Twitter: Raiders cut Jeff Heath

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....I hope he saved some of that Dallas money he made here.
 

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I would welcome him back, but the team has new metrics for CB's and Safeties, gotta be somewhere around 6'4, run in the 4.3's and have 34 inch arm length, unfortunately Heath doesn't meet any of the criteria. we could at least sign him for a day and let him retire as a Cowboy

Heath is a 4.38 speedy guy so he'd at least meet the speed criteria.

he's not a strong box support safety type and i'd still worry about his open field whiffs, but as a centerfielder in coverage he could be in a much better an element
than as a box safety.
He has INT skills and range, hands and he was a very valuable special teams player when he was here.

Heath would be a better player than Dorian Thompson, imo.
But with Kazee Damontae, and rookie Israel M. already here on hand, and let alone who knows what the role and plans for Lewis between 4th CB or safety
 

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What was really dumb was trying to replace Church at strong safety with him, when any skills Heath had shown were in coverage. That made Heath look worse than he was, and then when we switched him with Byron Jones, it made Byron look like a bad safety, too, which he wasn't.

Again, nothing but agreement here. I should have clarified, he's a good backup FS. Good third safety if your starting FS can slide to SS in a pinch.

The whole safety position has been bundled in epic proportions...
 

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Israel Mukuamu: 38
That was heaths # , so guess they have no plans to bring heath back in any capacity.
or if they did he would have diff # or Muku would .
 

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Israel Mukuamu: 38
That was heaths # , so guess they have no plans to bring heath back in any capacity.
or if they did he would have diff # or Muku would .
Izzy could easily change numbers
 

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Heath is a 4.38 speedy guy so he'd at least meet the speed criteria.

he's not a strong box support safety type and i'd still worry about his open field whiffs, but as a centerfielder in coverage he could be in a much better an element
than as a box safety.
He has INT skills and range, hands and he was a very valuable special teams player when he was here.

Heath would be a better player than Dorian Thompson, imo.
But with Kazee Damontae, and rookie Israel M. already here on hand, and let alone who knows what the role and plans for Lewis between 4th CB or safety
Heath was a terrible FS. He will get a TO here or there, but he is just not cerebral in coverage. He was better in coverage at SS
 

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Heath is a 4.38 speedy guy so he'd at least meet the speed criteria.

he's not a strong box support safety type and i'd still worry about his open field whiffs, but as a centerfielder in coverage he could be in a much better an element
than as a box safety.
He has INT skills and range, hands and he was a very valuable special teams player when he was here.

Heath would be a better player than Dorian Thompson, imo.
But with Kazee Damontae, and rookie Israel M. already here on hand, and let alone who knows what the role and plans for Lewis between 4th CB or safety
Where is this 4.38 coming from? Heath didnt run at the combine and ran a 4.48 at his pro day
 

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Heath was a terrible FS. He will get a TO here or there, but he is just not cerebral in coverage. He was better in coverage at SS

I saw Just the opposite.
We played Heath at SS and thought him to be a box safety. That was problem No.1.

His biggest problem was his tackling, particularly in the open field where he'd either take a brutally bad angle or
he'd flat whiffed passed the target., or you'd see plays such as vs Philly TE Dallas Gobert where he'd slide off a tackle and allow a huge big gain.

He actually didn't beat much in pure man coverage, and he stopped getting the center field INTs, when we moved him to SS, and brought him closer up at the line.
But since Xavier Woods was thought to be the incumbent at FS, we thought to try/keep Heath at SS.
He wasn't near physical and sound enough tacklers to be a reliable SS.
 

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What's our S depth chart look like right now??
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Heath is a 4.38 speedy guy so he'd at least meet the speed criteria.

he's not a strong box support safety type and i'd still worry about his open field whiffs, but as a centerfielder in coverage he could be in a much better an element
than as a box safety.
He has INT skills and range, hands and he was a very valuable special teams player when he was here.

Heath would be a better player than Dorian Thompson, imo.
But with Kazee Damontae, and rookie Israel M. already here on hand, and let alone who knows what the role and plans for Lewis between 4th CB or safety

I never understood why the Cowboys could not get more out of Heath for as fast as he is. We insisted on trying to make him a strong safety when his speed and range screamed free safety loudly. Sub Heath in for Woods and the defense is instantly better. I would not complain if we signed him back on a vet min deal.
 

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I dont know why Star Telegram is saying he ran a 4.40 when he ran a 4.48


Heath ran Megatron down from behind after leaping over two guys back in his second year. Another thing that stood out about that play was that Heath ran right by Scandrick (who DID run subh 4.4 at the combine) to make the tackle. That's when I realized that we were making a mistake trying to play him in the box.. I don't care what his pro day time was, that dude could fly.. Some guys are just faster when they have something to chase. He's probably not that fast anymore after years of NFL beatings.. but I'd wager he'd still be the fastest safety on this team if we signed him.
 
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