Twitter: Dak's back and healthy

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All I have to say is Dak better have an MVP level season with a minimum of an NFC championship appearance. Any thing less and it will be another wasted contract on an average to barely above average player.

He demand to be paid like the GOAT, he better damn well play at level.

Dude, it takes way more than a QB to get to the NFC championship. He could play like a football god and they don't make it. It takes a team either way. I have faith that he'll do his part. Do I think he's overpaid? Sure, but he won't be what keeps the Cowboys from the SB if they don't make it.
 

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QBs don’t win or lose games, teams do. This is the ultimate team game, and way too often we say Staubach, Brady, etc won a super bowl, but it’s never true. Every championship level team has all time greats on it, usually multiple, aside from the QB.

it’s been so long since the Cowboys were a year in, year out championship level team, we’ve forgotten what it’s like to know what it takes to win.

my two cents
 

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Oh, “some” of them said that?

Bull.

Name names and @ them. Let’s see if they confirm your garbage, out-of-context take.

Signing Dak to a long-term deal lowered his cap hit and locked up a franchise QB, so you’re already a clown who doesn’t know football for thinking that deal was detrimental to the Cowboys.

You must be so confused as to why every single respected NFL analyst praised the team for that signing. Poor guy.
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Royacie (however you spell it).

Nice deflection, strawman, and appeal to authority in the rest of your nonsense.
 

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QBs don’t win or lose games, teams do. This is the ultimate team game, and way too often we say Staubach, Brady, etc won a super bowl, but it’s never true. Every championship level team has all time greats on it, usually multiple, aside from the QB.

it’s been so long since the Cowboys were a year in, year out championship level team, we’ve forgotten what it’s like to know what it takes to win.

my two cents

Yep not once has a QB lined up and played a single snap on defense.. but the brain dead narrative that people throw out there is that he "won" or "lost" a game. Frankly I find it annoying as hell but I get it.. It's a lazy way of representing a statistic. We're all guilty of it.. but no matter who is doing it.. they're just being lazy.. myself included. Those who who played and coached the game should know better.. and we do.. but we still do it. Seeing just how empty headed it sounds from reading it here has led me to try to shy away from it.. But nobody's perfect.. not even Dak ;-)
 

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so Eli manning when he first got his contract had 15.5% of the cap I believe, subsequently as the cap went up (which it does), his salary wasn't 15% and he won two superbowls. same with Rodgers after he got his second contract. and Rothlisberger and so on.

and this year Dak is at 22M...and you do know by 2023, the cap is expected to go up by 20-25%....

but seemingly one side of your argument is based on averages (42M), while the other side is on specific games making generalizations.

so far you have done nothing but act as a troll, unable to produce any logical argument or debate, just copying other Dak detractors talking points without really understanding what it means and where it fits....at least go read some of their responses and learn....

done with you...you are boring

Thanks for playing. Blocked. Can't have an adult convo.
 

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I stopped reading after your first sentence. You may commence further flogging if you wish. You act like Dak never had anything to to do with a loss. And you act like we have some sort of playoff success.

Dak had a great rookie year thanks to a STACKED team especially offense. Not many starting rookies get no less than 4 1st rounders on their offense. Most go to the worst loser in the league (Joe Burrow).

And 2020 was a startling beginning right? Well except we didn't win much and most certainly DID contribute to it. Check his turnover count.

I know it';s REALLY hard for you to process someone that is both critical and supportive...so there's no need to go on here.
Be careful. If you say one cross word towards Dak, you will be tarred and feathered and hung in the public square. Dak's army believes he has earned this monster payday . And Dak's army also only gives him credit for wins and stats, not losses. That's always the defense's or coach's fault. I want Dallas to have success in the playoffs and big games when it matters, and I just don't think we will be able to do it with this salary allocated to a good, but so far, not great, QB.
 

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perfect response.

not sure if you remember, but someone on this board actually said our bad run defense is Dak's fault. he insisted that its because of him and the offense that we gave up 300 yards to cleveland and he had all this twisted logic, just like the dude you responded to...its called a spin

Well I don;t believe it was "Perfect".

Except we really aren't "winning". In fact we fired a head coach in all that "winning".

Let's say this: The QB wins every regular season. Every one. That would probably give him "the highest winning percentage". But he loses the 1st playoff game. And he does that for 4-5 seasons.

That is "winning"?

Not in my book.

Yes...I know...it is a team game. Yes, I know...QB doesn't play defense. But Dak is touted as a leader and a leader doesn't care about that stuff.

I will say it again...and this is the part you and so many people ignore: I think Dak is a good QB, does his job....and I have no problem with him as our QB. I know...it's a difficult concept to grasp. *IF* Dak is truly the leader of this team as you and many others say, he would bear a lot of responsibility and accountability.

You are not a leader if you say "wasn't me, I didn't do it". If this is a "team game", Dak loses the same as everyone else. You can't have that one way and not the other.
 

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Thanks for playing. Blocked. Can't have an adult convo.
The guy can be insufferable...but I wouldn't block him.

Even when you throw around stats...this whole thing is opinions...when engaging in conversations. Some people can't wrap their heads around a different point of view.

Even in disagreement, we need to be civil. We throw around terms like "hater" and "troll", when it really is "okay I disagree with you".
 

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Be careful. If you say one cross word towards Dak, you will be tarred and feathered and hung in the public square. Dak's army believes he has earned this monster payday . And Dak's army also only gives him credit for wins and stats, not losses. That's always the defense's or coach's fault. I want Dallas to have success in the playoffs and big games when it matters, and I just don't think we will be able to do it with this salary allocated to a good, but so far, not great, QB.

Oh I've already been tarred and feathered. And i RARELY mention his contract. I even tell them I am okay with him being our QB.

I object to this notion he is this great grand leader...that puts him in the same stratosphere as Brady, Rodgers and Brees. "We" just aren't there yet. And I really don't care it it's Dak's fault or not. Fault doesn't matter. Facts....we've won nothing of late. Some might say that's just too easy, too general, too much altitude. Okay. great. Fine.
 

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Yep not once has a QB lined up and played a single snap on defense.. but the brain dead narrative that people throw out there is that he "won" or "lost" a game. Frankly I find it annoying as hell but I get it.. It's a lazy way of representing a statistic. We're all guilty of it.. but no matter who is doing it.. they're just being lazy.. myself included. Those who who played and coached the game should know better.. and we do.. but we still do it. Seeing just how empty headed it sounds from reading it here has led me to try to shy away from it.. But nobody's perfect.. not even Dak ;-)
As has been noted....you give Dak credit for wins...you even quoted his winning % at me...but not losses.

That's the goal here. WIN. If it's a "team game" as you say...then it's okay to lay blame with Dak, along with the rest of the team. You seem compelled to deter that at every turn. "Frankly, I find it annoying as hell."
 

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As has been noted....you give Dak credit for wins...you even quoted his winning % at me...but not losses.

That's the goal here. WIN. If it's a "team game" as you say...then it's okay to lay blame with Dak, along with the rest of the team. You seem to want to deter that at every turn. "Frankly, I find it annoying as hell."

I'm a fan of Dak but I agree with you. Winning takes a team but in losing there is also enough blame to go around and Dak is not exempt. I always use the terms a QB helps his team win, he helps his team to a championship but no QB can do it alone, it takes others around him to step up and make plays. There are also things outside of the control of the QB, he does not play defense, he is not on special teams.
 

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I'm a fan of Dak but I agree with you. Winning takes a team but in losing there is also enough blame to go around and Dak is not exempt. I always use the terms a QB helps his team win, he helps his team to a championship but no QB can do it alone, it takes others around him to step up and make plays. There are also things outside of the control of the QB, he does not play defense, he is not on special teams.
I mostly agree. But a QB....who is touted as a true real "leader" can inspire EVERYONE. The game goes through the QB....and he can effect everyone on the team like no one else can. Just doing your job...may not be enough to do that.

I believe the truly great QB's inspire the whole entire team to excel and win. Ignite that spark that even a professional athlete reserves.
 
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