Cowboys news: Ezekiel Elliott is dominating OTAs thus far

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I have no issue with those who are critical, I think some go over board with it but whatever. Like you I like seeing reports on players who are looking good, sharp and quick and in shape. As for last season all RB need up front blocking, when you make a 5 yard run with a 1 yard pick up because you are dealing with defenders in the back field that is hard to contend with. I don't agree with you on Moore, again 2019 Zeke was 1,357 yards ranking 4th in the NFL. Last season we saw an OL that was decimated Now as for fumbles I always put that directly on the player, anytime you have the ball in your possession it is your responsibility to protect that ball and Zeke struggled doing that and must improve on it from this past season

And of those 1357 rushing yards in 2019, how many were 20+ yards, much less the 40 yard runs or screen pass plays where Zeke used to be patented home run TD splashers of yester years 2016 .. ?
You don’t draft a RB 4th overall to be a mere pounding workhorse – you want him to be special, unique and bring a higher element and threat to opposing defenses,..

- Yes all RBs do need some kind of at least serviceable help up front, in blocking ..but there’s also a case can be made that great backs with at least that decent OL, can make that OL unit appear
better than what it is, ..
Example, as we saw that with Saquon Barkley his rookie year behind an average Giants OL when he finished 2nd behind Elliott in rushing in 2018,

- And I keep hearing posters bark about he no longer has the 2016 great OL , but if Elliott is indeed a great back, he shouldnt have to have to no.1 picks and pro bowlers packed across the OL ,
for him to be a difference making stand out.

- To some point, it can be the OL, but at some point it can be the RB too, .. as well as the play caller, if hes’ predictable.
Does Kellen Moore even opt to use that patented quick screen pass plays any more than what Linehan use to use with ZKE ?

- All that has been seen with Moore and the RBs particular is Zeke up the middle on sprint- draw plays (instead of deep handoffs ala Derrick henry) or just running up the gut, as ex- RB Gary Brown suggested,.. same formations, and its’ gotten to the point where his run call tendencies are being fished out, sniffed out to where defenses can anticipate predictable plays and jump ahead on
zeke for losses.

- And it's not just ZKE, much less, is Kellen Moore not knowing how to use/utilize a 4.37 speedy pollard in the pass game, . .if Pollard is developed and utilized more, he’d be among the better, more dangerous nickel situational RBs in the game.
But here under the non-creative Moore, Pollard is just gonna as an occasional ball carrying spot backup.
o_O
 

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I don't need to do better, you being a critic seems to offend you all I can say is stop offending yourself. I'm not saying you are a hater, frankly I think very few here are but some are more or less critics and some of the critics we have are insightful in their views others just insulting
Where was the insult? Where exactly? Zeke is a clown. It’s well documented. If this truth upsets your fantasy then that’s on you. It’s ok to be honest.
 

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And of those 1357 rushing yards in 2019, how many were 20+ yards, much less the 40 yard runs or screen pass plays where Zeke used to be patented home run TD splashers of yester years 2016 .. ?
You don’t draft a RB 4th overall to be a mere pounding workhorse – you want him to be special, unique and bring a higher element and threat to opposing defenses,..

- Yes all RBs do need some kind of at least serviceable help up front, in blocking ..but there’s also a case can be made that great backs with at least that decent OL, can make that OL unit appear
better than what it is, ..
Example, as we saw that with Saquon Barkley his rookie year behind an average Giants OL when he finished 2nd behind Elliott in rushing in 2018,

- And I keep hearing posters bark about he no longer has the 2016 great OL , but if Elliott is indeed a great back, he shouldnt have to have to no.1 picks and pro bowlers packed across the OL ,
for him to be a difference making stand out.

- To some point, it can be the OL, but at some point it can be the RB too, .. as well as the play caller, if hes’ predictable.
Does Kellen Moore even opt to use that patented quick screen pass plays any more than what Linehan use to use with ZKE ?

- All that has been seen with Moore and the RBs particular is Zeke up the middle on sprint- draw plays (instead of deep handoffs ala Derrick henry) or just running up the gut, as ex- RB Gary Brown suggested,.. same formations, and its’ gotten to the point where his run call tendencies are being fished out, sniffed out to where defenses can anticipate predictable plays and jump ahead on
zeke for losses.

- And it's not just ZKE, much less, is Kellen Moore not knowing how to use/utilize a 4.37 speedy pollard in the pass game, . .if Pollard is developed and utilized more, he’d be among the better, more dangerous nickel situational RBs in the game.
But here under the non-creative Moore, Pollard is just gonna as an occasional ball carrying spot backup.
o_O

I think Moore has a clue as to what he is doing, I think last season trying to put together any winning game plan on offense was going to be extremely difficult when your offense is limited by the plethora of injuries along the OL.
 

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Where was the insult? Where exactly? Zeke is a clown. It’s well documented. If this truth upsets your fantasy then that’s on you. It’s ok to be honest.

Truth you mean your truth. It is how you see it yet you speak for yourself no one else. I have no issue how you feel personally about any player. Nor do I expect people to feel as I do. I'm not upset because to be upset would mean I gave a damn about what you think and frankly I don't. lol
 

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Truth you mean your truth. It is how you see it yet you speak for yourself no one else. I have no issue how you feel personally about any player. Nor do I expect people to feel as I do. I'm not upset because to be upset would mean I gave a damn about what you think and frankly I don't. lol
Is this the second dog attack law suit? Was it last year when he got hammered and pushed a worker at a concert? Didn’t he get blasted and fell asleep while live streaming himself playing video games? How many games did he wave himself out because he was out of shape? The suspension because he can’t keep his hands off a woman. The Cabo escape because he believed he should get paid more. The car accident the organization had to cover up for him. It goes on and on and on. The guy is a clown. That’s a fact. Sorry if that upsets you Super Duper Fan.
 

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I think Moore has a clue as to what he is doing, I think last season trying to put together any winning game plan on offense was going to be extremely difficult when your offense is limited by the plethora of injuries along the OL.

i'm just basing it off last year, but also basing it off 2019, but also on his still non creativity among his RBs.
The Pollard in slot TD vs Detroit is the only bright spot that year with the RBs
 

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Is this the second dog attack law suit? Was it last year when you got hammered and pushed a worker at a concert? Didn’t he get blasted and fell asleep while live streaming himself playing video games? How many games did he wave himself out because he was out of shape? The suspension because he can’t keep his hands off a woman. The Cabo escape because he believed he should get paid more. The car accident the organization had to cover up for him. It goes on and on and on. The guy is a clown. That’s a fact. Sorry if that upsets you Super Duper Fan.

One thing. Zeke was suspended for a supposed incident that not only did the police find no evidence of but the female investigator found the alleged victim to be untruthful.

Yet he still was suspended cause wokeness and hashtag hertruth.
 

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How am I pulling against them? You super duper fans crack me up. Zeke’s a proven idiot that has not won a damn thing in Dallas. That’s the truth. Sorry if that upsets you Super Fan.
Nobody has won anything in Dallas - what's the point with that?
 

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i'm just basing it off last year, but also basing it off 2019, but also on his still non creativity among his RBs.
The Pollard in slot TD vs Detroit is the only bright spot that year with the RBs

Personally I think given the overall injuries it is hard to base anything off of last years offense performance. From my point of view everything begins and ends with OL, those guys up front allow an offense to be productive or not. Skill position can't do their jobs with any real consistency without them
 

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By all accounts, Zeke is looking good and extra motivated this year. I'm pretty excited to see him in the season.

I just hope he can start making some big plays again. Too often, he settles for less.
I could be living on a superyacht with Megan Fox and Margot Robbie fighting for my attentions, but I settled for less.
 

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One thing. Zeke was suspended for a supposed incident that not only did the police find no evidence of but the female investigator found the alleged victim to be untruthful.

Yet he still was suspended cause wokeness and hashtag hertruth.

He carried a bad reputation from OSU. Wokeness or not that guy finds trouble. The Zeke apologists are legion I guess.
 

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I think Moore has a clue as to what he is doing, I think last season trying to put together any winning game plan on offense was going to be extremely difficult when your offense is limited by the plethora of injuries along the OL.

there are time when i think Moore has it figured out and others he leaves me scratching my head. I got to remind myself at times that there is a defense out there trying to make plays. I dont want to see a steady diet of Zeke with all that talent at WR but i also don't want him forgotten.

I hope he comes back to the 2016 form I just don't see it with all the abuse his body has had. Its clear he's lost some speed and I question his cuts at times but he is a top 10 maybe even top 5 back. Even if i don't care for him I root like hell on sunday
 

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He carried a bad reputation from OSU. Wokeness or not that guy finds trouble. The Zeke apologists are legion I guess.

If apologists means stating the facts of the case then I'm an apologist.

You stated he was guilty of something the police cleared him for. That tells me you can't be taken seriously on the subject.
 

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How many highest paid RBs in the league does Dallas have on the roster? The guy is supposed to lead.
His point was that winning isn't really a fair measure of an individual player, so while I agree with you that Zeke isn't the leader or the responsible person he should be, I have to agree with him on this point. Dak, Zach Martin, Tyron Smith, Amari Cooper and everyone else haven't won either. No matter how good a leader an individual player is, that is just one factor that contributes to a team winning, but there are a boatload of other factors that go into winning, many f which are outside the control of one player
 
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If apologists means stating the facts of the case then I'm an apologist.

You stated he was guilty of something the police cleared him for. That tells me you can't be taken seriously on the subject.
Where did I say he was guilty of a crime? Where? His stupidity got him into a situation that hurt him and the team. I never said he was guilty of anything. Try a reading class for adults. It could help you.
 

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there are time when i think Moore has it figured out and others he leaves me scratching my head. I got to remind myself at times that there is a defense out there trying to make plays. I dont want to see a steady diet of Zeke with all that talent at WR but i also don't want him forgotten.

I hope he comes back to the 2016 form I just don't see it with all the abuse his body has had. Its clear he's lost some speed and I question his cuts at times but he is a top 10 maybe even top 5 back. Even if i don't care for him I root like hell on sunday

I will just say that I know of no offensive system that is built around poor blocking and when we lost 4 of 5 starters and a backup on the OL that kills much of what you want to do. all the talk of short passes so the QB can get it out quicker? defense knows this too, these are not idiots on the other side, they knew what Dallas was contending with add to that a total of 4 QB being played though out the season. Personally I got nothing out of the offense last season but I do think with relatively good health on offense I still think they will be one of the top units in the league.
 

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I will just say that I know of no offensive system that is built around poor blocking and when we lost 4 of 5 starters and a backup on the OL that kills much of what you want to do. all the talk of short passes so the QB can get it out quicker? defense knows this too, these are not idiots on the other side, they knew what Dallas was contending with add to that a total of 4 QB being played though out the season. Personally I got nothing out of the offense last season but I do think with relatively good health on offense I still think they will be one of the top units in the league.
I tend to agree with you. I think last year was a farce
 
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