Cowboys believe biggest reason for defensive improvement will be Dan Quinn

[JBS]

All of yall are lying to yourselves

If this defense improves and they still suck and we win 8 games and miss the playoffs, none of you guys will look at that as a success..and why the hell would you? Stop lying

 

[805BoysInBlue]

Welp, looks like the snake oil salesman has pulled into town once again fellas. Get ready for them to start selling hope once again as the season is upon us.

 

[phildadon86]

Anything will be better than Nolan however I would temper the enthusiasm. Have a look at Atlanta’s defensive rankings during DQ’s time as head coach 2015-2020. Not good. Not good at all. He had good defenses in Seattle during 2013 and 2014. That was a special group though. This is typical Dallas crap of over selling coaches to distract and create false hope.

I really dont think Quinn was in charge of player acquisition though. Just my opinion. If you look at the draft capital spent during the Quinn years its not defense heavy. Also. He did make it to a Superbowl as a HC. So . Say what you want about his defense but it was obviously good enough to get to the dance. Until boy wonder Kyle screwed it up.

 

[Whyjerry]

I really dont think Quinn was in charge of player acquisition though. Just my opinion. If you look at the draft capital spent during the Quinn years its not defense heavy. Also. He did make it to a Superbowl as a HC. So . Say what you want about his defense but it was obviously good enough to get to the dance. Until boy wonder Kyle screwed it up.

I was just pointing out that the record was not spectacular.

 

[The Quest for Six]

Two player on the Cowboys defense that could start on other teams. D-law and Diggs......I think there's a lack of talent problem on the Dallas defense more than coaching

 

[Trajan]

Jerry delivered the most talented team last year, it was bad coaching that prevent his super bowl. If these loser coaches can't turn these scrubs into pro-bowl players, Jerry should take over coaching duties and show how it is done.

 

[Risen Star]

What a disaster this offseason is.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

Gonna be a juggernaut like those Dan Quinn Falcons defenses.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

What a disaster this offseason is.

Not over yet...

 

[kumizi]

Then why the bleep did they let the fat idiot hire Nolan?

 

[JBS]

What a disaster every offseason and season is.

Fixed it

 

[fivetwos]

Anything will be better than Nolan however I would temper the enthusiasm. Have a look at Atlanta’s defensive rankings during DQ’s time as head coach 2015-2020. Not good. Not good at all. He had good defenses in Seattle during 2013 and 2014. That was a special group though. This is typical Dallas crap of over selling coaches to distract and create false hope.

Bingo!

Nailed it.

Quinn is NOT some miracle worker who will excel with bad players.

This has been proven.

Jerry was probably infatuated w the SB appearance like he was with MM, and got sold yet again.

They will probably both be gone after two miserable years.

I hope I'm somehow wrong, but that's all it really is and all we ever have.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

Quinn is NOT some miracle worker who will excel with bad players.

This has been proven.

Baby steps...

 

[Aven8]

Lol, this is exactly what a lot of us thought the FO would say when we went into FA and got role players.

“Daddy our players are really good. They just aren’t being coached correctly......” - S Jones

 

[pgreptom]

and thus our downfall

Jerry is such a joke GM. talent. that's the problem, talent on the defensive side of the ball.

 

[Majic]

The warning signs are there:

1) 'We just need the DEF to be competent because our Offence is so good'
2) We just need better effort not some complicated scheme. (Suggests players are not intelligent enough to learn or simply don't want to)
3) Quinn was in Seattle for 2 seasons and inherited that DEF that was successful. Was it the coaching or the talent that made it so successful?
4) A better way to judge him would be Atlanta when he got to 'buy the groceries'. It did not work out well.

 

[Sydla]

I mean, yeah, Nolan was trash. But the reality is the Jones boys typically think their roster construction is really good and it's another force that is holding back it's greatness. So last year wasn't even remotely close to a talent issue, it was solely, 100% due to Nolan.

That's what they tell themselves when they ham and egg it at DT and S again.

 

[Jake]

All this is saying is that the defense last year was too overly complicated and that they are expecting a more simplified approach with Quinn and a full offseason will net better results. There is no reason for negativity on this one, it make a lot of sense and we should be hopeful for improvement.

If this defense ends up in the 15-20 range then they will be good enough to compete most weeks and that seems pretty reasonable with 1) full offseaon 2) good draft and 3) better coaching.

I've seen several times over recent days that we just need "the 2019 defense" or "a defense in the 15-20 range" and, at best, that might win you the East.

The last 9 SB champs were top 10 in points allowed. Every Cowboys SB champ was top 10 in points allowed.

Talk about Brady and Mahomes all you like but they didn't win SBs with "a defense in the top 15-20 range" so it's kind of foolish to expect Dak to do it.

 

[INCowboysFan]

The warning signs are there:

1) 'We just need the DEF to be competent because our Offence is so good'
2) We just need better effort not some complicated scheme. (Suggests players are not intelligent enough to learn or simply don't want to)
3) Quinn was in Seattle for 2 seasons and inherited that DEF that was successful. Was it the coaching or the talent that made it so successful?
4) A better way to judge him would be Atlanta when he got to 'buy the groceries'. It did not work out well.

Except Thomas Dimitroff bought the groceries, not Dan Quinn

 

[Jipper]

I've seen several times over recent days that we just need "the 2019 defense" or "a defense in the 15-20 range" and, at best, that might win you the East.

The last 9 SB champs were top 10 in points allowed. Every Cowboys SB champ was top 10 in points allowed.

Talk about Brady and Mahomes all you like but they didn't win SBs with "a defense in the top 15-20 range" so it's kind of foolish to expect Dak to do it.

Difference in saying sb versus what I said is being able to compete in most games...which we will in 2021 if we have a 15-20 defense

I don’t expect anything more than improvement over last year and a shot at the nfce