Anyone But Horn

If you want to do some last second cramming to learn more about Jaycee Horn then I think this is a great video.



I've seen it, thanks for sharing.

I'm a big fan of Kollman just don't agree with him here.
 
Listening to the insiders on ESPN and Daniel Jeremiah, they think the Cowboys will pick Horne. So you might be throwing stuff at your television.:omg::muttley:

I've already accepted it...my gut says he WILL be the pick I'd just be really disappointed.
 
I've already accepted it...my gut says he WILL be the pick I'd just be really disappointed.
Your my guy cnuball21. You won me over with your love for Parsons. I think he is the best defensive player in the draft. I don’t understand how he fell from top 5 lock to the late teens.
 
Your my guy cnuball21. You won me over with your love for Parsons. I think he is the best defensive player in the draft. I don’t understand how he fell from top 5 lock to the late teens.
Parsons fall is all about his character.
 
Sure...but if we're taking a player in the top 10 wouldn't you like to see him be more competitive against another top 10 talent? Unfortunately Chase sat out so we didn't get to see him match up against him but the SEC WR group is watered down this year. It's Alabama's crew and Chase and then a bunch of day 2/3 guys.
I mean, it's not like Horn has a particularly light coverage resume. He has covered several current and future NFL starters in his career
 
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Horn's my target. Think you're wrong about him, worried about a bad game from two years ago but not the games in 2020 he shut guys down.

In a bad draft, I see good character, great athlete and competitor, excellent production in college, and plays a position we need filled.

I think it's pretty simple actually

not to mention everyone’s favorite unicorn called him his hardest matchup.
 
Sure...but if we're taking a player in the top 10 wouldn't you like to see him be more competitive against another top 10 talent? Unfortunately Chase sat out so we didn't get to see him match up against him but the SEC WR group is watered down this year. It's Alabama's crew and Chase and then a bunch of day 2/3 guys.

pitts?
 
Your my guy cnuball21. You won me over with your love for Parsons. I think he is the best defensive player in the draft. I don’t understand how he fell from top 5 lock to the late teens.

If the off the field is clean...I'd take him at 10 in a heartbeat.

I understand some knocking the positional value but I can't understand knocking the talent...he's that special IMO. Similar to Pitts...I usually wouldn't take a TE top 10 but I think he's that special as well.
 
We take Parsons at 10 and then a real defensive lineman at 44, the defense would improve dramatically. Not those bums we have playing tackle in Gallimore/Hill
 
I don’t mind Horn, I just prefer Surtain.

I think you can pencil him in as a 8-10 year starter.

The technique and transition here is a thing of beauty.


One of things I like about both is that there is alot of scheme flexibility with them. They can play pretty much any style of coverage. Right now both are great fits for a Richard Sherman type press role, but if we change schemes next year either would translate
 
I don’t mind Horn, I just prefer Surtain.

I think you can pencil him in as a 8-10 year starter.

The technique and transition here is a thing of beauty.



I'm not a fan of either at 10...but like I said I can get on board with him if he's the pick.

I don't think he's going to be special or a multi time pro bowler, but do think he'll be a long term starter that will compete.
 
My opinion isn’t quite so low but I definitely prefer Surtain. A much safer choice at #10 with far less risk or chance to bust. And in watching tape on Horn, I didn’t like the times I saw him quit when he got beat. That, along with the pass interference calls and low number of interceptions, are too many red flags for me.
in other words, he will be our pick...
 
And I"m happy...Sewell, Slater, Pitts, Chase, Parsons, trade down...I can even get on board with Surtain now even though I don't love him at 10.

I can't get past the scouting reports speaking to Horn's lack of fluidity / stiff hips, the grabbynes and him getting throttled by Alabama. I like the player, but think he needs to play in a press man heavy scheme and isn't as versatile as Surtain. I honestly see him as a fringe 1st rounder so 10 would kill me.
throttle by Bama? He gave up a couple underneath passes and a 40 yard td. Wasn't throttled by them.
 

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