The Chargers trade for Kenneth Murray in 2020 for you Zaven Collins fans

Last year the Chargers gave up pick# 71 to trade up from #37 to #23 to take Kenneth Murray

With some of the chatter about how much the Cowboys value Collins, them moving back into the first is not out of the question
23 was exactly where Murray was ranked so they didn't reach for the player. He started 16 games for them and had 107 combined tackles five for loss. Collins is ranked 29th so unless someone reaches for him it might not cost as much to move up to get him.
 
23 was exactly where Murray was ranked so they didn't reach for the player. He started 16 games for them and had 107 combined tackles five for loss. Collins is ranked 29th so unless someone reaches for him it might not cost as much to move up to get him.
Depends on where teams actually have him tiered. There is some talk that Dallas has him as a top 15 guy. If that is the case, it wouldn't shock me if Dallas started making calls in the early to mid 20's
 
Depends on where teams actually have him tiered. There is some talk that Dallas has him as a top 15 guy. If that is the case, it wouldn't shock me if Dallas started making calls in the early to mid 20's
I would absolutely hate that pick and I usually give them the benefit of the doubt.
 
I would hope their evaluation is right, and that he is a top 15 caliber player. My issue with it would be with the multiple positions we have to fill, giving up picks really hurts. However, two top 15 players is a haul
There is no way he is a top 15 player. If they start reaching for players we'll be in worse shape than we are now. The problem is the LB class is weak this year.
 
There is no way he is a top 15 player. If they start reaching for players we'll be in worse shape than we are now. The problem is the LB class is weak this year.
I dont think he is, I have him as a late 1st. Im not doing their evaluations either. They may be higher on him than others
 
I dont think he is, I have him as a late 1st. Im not doing their evaluations either. They may be higher on him than others
That reminds me of the Hill pick and we're still trying to recover from that one. Last year the first two picks were outstanding with Lamb and Diggs falling to us.
 
Murray is going to get even better.

I remember nearly everyone around here poo poo ing the idea of him at 17 because LB "wasn't a need."

Hysterical what happens one short year later.

If that isn't the classic argument for BPA over need I'm not sure what is.
 
Re Collins would you prefer

10. Patrick Surtain
44. Jabril Cox/Browning

Or

10. Zavien Collins
44. Tyson Campbell/Melifonwu
 
Last year the Chargers gave up pick# 71 to trade up from #37 to #23 to take Kenneth Murray

With some of the chatter about how much the Cowboys value Collins, them moving back into the first is not out of the question
As we discussed, makes total sense, especially if they have a 1st rd grade on him. How do you envision Quinn using him? He could play all linebacker roles, even Leo.
 
23 was exactly where Murray was ranked so they didn't reach for the player. He started 16 games for them and had 107 combined tackles five for loss. Collins is ranked 29th so unless someone reaches for him it might not cost as much to move up to get him.
I think we are putting too much weight in his media ranking, Pauline has him as the 15th best player, we saw a report yesterday that the Cowboys view him as a top 15 player.
 
As we discussed, makes total sense, especially if they have a 1st rd grade on him. How do you envision Quinn using him? He could play all linebacker roles, even Leo.
He doesn’t have the skill set of a Leo. He’s an off the ball LB. If we’re lucky you get a Jamie Collins type player.
 
In recent years, there has always been way more chatter, during the actual draft about Dallas moving up in round 2 than in round 1. With that said, I was thinking the other day that maybe that chatter about Dallas moving up in the draft was actually not from pick 10 but from pick 44. I absolutely think moving up from 44 is in the cards. I also think Collins is one of the guys they would move up for.
 
I think we are putting too much weight in his media ranking, Pauline has him as the 15th best player, we saw a report yesterday that the Cowboys view him as a top 15 player.
Who is Paulie? Don't believe anything coming from the teams leading up to the draft.
 

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