NFL Rumors: Cowboys, Eagles, Giants, Washington

[Carson]

Looks productive. I think


I agree. You have to think that it is likely our division counterparts will pick solid players with their first round picks. I would be thrilled if the Eagles traded up for a CB or took a WR with their first round pick. If they took a WR, even a good one, after taking a WR in the first last year (which appears to be a mistake on the player they took and the one they passed), all the better. That would mean they have taken two WR in the first rounds in back to back years while not having a franchise QB. Great.

The Eagles are a mess. The more interesting teams are the Giants and Commanders. Both appear to be developing solid rosters. If either finds their QB, then they go to a new level. I don't see the Giants taking a QB, nor do I see Washington moving up for one, but I will be interested to see if they continue to make smart moves.

Remember with Washington and New York, a majority of their guys are on rookie deals! They will both look much different in two seasons when they have to start paying premium dollars

 

[chicago JK]

Remember with Washington and New York, a majority of their guys are on rookie deals! They will both look much different in two seasons when they have to start paying premium dollars

True... but two years is a lifetime in the NFL. Anyway, it is moot for both until they find top 15 QB play to compete for championships.

 

[Stash]

Honestly, I'm not sure their top target is CB. I've read more than a couple of tweets they'd love to get one of the top three WRs ( Waddle is a name mentioned a couple of times)

I have heard that as well. And given what their receivers look like, that certainly makes the most sense.

But I'm starting we could see the top three receivers and Pitts come off the board immediately after the 49ers pick. In other words, picks 1-3 QBs and 4,5,6 and 7 TE and WRs. That would leave Sewell, Slater, Horn, Parson, and Surtain left.

I would love to see that.

 

[Stash]

If I’m the Eagles the only position I’m moving up in the draft for is QB.

There is no way (IMO) that Hurts is there next franchise QB.

I just can’t see them going quarterback already given their recent decisions.

 

[Stash]

They have the draft ammo in next year's draft to make a move this year if they want. Plus, seems like the 2022 QB class is in some flux with no clear cut #1 like Lawrence was this year.

How do they rationalize not giving up that 2nd last year to get Lamb, drafting Raegor and Hurts, trading away Wentz, and then giving up future draft capitol to move up for yet another quarterback?

 

[Stash]

I can see the Eagles trading up for a CB. It fits for them. It is a stupid strategy to trade up to screw Dallas for 2 reasons. 1) Dallas is not their only competition in the division. and 2) their are other NFC teams they have to beat to get tot he Super Bowl. Also, the Eagles have other problems, starting with QB.

If the Eagles trade up to take Surtain, they might be doing Dallas a favor. Horn may be the better CB, or the Cowboys can trade down for another 2nd round pick.

Horn also has bigger risk of being a bust. And trading down for another second may have us lose out on one of the two top corners. Not my preferred choice at all.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

I just can’t see them going quarterback already given their recent decisions.

Yeah, I’m just looking at it from the outside looking in. I’m not a believer in Hurts. That came about after watching tons of game cutups of CeeDee Lamb.

Wasn’t Hurts a Pederson pick? With Pederson out, I’m not sure they are wedded to Hurts. I can definitely see them taking a QB under the guise of competition.

 

[Stash]

Yeah, I’m just looking at it from the outside looking in. I’m not a believer in Hurts. That came about after watching tons of game cutups of CeeDee Lamb.

I’m not either, but they made their bed when they drafted him in round 2, started him, and traded away Wentz. They have to give him at least a season, likely two.

Wasn’t Hurts a Pederson pick? With Pederson out, I’m not sure they are wedded to Hurts. I can definitely see them taking a QB under the guise of competition.

I have never read that about him being a Pederson pick. I can’t see how they can justify it and not look like morons. If you’re bringing in ‘competition’ at such cost, you’re effectively closing the door on Hurts already and telling everyone you wasted the pick. Especially the player himself.

 

[Gaede]

Yeah, I’m just looking at it from the outside looking in. I’m not a believer in Hurts. That came about after watching tons of game cutups of CeeDee Lamb.

Wasn’t Hurts a Pederson pick? With Pederson out, I’m not sure they are wedded to Hurts. I can definitely see them taking a QB under the guise of competition.

Hahaha me too. I used to think Hurts was a decent prospect, but watching Lamb highlights showed how late and off target Hurts really was. It was actually astounding how good Lamb was, considering

 

[Sydla]

How do they rationalize not giving up that 2nd last year to get Lamb, drafting Raegor and Hurts, trading away Wentz, and then giving up future draft capitol to move up for yet another quarterback?

They botched it for sure. I don't think it ever entered their calculus that Wentz would regress as bad as they did. Taking Hurts was pure Roseman, who thinks he's the smartest guy in the room. From what some insiders up here said, Hurts was the highest guy on his board and he took him thinking they could then parlay him into more draft picks from a QB needy team in a year or two. It appears to have backfired on them unless Hurts turns into some sort of QB stud, which I doubt. Others say they took Hurts because in 2019, there were some in the building that wondered if Wentz was the same guy from 2017.

But who knows.

 

[Stash]

They botched it for sure. I don't think it ever entered their calculus that Wentz would regress as bad as they did. Taking Hurts was pure Roseman, who thinks he's the smartest guy in the room. From what some insiders up here said, Hurts was the highest guy on his board and he took him thinking they could then parlay him into more draft picks from a QB needy team in a year or two. It appears to have backfired on them unless Hurts turns into some sort of QB stud, which I doubt. Others say they took Hurts because in 2019, there were some in the building that wondered if Wentz was the same guy from 2017.

But who knows.

I think your first sentence is spot-on.

They botched it for sure.

In some ways, it reminds me of our mistake with Quincy Carter years ago.

 

[Sydla]

Yeah, I’m just looking at it from the outside looking in. I’m not a believer in Hurts. That came about after watching tons of game cutups of CeeDee Lamb.

Wasn’t Hurts a Pederson pick? With Pederson out, I’m not sure they are wedded to Hurts. I can definitely see them taking a QB under the guise of competition.

If you believe some of the rumors, it was a Roseman/Lurie pick. Why they did it depends on who you listen to up here. Some say they took him because the Wentz from 2019 gave them enough pause to think that he might not be the same guy from 2017. Others say they took him because Roseman fancies himself the smartest guy in football and they thought if they take Hurts, develop him a bit, they could then flip him to a QB desperate team in a year or two.

Regardless, the whole thing is one giant screw up. As for Pederson, again if you believe the rumors, one issue between him and Roseman was Roseman largely did what he wanted and made roster decisions for Pederson. Recent stories suggest that Pederson was also not as bullish on Hurts as Roseman was. Pederson and Wentz had their issues but it doesn't appear Pederson was pro-Hurts either.

 

[gimmesix]

Big fan of McDuffie. He would be a great 4th round pick if he gets to one of our picks.

So glad to keep hearing the Cowboys connected to linebackers. Tells me at least they recognize it’s an obvious issue.

This is the way a linebacker needs attack the run. Jaylon would be hand fighting blockers waiting for the RB to run past him and then turn in pursuit.

I prefer hearing them tied to linebackers like this one who are expected to be available in the third or fourth round.

I'm of the belief if we're playing Neal at linebacker, then we have our expected starters for this year because we need to see how Jaylon and LVE play for Quinn before we go hard after replacements (if needed). We will need to replace Neal after his one-year deal, so grabbing some mid-round linebackers gives us the opportunity to groom his replacement and possible one for either Jaylon or LVE if they can't step up their game/stay healthy.

We've got other position where the problems with what we've got is more clear than at linebacker IMO.

 

[Creeper]

I don't know about the team, but their fanbase is bizarrely obsessed with this whole competition within the draft. They still pat themselves on the back for their jump over us to take Goeddert. They still think we purposely took Lamb to stick it to them (we didn't, we simply took the best player on the board).

It's weird. If Howie Roseman, who hasn't been all that good at drafting recently, wants to play games in the draft and move around in order to "stick" it to the other NFCE teams, have at it.

Do we know Dallas was going to take Goedert?