Based on the rumors, here is possible draft class

[Shake_Tiller]

As many noticed, very hard to project this yr, based on no combine, workouts or 30 visits. Here is a mock, not with a simulator, but rather on the rumors of players the Cowboys have been linked to and their projected draft positions:

1-Surtain CB (they are reportedly very high on a particular corner, it's either Surtain or Horn)
2-Holland S (think there is little chance they head into the season with just Kazee)
3a-Milton Williams DE/DT (whole team of scouts attended his pro day)
3b-Togiai DT (Quinn reportedly went to Ohio State to look at him)
4a-Niemann LB (we heard their interest this week)

Not at all unrealistic. Like you, I imagine, O wouldn't love it, but it is reasonable, and something close to this wouldn't surprise me a bit.

I am a little skeptical about some of the Milton Williams reports, though you are certainly accurate about what has been reported. For one thing, clubs can send no more than 3 representatives to any Pro Day, so while the fact they might have sent 3 is intriguing, some of the reports made it sound like they sent a swarm.

I do suspect they like Holland a little more than I do. I don't see him as a second round player.

The LB is interesting in what it tells us about Quinn's preference. I think he wants a guy who can really, really run. It is the major reason I'm not so sure they are out on Parsons or JOK.

Collins isn't quite the speed guy, but maybe Quinn looks at him and sees Bruce Irvin. Or maybe the head coach sees Clay Matthews.

 

[Cowboyny]

Not at all unrealistic. Like you, I imagine, O wouldn't love it, but it is reasonable, and something close to this wouldn't surprise me a bit.

I am a little skeptical about some of the Milton Williams reports, though you are certainly accurate about what has been reported. For one thing, clubs can send no more than 3 representatives to any Pro Day, so while the fact they might have sent 3 is intriguing, some of the reports made it sound like they sent a swarm.

I do suspect they like Holland a little more than I do. I don't see him as a second round player.

The LB is interesting in what it tells us about Quinn's preference. I think he wants a guy who can really, really run. It is the major reason I'm not so sure they are out on Parsons or JOK.

Collins isn't quite the speed guy, but maybe Quinn looks at him and sees Bruce Irvin. Or maybe the head coach sees Clay Matthews.

Don't want Milton Williams, see an athletic project. You are right Holland might be more of a late 2, early 3. I don't get the Collins love, he was a perfect fit for Nolan's scheme, but not as much in Quinn's. This might be more scout based then our coaching staff.

 

[Shake_Tiller]

Don't want Milton Williams, see an athletic project. You are right Holland might be more of a late 2, early 3. I don't get the Collins love, he was a perfect fit for Nolan's scheme, but not as much in Quinn's. This might be more scout based then our coaching staff.

I wonder if there is a disconnect between what Brugler heard before Quinn was hired and what is the reality now. The Cowboys might have, at one time, been very high on Collins. But he is an awkward fit in the Quinn system -- unless they see him in a Bruce Irvin role, I suppose.

 

[Cowboyny]

I wonder if there is a disconnect between what Brugler heard before Quinn was hired and what is the reality now. The Cowboys might have, at one time, been very high on Collins. But he is an awkward fit in the Quinn system -- unless they see him in a Bruce Irvin role, I suppose.

It's very possible the scouts were looking at players who fit Nolan's scheme, when Quinn was hired, they had to change the type of players for Quinn. I think Parsons, JOK and Davis are the best fits as they possess that elite speed at the position.

 

[Shake_Tiller]

It's very possible the scouts were looking at players who fit Nolan's scheme, when Quinn was hired, they had to change the type of players for Quinn. I think Parsons, JOK and Davis are the best fits as they possess that elite speed at the position.

I agree. I will admit to being queasy about Davis. He started one year for Kentucky. Maybe he will become an all-pro, but I kind of chuckle to read that Parsons is a risk in comparison.

 

[gimmesix]

I don't believe any 2 down run 1T will be worthy of a 2nd rd selection. Just got the beast today, saw Togiai rated as a late 3rd, early 4th which makes sense, where Marvin was a 5th. Perhaps they get pushed up due to lack of talent at the position.

The only 1-tech I have that high is McNeill because based on what I've seen, I believe he's more than a 1-tech. He's a pure 1-tech with the ability to create some pressure/disruption in the backfield. Not quite on the 3-tech level, which means we'd still want to replace him on passing downs with a better pass rusher, but at least to the point where he's pretty much a wash against the pass.

Ideally, you'd like every one of your front four to be able to be great run defenders but also be able to get some pressure when teams choose to pass on run downs, and I think McNeill can do that. I think Togiai might fall into that category as well, which could cause him to go higher than the third, although I see him as more 3-tech than 1-tech because I'm not sure he can hold up as well against double-teams.

Some believe Wilson can be effective against both the run and pass as well based on his 2019 film, but I think his 2020 production will keep him around a little longer than McNeill and Togiai.

 

[unionjack8]

Don't want Milton Williams, see an athletic project. You are right Holland might be more of a late 2, early 3. I don't get the Collins love, he was a perfect fit for Nolan's scheme, but not as much in Quinn's. This might be more scout based then our coaching staff.

Totally agree, he seems light in the pants and a huge project imo. 5th round no problem but I'm seeing 44 and no way in hell, I think Gallimore is better

 

[AsthmaField]

It's very possible the scouts were looking at players who fit Nolan's scheme, when Quinn was hired, they had to change the type of players for Quinn. I think Parsons, JOK and Davis are the best fits as they possess that elite speed at the position.

It’s not just speed, but also change of direction and lateral quickness. Collins will never have either of those things at his size and length. Parsons and particularly Koramoah have them in spades.

It is one of the reasons that I think JOK would be perfect for Quinn’s defense and why I’ve been saying that I’d be ok with him in the first round.

 

[Malhavoc]

It’s not just speed, but also change of direction and lateral quickness. Collins will never have either of those things at his size and length. Parsons and particularly Koramoah have them in spades.

It is one of the reasons that I think JOK would be perfect for Quinn’s defense and why I’ve been saying that I’d be ok with him in the first round.

We both like McGrone and he’s certainly that kind of player. A guy like that is who we should be looking at maybe in round 3.

 

[Cowboyny]

It’s not just speed, but also change of direction and lateral quickness. Collins will never have either of those things at his size and length. Parsons and particularly Koramoah have them in spades.

It is one of the reasons that I think JOK would be perfect for Quinn’s defense and why I’ve been saying that I’d be ok with him in the first round.

If they pass of the top 2 in rd one, think if there, Davis also is a good fit for his defense. I agree, don't see a fit with Collins and this scheme. Think they have to get faster/quicker and more athletic at the position.

 

[Cowboyny]

Totally agree, he seems light in the pants and a huge project imo. 5th round no problem but I'm seeing 44 and no way in hell, I think Gallimore is better

I agree, but you know this front office loves those elite athletes.

 

[Cowboyny]

The only 1-tech I have that high is McNeill because based on what I've seen, I believe he's more than a 1-tech. He's a pure 1-tech with the ability to create some pressure/disruption in the backfield. Not quite on the 3-tech level, which means we'd still want to replace him on passing downs with a better pass rusher, but at least to the point where he's pretty much a wash against the pass.

Ideally, you'd like every one of your front four to be able to be great run defenders but also be able to get some pressure when teams choose to pass on run downs, and I think McNeill can do that. I think Togiai might fall into that category as well, which could cause him to go higher than the third, although I see him as more 3-tech than 1-tech because I'm not sure he can hold up as well against double-teams.

Some believe Wilson can be effective against both the run and pass as well based on his 2019 film, but I think his 2020 production will keep him around a little longer than McNeill and Togiai.

Togiai is strong as a bull, kind of reminds me of Paea who we signed from the Bears a few years ago. Think McNeil is going to attract the 3-4 teams cause the majority of his snaps were at the 0 tech right over the center. Think both players come off the board in rd 3, probably in that 75 range.

 

[gimmesix]

Togiai is strong as a bull, kind of reminds me of Paea who we signed from the Bears a few years ago. Think McNeil is going to attract the 3-4 teams cause the majority of his snaps were at the 0 tech right over the center. Think both players come off the board in rd 3, probably in that 75 range.

Maybe so. I'd love to get both of them, especially if we don't go after Barmore, which I don't see us doing because I think he goes somewhere between our first- and second-round picks.

 

[Cowboyny]

I agree. I will admit to being queasy about Davis. He started one year for Kentucky. Maybe he will become an all-pro, but I kind of chuckle to read that Parsons is a risk in comparison.

Davis is be more riskier, but I don't think he goes off the board until late 1, early 2. I think Parsons will take a little time, but could be a monster down the line.

 

[Cowboyny]

Maybe so. I'd love to get both of them, especially if we don't go after Barmore, which I don't see us doing because I think he goes somewhere between our first- and second-round picks.

There is a lot of reputable media scouts seeing Barmore as a 2nd rd prospect: Jeramiah, Pauline, McShay, even Dane said it is possible he falls to rd 2. Anything is possible, think he goes late rd one, but might be a trade up option if he falls.

What I know is, they have been linked to both Togiai and Marvin Wilson. Like both players in rd 3, Wilson more at 99. Both players have the potential to become legit future starters at the position, better then we have seen here in years. Think Urban holds down the position this year, but he should be replaced in 2022 with a prospect.

 

[AsthmaField]

If they pass of the top 2 in rd one, think if there, Davis also is a good fit for his defense. I agree, don't see a fit with Collins and this scheme. Think they have to get faster/quicker and more athletic at the position.

Yeah, Davis would be very nice in round 2. I like the player a lot.

 

[AsthmaField]

We both like McGrone and he’s certainly that kind of player. A guy like that is who we should be looking at maybe in round 3.

Yeah, he moves very well. In 2019 when he wasn’t injured, he looked very good.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

I'm not necessarily feeling the second-round safety although it's certainly a position where we will need a starter either this year (depending on Kazee's progress) or most likely next year when Kazee leaves as a FA. Maybe it's just because I haven't seen rumors of them being high on Holland.

I'm also not a fan of what I've seen of Milton Williams. I'd rather go Togiai and Marvin Wilson there. I don't know if Wilson is going to regain the form that he showed in 2019, but even if he doesn't, I think he can be a quality 1-tech.

I also for some reason feel Dallas is higher on Horn than Surtain, but I don't know why.

Lots of people are......Richard Sherman thinks he's the best CB in the draft. Personally, Horn scares me........his penalty issues. College refs aren't known for calling a lot of penalties. If he didn't trust his techniques and/or talent enough at the college level, my goodness, what's going happen on Sundays going against superior receivers every game with refs calling penalties much closer.

 

[Cowboyny]

Yeah, Davis would be very nice in round 2. I like the player a lot.

Think he is the best 2nd tier LB, but I have seen some 1st rd grades.

 

[gimmesix]

There is a lot of reputable media scouts seeing Barmore as a 2nd rd prospect: Jeramiah, Pauline, McShay, even Dane said it is possible he falls to rd 2. Anything is possible, think he goes late rd one, but might be a trade up option if he falls.

What I know is, they have been linked to both Togiai and Marvin Wilson. Like both players in rd 3, Wilson more at 99. Both players have the potential to become legit future starters at the position, better then we have seen here in years. Think Urban holds down the position this year, but he should be replaced in 2022 with a prospect.

I've learned not to be surprised about what happens during the draft. Therefore, I won't be surprised if Barmore is available at 44 and we pass on him.