News: Dak Wants Cowboys To Pay Him ‘Right Behind Mahomes’ - And Pay Him ‘Respect’

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The hell? How many games do y’all think Dak played with Collins and Tyron? Did y’all not see Steele start week 1?
Now do Martin. Dak had Tyron for about 40% of his starts. How about the other guys?

Now do the other positions on the OL. It's not remotely comparable.

What were you just trying to say to others about facts?
 

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Correction. You are a liar because you lie. Its not a "others" situation. This is a you and khiladi situation. You guys lie. End of discussion. I Don't know what else to tell you other than stop lying....don't hide behind "others". "Others" who dislike Dak do it with bringing facts and information to the table. You on the other hand do it with lies, deceit and misinformation. That's the difference.

Show me the lies instead of just claiming someone is a liar. I have posted statistics time and time again....because you do not like those statistics doesn't make me a liar but just makes you in denial. No worries though as I prefer to have legitimate debates with adults rather than engage with those who have temper tantrums when they hear something that hurts them in their special place.
 

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Dak isn’t demanding anything. If you’ve paid attention over the years then you would know that players aren’t paid based on if they’re the 2nd or 3rd or 4th or whatever best player at their position but are paid on what the market allows.

I'm paying attention, Tell that to Dak and France. Did you not read the thread title? It was even on the news last night. He reportedly wants right behind Mahomes. He's not looking for "what the market allows", right behind Mahomes means he thinks he's the 2nd best QB and he wants 2nd highest money.
C'mon Rock, you know what's going on here. He's shooting for 40+ mil a year and there's only 1 guy in that bracket, that's Mahomes.
That's why there's no contract agreement, and rightfully so.
 

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Now do Martin. Dak had Tyron for about 40% of his starts. How about the other guys?

Now do the other positions on the OL. It's not remotely comparable.

What were you just trying to say to others about facts?

Its not about it being "comparable". Was the offensive like trash even when Zack Martin was out there? Yes. You can't be serious trying to argue that Dalton had it bad but Dak had it good? Sacked 10 times in 5 games but the offensive line was good? Just silly.
 

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Show me the lies instead of just claiming someone is a liar. I have posted statistics time and time again....because you do not like those statistics doesn't make me a liar but just makes you in denial. No worries though as I prefer to have legitimate debates with adults rather than engage with those who have temper tantrums when they hear something that hurts them in their special place.
For some reason when I debate others on the subject matter and they bring facts to the table there's no problem. But when you do it there is? What makes you special? If we are being honest....there's not much you can say bad about Dak stats wise because he grades out well. The only thing you can do is bring up his W/L record or his bad games. You can't take his overall body of work and paint it to be negative because its not. So this is what you do. You resort to the "Dak slobberers" and other homosexual erotic fantasies that you muster up in your brain and resort to name calling because you have no leg to stand on and it frustrates you. It is what it is.
 

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I'm paying attention, Tell that to Dak and France. Did you not read the thread title? It was even on the news last night. He reportedly wants right behind Mahomes. He's not looking for "what the market allows", right behind Mahomes means he thinks he's the 2nd best QB and he wants 2nd highest money.
C'mon Rock, you know what's going on here. He's shooting for 40+ mil a year and there's only 1 guy in that bracket, that's Mahomes.
That's why there's no contract agreement, and rightfully so.
Isn't "What the market allows" right behind what Mahomes got? Watson got 39 million...isn't 40 million what's next?
 

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For some reason when I debate others on the subject matter and they bring facts to the table there's no problem. But when you do it there is? What makes you special? If we are being honest....there's not much you can say bad about Dak stats wise because he grades out well. The only thing you can do is bring up his W/L record or his bad games. You can't take his overall body of work and paint it to be negative because its not. So this is what you do. You resort to the "Dak slobberers" and other homosexual erotic fantasies that you muster up in your brain and resort to name calling because you have no leg to stand on and it frustrates you. It is what it is.

Interesting your assessment seeing as how you and a handful of others attack those that question re-signing Dak. I point out the downward trend of Dak regarding his W/L record, his stats against tougher teams, the fact the defense can't be blamed for everything, and other relevant information yet you and others call me and anyone else that questions Dak as haters, Dake love less, and liars, and other crap simply because you lack the ability to engage in an open, constructive debate done in an adult manner rather than soiling your knickers when confronted with information you do not approve of or wish to hear. Therefore, you keep behaving in the manner you choose as I have far more important and emotionally stable conversations to engage with members within this group.
 

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Interesting your assessment seeing as how you and a handful of others attack those that question re-signing Dak. I point out the downward trend of Dak regarding his W/L record, his stats against tougher teams, the fact the defense can't be blamed for everything, and other relevant information yet you and others call me and anyone else that questions Dak as haters, Dake love less, and liars, and other crap simply because you lack the ability to engage in an open, constructive debate done in an adult manner rather than soiling your knickers when confronted with information you do not approve of or wish to hear. Therefore, you keep behaving in the manner you choose as I have far more important and emotionally stable conversations to engage with members within this group.

Like I stated above, I've engaged with many people on this site on Dak and its been civil. There's a handful of posters like yourself that bring nothing to a debate other than biased opinions. A prime example.....this teams coaching sucked, defense sucked, special teams sucked.....yet in your mind Dak's responsible lol. That line of thinking is impossible to have a civil debate with because you lack the football knowledge to understand that this is a team game and its not just one person's fault just like its not one person's credit for a W. So if you can't understand something as simple as that then yeah we probably won't have a civil debate on the matter. Most of the guys like you on this site do it just to rile people up.
 

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Like I stated above, I've engaged with many people on this site on Dak and its been civil. There's a handful of posters like yourself that bring nothing to a debate other than biased opinions. A prime example.....this teams coaching sucked, defense sucked, special teams sucked.....yet in your mind Dak's responsible lol. That line of thinking is impossible to have a civil debate with because you lack the football knowledge to understand that this is a team game and its not just one person's fault just like its not one person's credit for a W. So if you can't understand something as simple as that then yeah we probably won't have a civil debate on the matter. Most of the guys like you on this site do it just to rile people up.
Yes, it's a team game, and that's why paying Dak 40 mil is a mistake. Need a team.
 

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Isn't "What the market allows" right behind what Mahomes got? Watson got 39 million...isn't 40 million what's next?
As I've been seeing it here and on the news, they're throwing the numbers around of 41 - 44 mil. Mahomes is 45 mil.
If a body believes Dak is the second best QB right behind Mahomes, you might get by with calling that the going market rate. Problem is, Mahomes has a resume sporting 2 Super Bowls. Dak doesn't. Not even close.
I like Dak, but I think he's going to have a real problem trying to convince ANY team that he's worth nearly as much as Mahomes. Maybe I'm wrong.
 

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Yes, it's a team game, and that's why paying Dak 40 mil is a mistake. Need a team.

The pay Dak crowd says this all the time but they are super hypcrotical when the don't pay Dak agrees with them.

I guess they think we can have both??? Jerry bringing football utopia to Dallas?
 

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Yes, it's a team game, and that's why paying Dak 40 mil is a mistake. Need a team.
Yes. But the salary cap isn't 40 million lol.....its almost 4 times that....plenty of money to "field a team" if that's your worry. You know what also costs you 40 million? Zeke, Jaylon Smith, La'El Collins, Everson Griffen, Gerald McCoy, Dontari Poe and Ha Ha Clinton Dix. What a great collection of talent that contributed so much last year.
 

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As I've been seeing it here and on the news, they're throwing the numbers around of 41 - 44 mil. Mahomes is 45 mil.
If a body believes Dak is the second best QB right behind Mahomes, you might get by with calling that the going market rate. Problem is, Mahomes has a resume sporting 2 Super Bowls. Dak doesn't.
I think Dak's going to have a problem trying to convince ANY team that he's worth nearly as much as Mahomes. Maybe I'm wrong.
Contracts like that strap a team. It's going to be interesting going forward what happens in KC.
 

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Yes. But the salary cap isn't 40 million lol.....its almost 4 times that....plenty of money to "field a team" if that's your worry. You know what also costs you 40 million? Zeke, Jaylon Smith, La'El Collins, Everson Griffen, Gerald McCoy, Dontari Poe and Ha Ha Clinton Dix. What a great collection of talent that contributed so much last year.
I don't understand your argument. You're saying we should overpay Dak since we overpaid others?
 

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The pay Dak crowd says this all the time but they are super hypcrotical when the don't pay Dak agrees with them.

I guess they think we can have both??? Jerry bringing football utopia to Dallas?
Yep. If I didn't think they could do both then I'd agree with you guys. But I see no reason why they can't still field a team with Dak's salary. That's simply an excuse and a cop out for Jerry and co.
 

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I'm paying attention, Tell that to Dak and France. Did you not read the thread title? It was even on the news last night. He reportedly wants right behind Mahomes. He's not looking for "what the market allows", right behind Mahomes means he thinks he's the 2nd best QB and he wants 2nd highest money.
C'mon Rock, you know what's going on here. He's shooting for 40+ mil a year and there's only 1 guy in that bracket, that's Mahomes.
That's why there's no contract agreement, and rightfully so.
Not Dak but Dak's agent so the title is not true.
 
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