Are the Cowboys just a better defense away from being contenders?

Diehardblues

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lol how long did brady "contend" at Tampa ???? 0 years, he just went straight to SB.
The ravens won a SB paid flacco, and havent been back since, and flacco faded away, so did that team.
I think it is very rare that a team pays a qb huge contract, and then wins a SB soon after that.

Contending is cool and all, but GB has contended since 2011 now and never got back to a SB
NO contended last 2 years, but couldnt win the big games in playoffs.

And that is good, better than not contending, but only a few teams each year are really contenders.
Last year it was GB, NO, and TB, those were the real contenders, the rest were just sub contenders, who are not really contenders.

A team needs to have the right coaching staff, and last year TB had the best staff. Bowles was very good as DC and the OC forget his name,
but he was pretty good too. I think at mid season they became more brady friendly and catered to what he does best. They then won 8 in a row,
and then same thing in playoffs.

I think TB has a good chance to repeat in 21, Brady will help keep the team focused on not thinking they can just show up and win.
I’d argue a consistent contender provides franchises the best means of continually making a championship push.

There’s a reason teams extend their Elite and Franchise QB’s because it provides them the easiest way to build a contender around.

If franchises really bought into you can only win a championship with a QB on a Rookie contract they’d be releasing their QB’s as such.

And why using this fact from recent years that you can’t win a championship with a QB unless on their Rookie QB is simply a stat used by those spinning a narrative. And why teams obviously are dismissing it and resigning their QB they’ve had some success with in most cases.
 

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It’s amazing how how his accomplishments have grown to legendary status with some fans. He doesn’t have the legendary accomplishments of a $40 million a year QB, or even a $20 million a year QB. Maybe it’s those personal stats that hasn’t translated to wins that impresses so many people.
That’s because some fans are translating paying your QB market value to success of the team.

You don’t have to be Elite to receive a market value contract as a QB. You just need moderate success. And on a team which hasn’t been considered championship contender Dak has had some level of success while putting up some good personal numbers. Does it warrant 40 million. Probably not. But that’s how the NFL QB market works.

And why and how QB’s on his level are paid. He won’t be top 5 paid long. As every year the market increases. By the time his contract ends he probably won’t be in top 10. And why he didn’t want a long term deal.

Most critics which I’d probably agree place him in the 8th -12th ranking in the league. But unfortunately this is how Franchise QB’s are paid. And remember Franchise QB doesn’t necessarily mean Elite QB.
 

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Dalton put together some wins last season which was more than Dak could do.
Dalton beat the Vikings which Dak couldnt do. But he also was throttled by the Commanders. Dak usually spanks the Commanders but I have feeling with Rivera there and Chase Young Daks in for a rude awakening.
 

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No, our problems at the start of last year went beyond a bad defense. For some reason, Dak needed to be down by 20 points before he got around to playing at a reasonable level. He's going to have to play better at the start of games this year.
 

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Depends on what you mean by “contender” ...
We nearly won the division last year without our starting QB and OL and a terrible defense.
So not a stretch to say we should contend for the division with an improved D and healthy O.
Could we contend with KC and TB...? The D would REALLY have to be improved and the O has to hit a groove. Dak has to play great. Possible sure...maybe not probable though.
 

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The Browns got up big on us and Dallas offense sputtered nicely while they did it.

You always try to leave out some key detail or you just simply aren’t aware of it which is probably the reality.

Dalton got hurt and we had to play some games without him. Had he not missed a game we probably make the playoffs.. Instead we missed the playoffs like we did the season before when Dak had his great performance against Philadelphia.



Lol....always moving the goal posts when you get roasted.
The Browns got up big on us and Dallas offense sputtered nicely while they did it.

You always try to leave out some key detail or you just simply aren’t aware of it which is probably the reality.

Dalton got hurt and we had to play some games without him. Had he not missed a game we probably make the playoffs.. Instead we missed the playoffs like we did the season before when Dak had his great performance against Philadelphia.



Poor bozo..............The Cowboys offense scored 38 points and the defense gave up 49. Which side of the ball lost that game bozo?

AS far as Dalton, he missed two games. Scored 10 in the first game and then 3 in the second. Denucci came in for one game and scored 9. Thats a higher average than the red rifle the first two games. Then Gilber actually came in the next game, scored 19 against Pitt and almost won. No, Dalton loses both those games.

Now the Philly games? Yes, Dak had a stinker in 2019 no doubt. Got Garrett fired, wonderfully. But at least that was against the division winning Eagles.

All your hero Dalton had to do was beat the 5-10 Giants to make the playoffs and he couldnt even throw a TD pass.

Sorry bozo, but you lost again to the facts.
 

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Dalton put together some wins last season which was more than Dak could do.

Wins together? :lmao2: You mean 2? Wow, and against 3rd string QB scrub teams? Wow, amazing.

Dak has won 11 in a row. 7-1 down the stretch to make the playoffs in 2018. How do you like those win streaks?

Do you think Dalton beats the 3 playoff teams that the Cowboys lost to under Dak last year?

Poor guy, do you miss your hero Dalton?
 

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Lol....always moving the goal posts when you get roasted.


Poor bozo..............The Cowboys offense scored 38 points and the defense gave up 49. Which side of the ball lost that game bozo?

AS far as Dalton, he missed two games. Scored 10 in the first game and then 3 in the second. Denucci came in for one game and scored 9. Thats a higher average than the red rifle the first two games. Then Gilber actually came in the next game, scored 19 against Pitt and almost won. No, Dalton loses both those games.

Now the Philly games? Yes, Dak had a stinker in 2019 no doubt. Got Garrett fired, wonderfully. But at least that was against the division winning Eagles.

All your hero Dalton had to do was beat the 5-10 Giants to make the playoffs and he couldnt even throw a TD pass.

Sorry bozo, but you lost again to the facts.


When did I say the offense is why we lost to Cleveland?

You just made that up and then celebrated lol.

My entire point about the offense was about numbers being inflated because of the situation and once again your terrible comprehension kicked in and took it another direction.
 

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Wins together? :lmao2: You mean 2? Wow, and against 3rd string QB scrub teams? Wow, amazing.

Dak has won 11 in a row. 7-1 down the stretch to make the playoffs in 2018. How do you like those win streaks?

Do you think Dalton beats the 3 playoff teams that the Cowboys lost to under Dak last year?

Poor guy, do you miss your hero Dalton?


Well that was kind of the whole point. Dak and Dalton not being difference making players and they will most likely win and lose to the same teams because they don’t carry. They get carried.

Then this is the part where you get upset and start posting Dak’s stats.

Then I say those stats happened because of the situation against bad pass defenses.

Then you say something stupid like, “You think the offense is why we lost those games”.

You can’t keep up so just stop trying.
 

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When did I say the offense is why we lost?

You just made that up and then celebrated lol.

"Dak was 1-3" You have been blaming Dak for over a year now. In fact, you give him a record every time you do. Are you going to lie now?

Ive been trying to explain to you that Dak runs the offense and they averaged 37 points a game.

You continue to get exposed!
 

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Well that was kind of the whole point. Dak and Dalton not being difference making players and they will most likely win and lose to the same teams because they don’t carry. They get carried.

Then this is the part where you get upset and start posting Dak’s stats.

Then I say those stats happened because of the situation against bad pass defenses.

Then you say something stupid like, “You think the offense is why we lost those games”.

You can’t keep up so just stop trying.

The whole point is that if the Cowboys had a defense that could hold teams to an average of 30 points per game, under Dak we probably win 10 games or more. With Dalton we still only win a few games. Seeing as though all he can do is muster 21 points per game.
 

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"Dak was 1-3" You have been blaming Dak for over a year now. In fact, you give him a record every time you do. Are you going to lie now?

Ive been trying to explain to you that Dak runs the offense and they averaged 37 points a game.

You continue to get exposed!


Nope.. I’ve consistently said Dak isn’t the reason we win or lose games because he isn’t a difference making player and my entire problem with him is the contract for the type of player he is.

Once again.. Your comprehension is the only thing exposed and you just can’t keep up.
 

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Nope.. I’ve consistently said Dak isn’t the reason we win or lose games because he isn’t a difference making player and my entire problem with him is the contract for the type of player he is.

Once again.. Your comprehension is the only thing exposed and you just can’t keep up.

Sorry bozo, Dak led the NFL in last drive comebacks his first 3 years in the league.

Bozo exposed again!!!

37 points a game and the #1 offense in NFL history. Bozo says thats not making a difference. :lmao2::lmao2::lmao2::lmao2::lmao::lmao::lmao:
 

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Nope.. I’ve consistently said Dak isn’t the reason we win or lose games because he isn’t a difference making player and my entire problem with him is the contract for the type of player he is.

Once again.. Your comprehension is the only thing exposed and you just can’t keep up.

Its not we cant comprehend bozo, its that no one is buying your BS. :muttley:
 

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Nope.. I’ve consistently said Dak isn’t the reason we win or lose games because he isn’t a difference making player and my entire problem with him is the contract for the type of player he is.

Once again.. Your comprehension is the only thing exposed and you just can’t keep up.
You’ve never said that.
 

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Only hundreds of times.

Give me the "not a difference maker" QB that leads his offense to 37 points per game.

I'll take that QB all day, every day.

Bozo can take the struggling backup what leads his offense to 21 points per game.
 
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