Surtain ran 4.42-4.45

How did they time it? Hand timed, laser timed, electric timed? I mean if they timed it the same way the combine timed it, what's your beef?
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So realistically a low 4.5s guy which is expected but he didn’t do the short area quickness drills?

This is about what I expected so doesn’t change much for me. Love the player, hate the idea of drafting him at 10.
 
What I think of when I see some of these Pro Day times:

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:huh::huh: .....you lost me. So you're taking his official pro day time and converting it to your own calculated time????
No one has a faster combine time than pro day. Guys who ran 4.39 at pro days like mo and revis ran 4.50 at the combine.
 
Mosher breaking it down.



And let's call his 40 time 4.50, that'd be 48th percentile. At face value, his 4.42 time is 80th percentile.

The 40 is about what I expected or a little faster. But I did not see those explosion numbers coming at all.


So breaking this down what are you saying ?
 
his instincts and technique are what makes him so special. Your not drafting him because he won the 40 yard dash underwear Olympics.Draft him at 10 and you got a pro bowler.

Wellllll I was hoping he was right there with Bullet Bob Hayes
 
I'd say Surtain being a 4.50 guy is credible, give or take a tick. Not a high-octane time but nothing that will drop his draft stock either.

His 39" vert and 10'11" broad jump though ARE high octane, and compare pretty well with Xavier Rhodes and Jalen Ramsey.

Didn't they both run low 4.4s at the combine. I wish they could of did some type of combine to have more relative data.
 
His 40 time doesn’t even matter, the guy has elite football instincts and IQ.
^^ bingo. EXACTLY what I been saying. The 40 time is just antics. It doesnt matter if your a sound FB player. This dude is a cant miss stud. theres only about 5 in this entire draft. Surtain, Lawrence, Slater,Sewell, and Zaven Collins. Love Richie grant tho..
 

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