Bottom line is Jerry has bumbled the Dak negotiations

[MRV52]

Jerry had bumbled it but now he is in the drivers seat. Dak is the one in trouble. Wilson saved Jerry's butt.

 

[Floatyworm]

Bottom Line.....This might be Jerry's best move ......not taking the media fed bait.

 

[jaythecowboy]

Because when I say that many users here just repeat what sportswriters speculate, I get told that there really aren't that many but in reality there is.
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Pretty much all the Dak discussion around here is users repeating sportswriters speculation, but only when it's something they don't like they suddenly want hard proof.

 

[Bullflop]

Whatever has been going on behind the scenes isn't being fully revealed. If these talks are going so "good," where is the good contract? One thing's for sure -- whatever we say or do isn't likely to make any difference to those directly involved. All we can really do is sit back and hope for the best.

 

[Steve007]

Best info we have is that Dak would have a signed 35 million per year for 4 years last off season. If Jerry didnt take that deal, then he blew it. Plain and simple. That was a legitimate market deal Dak would have signed.

That is from the media. Not confirmed. He was injured last season and now the talk is he wants 40+. The Cowboys need to move on from Dak.

 

[CowboyRoy]

That is from the media. Not confirmed. He was injured last season and now the talk is he wants 40+. The Cowboys need to move on from Dak.

So on one hand you say its only media speculation, then you go ahead and want to move on based on that speculation?

Cant just cut the guy. Too valuable. You either sign him or trade him.

 

[gjkoeppen]

This is the first time I even speculated about the number 40 million being remotely legit. Based in the current situation, I think it’s remotely credible and worthy of a comment.

It would be if that 40 mil wasn't based on speculations made by sportswriters in articles and tweets. If anyone actually involved in the negotiations made any statement on where they are and how much the person's name would be used as (that person) said and then quote them exactly, but we don't have any of those, just speculations.
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[CowboyRoy]

It would be if that 40 mil wasn't based on speculations made by sportswriters in articles and tweets. If anyone actually involved in the negotiations made any statement on where they are and how much the person's name would be used as (that person) said and then quote them exactly, but we don't have any of those, just speculations.
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yep, rumors and speculation. That’s why I said several times.....”if the rumors are true”.

 

[gjkoeppen]

yep, rumors and speculation. That’s why I said several times.....”if the rumors are true”.

Tell you what. You keep thinking about what if and I'll wait until something official is released. I don't see ANY reason to worry about ANYTHING based on rumors or speculations.
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[ChuckA1]

Bottom line is a negotiation takes two sides to make it work. Please stop blaming this all on the FO, geez!

Now, if you want to blame the FO for the lousy D, I'm right there with you.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Tell you what. You keep thinking about what if and I'll wait until something official is released. I don't see ANY reason to worry about ANYTHING based on rumors or speculations.
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Sounds like a great plan.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

At 40 million or 41 million per year average, were at the ridiculous point. If that is truly where we are.

Jerry could have had this wrapped up for 35 million or a little less two years ago and 35 million just last year and he blew it. So if he has to pay upwards of 40 million, then he blew it.

On the surface, it looks like Dak cares about maximizing his money. If all this salary conjecture is really true. His determination to maximize his money 3 years from now with the TV contract shows again, that we will have to do this all over again, and the numbers will be even more crazy. If the rumors are true.

Problem is we have NO other options at the moment.

Cutting Dak for nothing is just dumb. Simply cant do that. You either sign Dak 3 years and work on his replacement during that time or you trade him.

Giving away the rights to Dak is NOT an option.

Here are the options I see that make any sense:

-Sign Dak, play out the next 3 years, continue to build the defense and team around the QB
-Sign Dak, at some point trade him while you build the defense and team around the QB
-trade him now before the draft

Options that make ZERO sense:

-Let Dak walk
-let Dak play on the tag this year and let him walk

Either way, this Jerry/Dak contract is to the point of total stupidity. Needs to be done with already one way or the other.

Blokes, Jerry, unlike you, could not foresee the future like you two years ago.
I don't fault him too much.
I DO fault him for overpaying Zeke.
I'd rather overpay Dak than Zeke.

 

[ChuckA1]

Blokes, Jerry, unlike you, could not foresee the future like you two years ago.
I don't fault him too much.
I DO fault him for overpaying Zeke.
I'd rather overpay Dak than Zeke.

While I can still offer my opinion on this, I'd rather not overpay for any position ever again.

 

[Steve007]

So on one hand you say its only media speculation, then you go ahead and want to move on based on that speculation?

Cant just cut the guy. Too valuable. You either sign him or trade him.

Give him the Non exclusive tag and see what the market for Dak is. The numbers are speculation. What isn't speculation is they can't get a deal done.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Probably could have done a 5 year deal at that point and had 3 years left at a much more reasonable rate.

The team famously wants him to sign a 5 year deal. His team wants a 4 year deal so he can get back to free agency faster.

So probably not actually.

 

[Buzzbait]

The reality is there is a lot that we don't know.

I think Dak's representation switching agencies and Dak's injury have impacted these negotiations more than anything. Regardless, both sides have to want to get this thing done. Going months without speaking because one of the other sides feels "disrespected" is absolute lunacy. Jerry needs to look out for his franchise and Todd France needs to look out for his client.

I think Todd France is just looking out for Todd France and the heck with his client.

 

[Buzzbait]

no he turned down a 5 year deal, he wanted 4, all they had to do was give it to him. as I said before, they had 4 years to fix the defense.

Be that as it may, you can't put spilled milk back in the bottle, and overpaying Dak now will not fix the problem.

 

[noshame]

Lord knows I am not a Jerry fan so to speak, but they offered him a standard 5 yr deal for a fair amount last year and Daks agent was stuck on a four year deal.
That wasn't Jerry's fault.v

Tag him, offer a long term fair amount and open trade talks. We'll see what he's worth. If anybody offers 2 #1s I'll take it.

No.. It wouldn't..

It's just better then this crap deal.

These QB contracts are out of hand. Dak should probably make 20 million a year for the impact he realistically has on the field. If we want to be nice then 25.

35 is still stupid and teams who are doing those deals are still regretting it on the back end.

Russell Wilson, an elite QB, is begging to get out of Seattle and go to a win now team because they found out the hard way what life is like after paying a QB but at least they had a Superbowl in hand.

 

[Cmac]

Would you pay 40+ million a year for something that you thought was worth 30?

It doesn't matter what fans think about Dak. If it was up to the fans this team would be terrible.

Jerry and Co, do not believe in Dak enough to pay him elite money and I don't blame them for that. I'm glad we aren't willing to pay a good player great plater money.

You guys are quick to give our FO all this credit on how well they draft and evaluate talent. Why does that not apply here? If the same guys that are doing so well evaluating players are telling Jerry that Dak is simply not worth what he is asking why not trust it?

This is the Dallas Cowboys, not the Dallas Prescott's.

…..somebody been listening to Dan Orlovsky.

 

[Dre11]

Be that as it may, you can't put spilled milk back in the bottle, and overpaying Dak now will not fix the problem.

You're not overpaying, you paying the increase of the market. Just as you would in any job/business.