Thoughts opinions of the 3 DL Signings this week

[Cowboyny]

Watkins-I believe he fills that 4T LE role in our base defense. This spot in Quinn's scheme is more like a 3-4 DE that anchors and holds up multiple blockers. He certainly can play a little 1T in a pinch as well.

Urban-another 3-4 Defensive Lineman who has starting experience. Think he fills that Tyrone Crawford Role. Can play inside/outside, known more as a high motor run defender.

Basham-might be the Aldon Smith replacement and an upgrade over Armstrong as the #3 DE. Many think he was not used correctly as a stand up Edge rusher, where he is better suited as a down pass rusher. More of an upside pick.

These are more role player, rotational types that improve our depth. Behind the starters, we either have young prospects or undrafted fa's. These moves were necessary and could make a difference in the long run.

 

[texbumthelife]

They provide better depth than we had last season without moving the needle as starters, really. If the Cowboys are going back to a frequent DL rotation, these guys will pay dividends.

 

[blueblood70]

Watkins-I believe he fills that 4T LE role in our base defense. This spot in Quinn's scheme is more like a 3-4 DE that anchors and holds up multiple blockers. He certainly can play a little 1T in a pinch as well.

Urban-another 3-4 Defensive Lineman who has starting experience. Think he fills that Tyrone Crawford Role. Can play inside/outside, known more as a high motor run defender.

Basham-might be the Aldon Smith replacement and an upgrade over Armstrong as the #3 DE. Many think he was not used correctly as a stand up Edge rusher, where he is better suited as a down pass rusher. More of an upside pick.

These are more role player, rotational types that improve our depth. Behind the starters, we either have young prospects or undrafted fa's. These moves were necessary and could make a difference in the long run.

agree^^

good rotational role guys to add to Hill, Gallimore, RG and Dlaw..we still have the draft to add another.

 

[tm1119]

Signing quality depth- good

Signing quality depth without having quality starters- not so good

 

[blueblood70]

They provide better depth than we had last season without moving the needle as starters, really. If the Cowboys are going back to a frequent DL rotation, these guys will pay dividends.

its tough in todays nfl to rotate as frequently as a DC truly wants as Offenses playing hurry up a lot and of they dont sub,, you cant sub..that my opinion on why it seems lie less of a rotation.

 

[panchucko]

My thought they signed defensive players so they will go offense in draft Maybe that TE that most know about

 

[Sydla]

its tough in todays nfl to rotate as frequently as a DC truly wants as Offenses playing hurry up a lot and of they dont sub,, you cant sub..that my opinion on why it seems lie less of a rotation.

Carrying this logic then wouldn't it make sense to have really, really good starters that can give great play than to just build a DT rotation of situational and back up type DTs, which we seem to be doing?

 

[blueblood70]

My thought they signed defensive players so they will go offense in draft Maybe that TE that most know about

no they still need a LB, CB, S and well still a future DL but the DL being weak in this years Draft is why they got 3 DL so far....

no way they take offense at 10 they would trade down 3-4 spots before they do that and still get a corner and S or LB because of the trade..

 

[Mr_437]

Watkins-I believe he fills that 4T LE role in our base defense. This spot in Quinn's scheme is more like a 3-4 DE that anchors and holds up multiple blockers. He certainly can play a little 1T in a pinch as well.

Urban-another 3-4 Defensive Lineman who has starting experience. Think he fills that Tyrone Crawford Role. Can play inside/outside, known more as a high motor run defender.

Basham-might be the Aldon Smith replacement and an upgrade over Armstrong as the #3 DE. Many think he was not used correctly as a stand up Edge rusher, where he is better suited as a down pass rusher. More of an upside pick.

These are more role player, rotational types that improve our depth. Behind the starters, we either have young prospects or undrafted fa's. These moves were necessary and could make a difference in the long run.

This team needed a soild run stopper or three on the DL, and Urban is a good fit for Quinn's 4Tech position...6-7 300...that's what I'm talking about.

Dorance Armstrong was the #3 Edge Rusher before Basham was signed, so DE was a major need and they, at least, got decent player.

I liked Watkins coming out of Clemson, and I hope he is better than the last Texan DL to come through.

I feel you got an upgrade of TyCraw, over Armstrong, and took a chance on a guy who can play 4T, 1T or 3T. However, I won't feel good about what they've done until a legit NT is in the building.

 

[Bobhaze]

Carrying this logic then wouldn't it make sense to have really, really good starters that can give great play than to just build a DT rotation of situational and back up type DTs, which we seem to be doing?

Applying logic when it comes to defensive players with this FO is difficult. For last decade and a half, this organization has seemingly made the S and interior DL positions the least important to find talent. It’s mystifying at best.

 

[Sydla]

no they still need a LB, CB, S and well still a future DL but the DL being weak in this years Draft is why they got 3 DL so far....

no way they take offense at 10 they would trade down 3-4 spots before they do that and still get a corner and S or LB because of the trade..

So the draft is weak on DTs so our plan was to go out and bring in three bottom tier type DL to solve our DL problems?

If that's the FO's thinking, wow.

 

[Bobhaze]

So the draft is weak on DTs so our plan was to go out and bring in three bottom tier type DL to solve our DL problems?

If that's the FO's thinking, wow.

If our FO consistently believes that they can field a solid defense without putting much capital in the interior DL and S positions, we may have a long wait for a defense that can win in the playoffs.

 

[visionary]

These are the usual place filler slop signings this FO does every year to justify what they did

total garbage

we need 2 starting DTs

 

[fivetwos]

Watkins-I believe he fills that 4T LE role in our base defense. This spot in Quinn's scheme is more like a 3-4 DE that anchors and holds up multiple blockers. He certainly can play a little 1T in a pinch as well.

Urban-another 3-4 Defensive Lineman who has starting experience. Think he fills that Tyrone Crawford Role. Can play inside/outside, known more as a high motor run defender.

Basham-might be the Aldon Smith replacement and an upgrade over Armstrong as the #3 DE. Many think he was not used correctly as a stand up Edge rusher, where he is better suited as a down pass rusher. More of an upside pick.

These are more role player, rotational types that improve our depth. Behind the starters, we either have young prospects or undrafted fa's. These moves were necessary and could make a difference in the long run.

Been meaning to ask where you think Jerry's buddy Armstrong may fit within the Quinn scheme.

 

[coach steele]

Watkins-I believe he fills that 4T LE role in our base defense. This spot in Quinn's scheme is more like a 3-4 DE that anchors and holds up multiple blockers. He certainly can play a little 1T in a pinch as well.

Urban-another 3-4 Defensive Lineman who has starting experience. Think he fills that Tyrone Crawford Role. Can play inside/outside, known more as a high motor run defender.

Basham-might be the Aldon Smith replacement and an upgrade over Armstrong as the #3 DE. Many think he was not used correctly as a stand up Edge rusher, where he is better suited as a down pass rusher. More of an upside pick.

These are more role player, rotational types that improve our depth. Behind the starters, we either have young prospects or undrafted fa's. These moves were necessary and could make a difference in the long run.

I like Urban and Basham. I don’t know much about Watkins other than what I’ve heard (was a 4th rounder from Clemson who played out of place in this league). I am excited to see Gregory and Laurence. It would be nice if we could get some push up the middle and also some DT’s to help our linebackers stop the run.

 

[fivetwos]

So the draft is weak on DTs so our plan was to go out and bring in three bottom tier type DL to solve our DL problems?

If that's the FO's thinking, wow.

I think its weak as far as producing the next Donald or Jones but the middle round two down player types are there.

I'm fairly sure they feel like they can add one or two of those.....and it very well may be a case of Quinn telling them he can work with that.

That's what I'm hoping anyway.

 

[9darter]

A waste of three roster spots.

Just some random players bereft of any real talent.

You will all want them replaced again before too long.

 

[jblaze2004]

Dollar tree shopping at its best.

 

[gimmesix]

Watkins-I believe he fills that 4T LE role in our base defense. This spot in Quinn's scheme is more like a 3-4 DE that anchors and holds up multiple blockers. He certainly can play a little 1T in a pinch as well.

Urban-another 3-4 Defensive Lineman who has starting experience. Think he fills that Tyrone Crawford Role. Can play inside/outside, known more as a high motor run defender.

Basham-might be the Aldon Smith replacement and an upgrade over Armstrong as the #3 DE. Many think he was not used correctly as a stand up Edge rusher, where he is better suited as a down pass rusher. More of an upside pick.

These are more role player, rotational types that improve our depth. Behind the starters, we either have young prospects or undrafted fa's. These moves were necessary and could make a difference in the long run.

I can't help but think we might see Basham as a Leo. Of course, Gregory could also be used in that role.

"Really, the thing you're looking for at that (Leo) position is speed and length," Quinn said. "Length doesn't necessarily mean that you're 6-foot-6, but you do have long arms, you can separate, and as a pass rusher, you want to have enough length that a guy doesn't engulf you.."

I agree on both Watkins and Urban, both could be seen as left ends in run packages.

 

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