and how overpaid he would be at any price more than $15-$20 million per year.
Russell Wilson is the real deal; he is a real leader and he makes his team better. He is easily worth top money, and has the ring to prove it.
Dak has been living in a fantasy football world, and his fans point to his stats as evidence that he is a top quarterback, but his poor record in big games speaks for itself and tells a different story.
Russell Wilson has the ring, and no one would dare try to compare apples to apples between he and Dak. It's not even close.
And regardless of whether or not Russell Wilson comes to the Cowboys, Dak's real value- or lack thereof- is now more clear than ever before.
He's not the guy.

No depth in this argument, and I believe Russell is better, but not to the levels that people say or think. Russell was known as the bus driver when he won a superbowl, and he won on the coat tails of a legendary, historically great defense and an extremely good running game. Dak has only had one of those. What has Russell done since. He even lost a superbowl with that historically great defense when the game was put into his hands. When his defense was bad last year, he looked atrocious...not the team, he looked atrocious without the tools around him. Not to mention Head to Head Dak is up on him, including a playoff game where purely out played Wilson.

We say Watson is better BUT he only won 4 games with a bad team. Dak has never sunk to 4 wins...bad team or not. Now again, I think Watson is slightly better but the point is why does the goal post continue to move with the Dak argument.

So my question is what makes you say and what has wilson done without the legion of boom to say there is that drastic a difference?

 

[Vtwin]

I think you must have posted the wrong link. I am not seeing anything here that is relevant in any way to my point.