The Argument For Drafting a QB With the 10 Pick

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Playing devil's advocate, okay?

Please no insults and no references to my intelligence or lack thereof.....Nah, never mind!...Asking for mercy is just pouring gasoline on a fire.

Three times in the past 11 seasons the starting QB went down early in the season and it was all over, crash and burn. It would have been four seasons but a fourth round draft choice miraculously had one of the best rookie seasons in history, who expected that?

The Cowboys rolled out a slew of backups, mostly average quarterbacks when they were in their prime. Sometimes they were on one year contracts meaning that, even if they had a good showing, they were gone the following season.

Why not kill two birds with one stone? Draft a top tier QB, if the starter goes down, the rookie gets experience. He could be a legitimate starter the following season in which case the Cowboys trade one of them. Furthermore, when a player gets paid they seem to have the tendency to play soft that season. A legitimate talent backing him up could put a little fire to Dak's backside.

The rookie salary cap allows the Cowboys to draft a QB in the top ten, I think.

You could draft a productive non-QB player in the top ten but what difference would that make if Dak is injured again or if he performs poorly? Look at the value of good young quarterbacks these days. If the Cowboys cultivate a young QB while he serves as a quality backup, the Cowboys could end up with a trade reaping great value for their future.

Look at the history of the Cowboys successful seasons. Where there not two legitimate starters?....Lebaron/Meredith...Staubach/Morton....Staubach/White....Even Roger Staubach once revealed that a reason for his success was how hard he competed with Danny White, knowing how good his competition was. Jimmy Johnson drafted two QB's #1 overall in his first season, giving up the #1 overall pick in 1990 for taking Steve Walsh in the supplemental draft. Jimmy valued competition.

Ok....let 'er rip!
I agree with what your saying, but most here wont get it.
It doesnt have to be a first round pick, I suggested trask if he falls out of first round.
It would give dallas a cheap but better bkup. He also could be valuable trade material in future. Or he might prove to be the next starter.

Fans ignore stuff like dak getting hurt again, or just not playing well etc, to them dak will be exactly the same as the day he got hurt :rolleyes:
Maybe he will be , but maybe he wont.

Dallas has 10 picks, spending one on a good qb prospect is smart imo.
Dont have to go high, as most of those guys turn out to be busts or so so, but dont want to go too low either.

That being said I dont think jones boys will draft a qb, they are not that smart, and they dont want a controversy, or any fire lit under dak.
I would be shocked if they took one round 3 or up.:omg:
 

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DUDE, the Cowboys just signed Dak to a Multi-year contract! Turn the key off and get the hell out of the garage before it’s too late. Jeez, this place never ceases to amaze.
I agree. I can see the OP's devil's advocate point. But we have so many holes on this team that taking a player in a position that is solidified would be wasteful.

If Dak goes down then that's the season but that's also the same risk every team has with their QB or any other really vital player.

Drafting out of fear is a worse idea than drafting for need.

Again I see the OP's point but what a waste that would be if our 1st rounder and 10th overall never sees the field cuz Dak stays healthy.
 

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Playing devil's advocate, okay?

Please no insults and no references to my intelligence or lack thereof.....Nah, never mind!...Asking for mercy is just pouring gasoline on a fire.

Three times in the past 11 seasons the starting QB went down early in the season and it was all over, crash and burn. It would have been four seasons but a fourth round draft choice miraculously had one of the best rookie seasons in history, who expected that?

The Cowboys rolled out a slew of backups, mostly average quarterbacks when they were in their prime. Sometimes they were on one year contracts meaning that, even if they had a good showing, they were gone the following season.

Why not kill two birds with one stone? Draft a top tier QB, if the starter goes down, the rookie gets experience. He could be a legitimate starter the following season in which case the Cowboys trade one of them. Furthermore, when a player gets paid they seem to have the tendency to play soft that season. A legitimate talent backing him up could put a little fire to Dak's backside.

The rookie salary cap allows the Cowboys to draft a QB in the top ten, I think.

You could draft a productive non-QB player in the top ten but what difference would that make if Dak is injured again or if he performs poorly? Look at the value of good young quarterbacks these days. If the Cowboys cultivate a young QB while he serves as a quality backup, the Cowboys could end up with a trade reaping great value for their future.

Look at the history of the Cowboys successful seasons. Where there not two legitimate starters?....Lebaron/Meredith...Staubach/Morton....Staubach/White....Even Roger Staubach once revealed that a reason for his success was how hard he competed with Danny White, knowing how good his competition was. Jimmy Johnson drafted two QB's #1 overall in his first season, giving up the #1 overall pick in 1990 for taking Steve Walsh in the supplemental draft. Jimmy valued competition.

Ok....let 'er rip!
Why is this draft so intriguing?
Jerry just payed off the "franchise QB" mortgage of 160 million.
Jerry will not be taking a QB with the 10th overall.
Jerry has an inferiority complex... ok,, that was just me being an *** hole
This is actually a waste of a thread, I shouldnt have responded to.
No offense OP... not personally,,, just saying Jerry didnt just pay Dak to draft a QB, thats Jerrys worst nightmare at 10 scenario, but as a fan base,, we love 5 QBSs possibly going before ten,, Jerry loves it even more.
 

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If there is a legitimate franchise QB available, they would be dumb to pass him up. Anything other than taking a TE.
Well lets do the math,, you know that the top 3 are all gone,, can we agree on that.
4 are extremely probable before 10.
Mac Jones is the is the 5,, he is the man in this draft for this 2021 Cowboys draft,,, not that we draft him but just how much this guy swings everything at 10.
If MJ is there the phone is ringing.
IF MJ is gone, than that means 5 QBS went in the top nine.
Cowboys in overload mode setting at ten either way.
Good year to hold the 10 slot.
 

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There might be some years when drafting a QB with the #10 pick would be justified -- it just isn't this one. Our defense needs help right now, in the worst possible way. Drafting a QB with our first round pick, this year, would be highly impractical. Many urgent defensive needs surely make it so. ;)
 
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An insult in this thread would be an insult to everyone’s intelligence
 

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If Trevor Lawrence falls to ten we should absolutely should take him.
 

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It makes sense to draft a QB high. If the top 2-3 QBs are gone by 10, then think about trading down for extra picks and take a development prospect in the 2nd.

Nothing is forever in the NFL. You always need 2 options at QB.

The reality is that Dak has 2 years to deliver. If he doesnt, he will be benched in year 3 and realistically can be cut in the offseason between 3 and 4. So we may need a QB in 2 years time - a cheap rookie contract with 3 years to run is a nice option.

Then we have the usual variables.

Any player can get a season ending injury. QB is too important to have no options.

Cowboys players' history of sitting back once paid.

Dak may not be the same after injury.

No matter how things work out a 1st or 2nd round QB will retain most of their trade value for at least 2-3 years if Dak works out.
 

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Playing devil's advocate, okay?

Please no insults and no references to my intelligence or lack thereof.....Nah, never mind!...Asking for mercy is just pouring gasoline on a fire.

Three times in the past 11 seasons the starting QB went down early in the season and it was all over, crash and burn. It would have been four seasons but a fourth round draft choice miraculously had one of the best rookie seasons in history, who expected that?

The Cowboys rolled out a slew of backups, mostly average quarterbacks when they were in their prime. Sometimes they were on one year contracts meaning that, even if they had a good showing, they were gone the following season.

Why not kill two birds with one stone? Draft a top tier QB, if the starter goes down, the rookie gets experience. He could be a legitimate starter the following season in which case the Cowboys trade one of them. Furthermore, when a player gets paid they seem to have the tendency to play soft that season. A legitimate talent backing him up could put a little fire to Dak's backside.

The rookie salary cap allows the Cowboys to draft a QB in the top ten, I think.

You could draft a productive non-QB player in the top ten but what difference would that make if Dak is injured again or if he performs poorly? Look at the value of good young quarterbacks these days. If the Cowboys cultivate a young QB while he serves as a quality backup, the Cowboys could end up with a trade reaping great value for their future.

Look at the history of the Cowboys successful seasons. Where there not two legitimate starters?....Lebaron/Meredith...Staubach/Morton....Staubach/White....Even Roger Staubach once revealed that a reason for his success was how hard he competed with Danny White, knowing how good his competition was. Jimmy Johnson drafted two QB's #1 overall in his first season, giving up the #1 overall pick in 1990 for taking Steve Walsh in the supplemental draft. Jimmy valued competition.

Ok....let 'er rip!

Dallas is stuck with Dak for at least 3 seasons.

Dak can’t be tagged, so the 4th would be his last with us.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/dak-prescott-19089/
 

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@plasticman The Packers did something similar last year when they drafted QB Love. It torqued Rodgers off. Had the Packers drafted a player like WR Jefferson or another productive player in the first instead of a QB who sat the bench, they may have been SB champs.

Unfortunately, the team is stuck with Dak and his mega contract. Wasting time and money drafting a QB now.

ARodgers time with the Pack could be ending soon too.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/green-bay-packers/aaron-rodgers-3745/
 

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It makes sense to draft a QB high. If the top 2-3 QBs are gone by 10, then think about trading down for extra picks and take a development prospect in the 2nd.

Nothing is forever in the NFL. You always need 2 options at QB.

The reality is that Dak has 2 years to deliver. If he doesnt, he will be benched in year 3 and realistically can be cut in the offseason between 3 and 4. So we may need a QB in 2 years time - a cheap rookie contract with 3 years to run is a nice option.

Then we have the usual variables.

Any player can get a season ending injury. QB is too important to have no options.

Cowboys players' history of sitting back once paid.

Dak may not be the same after injury.

No matter how things work out a 1st or 2nd round QB will retain most of their trade value for at least 2-3 years if Dak works out.

agree.

Zeke, TSmith, DLaw, and Martin will be at the end of their careers too.

I think we have a 2 year window.
 

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Mannix was so cool he ALWAYS found a parking place in front of buildings he visited.

Mannix was the show with Peggy. Was coming on TV Land after Cannon both would come on at 1am and 2am. I would taped them and my wife would ask why I was taping old shows and I told her they don't make good T.V. like this now.
 

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DUDE, the Cowboys just signed Dak to a Multi-year contract! Turn the key off and get the hell out of the garage before it’s too late. Jeez, this place never ceases to amaze.
That almost sounds reasonable except that QB injuries, just like the rest of the team injuries, are prevalent. One of the Cowboys constant problems is lack of depth for injured starters. We need a good backup/starter to replace Dak. And yeah, why did we spend all that money on Dak?
 

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Well lets do the math,, you know that the top 3 are all gone,, can we agree on that.
4 are extremely probable before 10.
Mac Jones is the is the 5,, he is the man in this draft for this 2021 Cowboys draft,,, not that we draft him but just how much this guy swings everything at 10.
If MJ is there the phone is ringing.
IF MJ is gone, than that means 5 QBS went in the top nine.
Cowboys in overload mode setting at ten either way.
Good year to hold the 10 slot.


Agreed. If a QB is there, trade down or take him.
 

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I agree with what your saying, but most here wont get it.
It doesnt have to be a first round pick, I suggested trask if he falls out of first round.
It would give dallas a cheap but better bkup. He also could be valuable trade material in future. Or he might prove to be the next starter.

Fans ignore stuff like dak getting hurt again, or just not playing well etc, to them dak will be exactly the same as the day he got hurt :rolleyes:
Maybe he will be , but maybe he wont.

Dallas has 10 picks, spending one on a good qb prospect is smart imo.
Dont have to go high, as most of those guys turn out to be busts or so so, but dont want to go too low either.

That being said I dont think jones boys will draft a qb, they are not that smart, and they dont want a controversy, or any fire lit under dak.
I would be shocked if they took one round 3 or up.:omg:
he said 10 and that giant stupid NO! he didnt say in this draft somewhere, he specifically said 10 AND THAT GIANT NO..YOU DOT PAY YOUNG QB 40MIL 4-5 YEAR DEAL THEN SPEND A 10 ON A QB..NOPE NO WAY ITS INSANE..

DOES HE ALSO KNOW DAK HAS NO TRADE CLAUSE NO TRADING

DOES THE OP ALSO KNOW HOW MANY HOLES WE HAVE ON DEFENSE ...UGHH

STOP THE NONSENSE..YES MAYBE ROUNDS 3-5 IF SOLID PROSEPCT IS THERE ONE THAT SLIPPED YOU CAN GRAB HIM AS DEVELOPMENTAL BACKUP, SURE..
 
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