I have no issues with the end of game clock mismangement

SackMaster

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Look. Do I wish the Cowboys been a little smarter with the clock in the last ~30 seconds of the game? Sure.

But forced, and even worse, unforced errors are a thing. See the KC RB that just flat out drop the football while not being touched towards the end of that game vs Baltimore.

Bad snap, fumble, sack, TFL, interception, false start, holding, illegal shift, illegal formation, delay of game ... or anything else you can think of could have happened, then what was in range for GZ is out of range for GZ.

I do believe the Cowboys coaches were expecting the Chargers to take a timeout, hence no other playcall came in for the offense to run after that last run, but since the Chargers didn't call a TO, I think it played out perfectly.

Why, you might ask?
  1. It was not a FG that if you missed you lost.
  2. But we also made sure that if GZ did miss, LAC could not use their left over TO to try and attempt a last minute Hail Mary.
I get it, no one wanted to go into Overtime in that game, but at the same time, I'm thinking the end of the game clock management issue is being COMPLETELY overblown.

Fact of the matter is, last week we complained about giving TB too much time to make a last minute comeback.

This week Big Mike DID NOT make that mistake .... yet some people, to include the local Dallas media, is dang near calling for MM's head.

I just don't get it, but then again, you are more than welcome to try and change my mind.
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Not going to try and change your mind but the bottom line is something fishy happened with the play clock going out and MM wasn't ready to adjust to it.

Lesson learned for him too I'm sure and he will be more aware next time of other options in case the play clock goes out.

If Greg misses that fg obviously it's a different conversation....what if it came up a yard short?
 

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I would have liked to run another play or two and get more yards.


That being said. Of course making sure to kick the field goal with no time left. So that worse case scenario you go to OT. Was the correct thing to do.
 

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They made one mess-up, not rushing a play or taking an immediate time out, but instead getting caught in between. It's a mistake, but at least they didn't compound it: they said, okay, we screwed up, run the clock down and take the kick.

If a player came off the field who shouldn't have, I'm glad they didn't just rush him back out there, try to make a fast snap and risk a false start. Obviously, it wasn't great but stuff happens.
 

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Look. Do I wish the Cowboys been a little smarter with the clock in the last ~30 seconds of the game? Sure.

But forced, and even worse, unforced errors are a thing. See the KC RB that just flat out drop the football while not being touched towards the end of that game vs Baltimore.

Bad snap, fumble, sack, TFL, interception, false start, holding, illegal shift, illegal formation, delay of game ... or anything else you can think of could have happened, then what was in range for GZ is out of range for GZ.

I do believe the Cowboys coaches were expecting the Chargers to take a timeout, hence no other playcall came in for the offense to run after that last run, but since the Chargers didn't call a TO, I think it played out perfectly.

Why, you might ask?
  1. It was not a FG that if you missed you lost.
  2. But we also made sure that if GZ did miss, LAC could not use their left over TO to try and attempt a last minute Hail Mary.
I get it, no one wanted to go into Overtime in that game, but at the same time, I'm thinking the end of the game clock management issue is being COMPLETELY overblown.

Fact of the matter is, last week we complained about giving TB too much time to make a last minute comeback.

This week Big Mike DID NOT make that mistake .... yet some people, to include the local Dallas media, is dang near calling for MM's head.

I just don't get it, but then again, you are more than welcome to try and change my mind.
:grin:
You are correct sir.
 

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I would have loved to run 1 more play to try to get into better range but given the confusion in personnel with one player not being out there and the issue with the clock I would rather take my chance with a very makeable FG as opposed to making a mistake that could cost you 5 yards and take you out of reasonable FG range. Zuerlein was looking good up to that point and frankly I had confidence prior to the kick that he could make it. Did so with room to spare
 

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Your point would be valid if Mccarthy hadnt already called out that the whole sequence wasnt intentional, and they had to do it because someonecane off the field when they werent supposed to, and he/moore couldnt see the clock...so call it what it is, we got lucky.
 

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Look. Do I wish the Cowboys been a little smarter with the clock in the last ~30 seconds of the game? Sure.

But forced, and even worse, unforced errors are a thing. See the KC RB that just flat out drop the football while not being touched towards the end of that game vs Baltimore.

Bad snap, fumble, sack, TFL, interception, false start, holding, illegal shift, illegal formation, delay of game ... or anything else you can think of could have happened, then what was in range for GZ is out of range for GZ.

I do believe the Cowboys coaches were expecting the Chargers to take a timeout, hence no other playcall came in for the offense to run after that last run, but since the Chargers didn't call a TO, I think it played out perfectly.

Why, you might ask?
  1. It was not a FG that if you missed you lost.
  2. But we also made sure that if GZ did miss, LAC could not use their left over TO to try and attempt a last minute Hail Mary.
I get it, no one wanted to go into Overtime in that game, but at the same time, I'm thinking the end of the game clock management issue is being COMPLETELY overblown.

Fact of the matter is, last week we complained about giving TB too much time to make a last minute comeback.

This week Big Mike DID NOT make that mistake .... yet some people, to include the local Dallas media, is dang near calling for MM's head.

I just don't get it, but then again, you are more than welcome to try and change my mind.
:grin:
19 seconds - timeout. You have time for a pass for a quick out to get 5 more yards. That's what good coaches would have done there. Bad coaches have confusion and almost blow the situation.
 

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Your point would be valid if Mccarthy hadnt already called out that the whole sequence wasnt intentional, and they had to do it because someonecane off the field when they werent supposed to, and he/moore couldnt see the clock...so call it what it is, we got lucky.
I think once Pollard goes down inbounds the timeout is automatic. I don't care whether someone is coming off the field or not.
 

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Not going to try and change your mind but the bottom line is something fishy happened with the play clock going out and MM wasn't ready to adjust to it.

Lesson learned for him too I'm sure and he will be more aware next time of other options in case the play clock goes out.

If Greg misses that fg obviously it's a different conversation....what if it came up a yard short?
Then we go into overtime?

I mean, you would have a point if it was close, but it had PLENTY on it and I'm sure the coaches were aware of what GZ's range was since they see him nearly every day.

Also, it was not a "miss and lose" situation. It was a "make and win" / "miss and go into overtime" situation.

Sure, we could have lost in overtime, but I'm sure if that was the case, we would have had something altogether blame in that scenario.
 

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This post wouldn’t exist had he missed the kick.

The fact it went in and it’s still Nationally viewed as a blunder kinda shows what the right side of this argument is.
They made the winning kick as time ran out. That is exactly what you want. Kind of stupid to argue when the best thing that could of happened actually did happen, which is the winning kick as time expires.
 

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Look. Do I wish the Cowboys been a little smarter with the clock in the last ~30 seconds of the game? Sure.

But forced, and even worse, unforced errors are a thing. See the KC RB that just flat out drop the football while not being touched towards the end of that game vs Baltimore.

Bad snap, fumble, sack, TFL, interception, false start, holding, illegal shift, illegal formation, delay of game ... or anything else you can think of could have happened, then what was in range for GZ is out of range for GZ.

I do believe the Cowboys coaches were expecting the Chargers to take a timeout, hence no other playcall came in for the offense to run after that last run, but since the Chargers didn't call a TO, I think it played out perfectly.

Why, you might ask?
  1. It was not a FG that if you missed you lost.
  2. But we also made sure that if GZ did miss, LAC could not use their left over TO to try and attempt a last minute Hail Mary.
I get it, no one wanted to go into Overtime in that game, but at the same time, I'm thinking the end of the game clock management issue is being COMPLETELY overblown.

Fact of the matter is, last week we complained about giving TB too much time to make a last minute comeback.

This week Big Mike DID NOT make that mistake .... yet some people, to include the local Dallas media, is dang near calling for MM's head.

I just don't get it, but then again, you are more than welcome to try and change my mind.
:grin:

There is a big difference between a 56 yard FG and a 46 yard FG. I believe that was 3rd or 4th longest FG of Zeulein’s career? Hell of a kick by him for sure— but back to Big Mac…

The issue has nothing to do with winding the clock down so your team takes the last second FG. That is exactly what should have happened.

The issue is he wasted precious seconds he could have used to better position his kicker for the GW kick. We absolutely should have taken the TO with 30 secs left… then we are looking to pick up 10+ yards and clock the ball with 3 secs or less left.

In short— his kicker bailed him out. Now— he could have managed the clock well, and GZ may have missed a 45 yarder— so in the end, just learn from the mistake and move on and be thankful for the W lol
 

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They made the winning kick as time ran out. That is exactly what you want. Kind of stupid to argue when the best thing that could of happened actually did happen, which is the winning kick as time expires.


Not stupid at all. You have to really dumb it down to say well the kick went in so they did everything right.
 

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19 seconds - timeout. You have time for a pass for a quick out to get 5 more yards. That's what good coaches would have done there. Bad coaches have confusion and almost blow the situation.
Yet all we heard is how Bosa was going to dominate Steele all game long.

Could you imagine if Bosa had a sack or a big TFL on a last play that didn't "need to" be ran?
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You’re wrong. Accept it. Learn from it. Move on.
 
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