The Argument For Drafting a QB With the 10 Pick

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

Playing devil's advocate, okay?

Please no insults and no references to my intelligence or lack thereof.....Nah, never mind!...Asking for mercy is just pouring gasoline on a fire.

Three times in the past 11 seasons the starting QB went down early in the season and it was all over, crash and burn. It would have been four seasons but a fourth round draft choice miraculously had one of the best rookie seasons in history, who expected that?

The Cowboys rolled out a slew of backups, mostly average quarterbacks when they were in their prime. Sometimes they were on one year contracts meaning that, even if they had a good showing, they were gone the following season.

Why not kill two birds with one stone? Draft a top tier QB, if the starter goes down, the rookie gets experience. He could be a legitimate starter the following season in which case the Cowboys trade one of them. Furthermore, when a player gets paid they seem to have the tendency to play soft that season. A legitimate talent backing him up could put a little fire to Dak's backside.

The rookie salary cap allows the Cowboys to draft a QB in the top ten, I think.

You could draft a productive non-QB player in the top ten but what difference would that make if Dak is injured again or if he performs poorly? Look at the value of good young quarterbacks these days. If the Cowboys cultivate a young QB while he serves as a quality backup, the Cowboys could end up with a trade reaping great value for their future.

Look at the history of the Cowboys successful seasons. Where there not two legitimate starters?....Lebaron/Meredith...Staubach/Morton....Staubach/White....Even Roger Staubach once revealed that a reason for his success was how hard he competed with Danny White, knowing how good his competition was. Jimmy Johnson drafted two QB's #1 overall in his first season, giving up the #1 overall pick in 1990 for taking Steve Walsh in the supplemental draft. Jimmy valued competition.

Ok....let 'er rip!

You have to know it's coming, this will be like the Battle of Little Big Horn for you my friend and you are General George Custer.

 

[Rockport]

Lets be nice to our fellow zone members! You need to be benched!!!!

No anyone who sf advocates picking a QB with the #10 pick needs to be benched. Let’s be real.

 

[TequilaCowboy]

Too late. old fellow, We are stuck with Dak for a while.
1. A QB. Early. At this stage? St, Vitticus Coriander!!! It makes little sense vis-à-visis (A Manchester word) and Dak's fragile (An Italian word) ego.
Moneywise it makes sense,vis-à-vis a rookie's salary... but ..
2. WE HAVE CRITICAL OTHER NEEDS VIS-à-VIS OL, LB,CORNER, SAFETY ETC (A KENYAN WORD)

Thanks GTB, ....now i "feel lower than a crippled cricket's a**" a moron Jerry's words, who hardly ever makes sense even sober.

 

[Mannix]

Mannix was a great show in 1967. Crawl back up into you’re cocoon and be quiet.

When I want your opinion, I’ll beat it oughta you.

 

[Hardline]

The Cowboys are married to Dak.

 

[EST_1986]

No

 

[Jake]

Playing devil's advocate, okay?

The time to do that was last year. The Jones Boys committed to Dak in big dollars. Drafting another QB at 10 would be a waste since Dak's going nowhere.

Draft someone to improve the rest of the team and hope for the best.

 

[Redsfan_83]

The NFL has a recent history of 1st rd qb failures. Outside of Lawrence, the consensus from people smarting than me is that any qb after him is a shot in the dark. Even for him, the Jags better build a team around him or he will also be lumped into that historical fact. Again, history proves this correct in regards to the 1st rd.

If you are picking late in the 1st rd, you can try to pull off what the Iggles and Pack have done, but look at how their qb picks late in the 1st neglected to fix holes they clearly had/still have.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Thanks GTB, ....now i "feel lower than a crippled cricket's a**" a moron Jerry's words, who hardly ever makes sense even sober.

I checked around. You are a nobody.

 

[plasticman]

@plasticman The Packers did something similar last year when they drafted QB Love. It torqued Rodgers off. Had the Packers drafted a player like WR Jefferson or another productive player in the first instead of a QB who sat the bench, they may have been SB champs.

Unfortunately, the team is stuck with Dak and his mega contract. Wasting time and money drafting a QB now.

Yes, this upset Rodgers. How did he respond?

Aaron Rodgers had his best passer rating in 10 years and 2nd best in his entire career, over 16 points higher than his previous 5 seasons. Again, nothing like competition to reinvigorate and inspire a player.

Again, just playing devil's advocate. You and other posters are making some worthy points.

 

[plasticman]

Dak's deal was for 4-years 160 million. You want to add a top ten QB deal to that too? Maybe you want to move up to do this too? lol.

The Cowboys and Prescott agreed Monday to a four-year, $160 million extension, two people with knowledge of the contract told USA TODAY Sports. The people spoke on condition of anonymity since the team doesn’t publicly disclose terms. Prescott is guaranteed $126 million, including an NFL-record $66 million signing bonus. In total, he’ll net $75 million in 2021 – more than double his collective salary across his first five professional seasons.

Here's some of their recent salaries:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtba...ua-and-chase-young-will-make/?sh=53db8a785be3

PICK TEAM PLAYER TOTAL CONTRACT SIGNING BONUS
1 Bengals Joe Burrow $36.0 million $23.9 million
2 Commanders Chase Young $34.6 million $22.7 million
3 Lions Jeff Okudah $33.5 million $21.9 million
4 Giants Andrew Thomas $32.3 million $21.1 million
5 Dolphins Tua Tagovailoa $30.3 million $19.6 million
6 Chargers Justin Herbert $26.6 million $16.9 million
7 Panthers Derrick Brown $23.6 million $14.7 million
8 Cardinals Isaiah Simmons $20.7 million $12.6 million
9 Jaguars CJ Henderson $20.5 million $12.5 million
10 Browns Jedrick Wills Jr. $19.7 million $11.9 million

I would have to say that if those are rookie contracts and close to what Cowboys would have to pay then, yeah, I'm out. I didn't realize rookie contracts could go that high for a QB drafted #10 overall.

Again, I'm super bored and was just looking for conversation, not to say the idea is totally without merit but the negatives win out. Personally, I would trade down. If a QB is available at #10 somebody is going to want to jump up and I hope Jerry makes them pay big.

 

[plasticman]

Okay, so let me switch the subject......

The Cowboys are up with the #10 overall pick. Surtain is gone. So is Pitts. There is one of those five QB's still on the board. The phone is ringing off the wall.....what can we get for this pick?

Obviously, it depends on the draft position of our trade partner but I would hope for their #1 plus their #1 in 2022 for starters. depending on how far down the Cowboys go, I would also want their 2nd or 3rd....realistic?

 

[Cowpolk]

Too late. old fellow, We are stuck with Dak for a while.
1. A QB. Early. At this stage? St, Vitticus Coriander!!! It makes little sense vis-à-visis (A Manchester word) and Dak's fragile (An Italian word) ego.
Moneywise it makes sense,vis-à-vis a rookie's salary... but ..
2. WE HAVE CRITICAL OTHER NEEDS VIS-à-VIS OL, LB,CORNER, SAFETY ETC (A KENYAN WORD)

Could you please repeat it in Klingon so I can read it!

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Could you please repeat it in Klingon so I can read it!

heh

 

[T-RO]

For months now, I've been touting the fact that Trey Lance has the biggest upside of every QB in the draft....this fact has finally gained legs this week in the national media.

Uh...no. Lance has been very highly regarded by many for quite some time now. Suddenly "This week"? You are paying zero attention.

But I give you full permission to pat yourself on the back. Maybe you are ahead of some.

 

[T-RO]

As for the OP's thinking...By the time the 10th pick comes...4, probably 5 QBs will be off the board. But maybe we should keep an eye open in later rounds for someone like Mond or Mills if they fall deep.

 

[JoeKing]

@plasticman The Packers did something similar last year when they drafted QB Love. It torqued Rodgers off. Had the Packers drafted a player like WR Jefferson or another productive player in the first instead of a QB who sat the bench, they may have been SB champs.

Unfortunately, the team is stuck with Dak and his mega contract. Wasting time and money drafting a QB now.

It torqed Rodgers off so bad that he now wants to be the full-time host of the TV game show, Jeopardy.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Mannix was a great show in 1967. Crawl back up into you’re cocoon and be quiet.

Mannix was so cool he ALWAYS found a parking place in front of buildings he visited.

 

[robertfchew]

Here's my thinking

If a highly valuable QB falls to 10, you trade.

If you can't find someone making a good deal, it's because they're bargaining with NY picking at 11 instead because they don't believe we'll take the QB.

So screw it. Take the QB and force people to come to you. Develop him in the meantime.

QBs are just so valuable that a promising but unknown prospect is going to pay off for you one way or another. Sam Darnold did as much busting as you can do in a few years with the Jets and NY still got 3 picks back. Make a guy like Lance look good in week 17 and you'll make a killing next offseason.

And if you can't manage to trade him then he's got 4 years to learn under Dak I guess, so we don't end up paying Dak 60M/yr in 2025. We've already given up the option to tag or trade Dak at any point so we'll get fleeced next time too unless we have another option.

But that's not gonna happen. You take Lance or whoever at 10 and you'll have multiple firsts in your pocket by day's end

I actually can agree with this. Especially if next years qb class is as bad as they are saying. Look at what some of these proven loser qb's are fetching on the trade market. Wentz horrid contract cant stay healthy cant win without elite talent around him, Goff horrid contract cant win without elite everything around him, Stafford proven loser had a hof wr and top picks all over the team and he still couldn't win anything. Darnold his career highlight is beating the cowboys. Supposedly the 9ers want a 1 for goropollo.

 

[CATCH17]

Absolutely not.

You paid Dak 40 million and gave him a no trade clause as well.