Do the refs really favor Packers/Steelers & scrutinize Cowboys?

[xwalker]

There might really be some truth to the Packers being favored by the refs and/or the Cowboys being more scrutinized by the refs.

In another thread I speculated that McCarthy/Philbin are teaching the infamous holding technique associated with the Packers.

My question was "Are the refs calling holding on Cowboys players for using the same technique that was not penalized when Packers players used it?"

The fact that multiple NFL rules are directly attributed to specific Cowboys players supports this concept:

Mike Irvin:
The Rule: Pushing-off by receivers by allowed until Irvin became know for it.

Mike Irvin:
The Rule: Taunting. Irvin’s trash-talking spurred the NFL to ban taunting during a game.

Emmitt Smith:
The Rule: In 1997, the NFL passed a rule that prohibits a player from removing their helmet while on the field.

Deion Sanders
The Rule: A prorated portion of a player’s signing bonus would be used to count against the team’s salary cap.

Roy Williams
The Rule: In 2005, the NFL owners passed a ban on the horse-collar tackle 27-5.
Repeat offenders, like Williams, would suffer disciplinary action from the league.

Erik Williams:
The Rule: Hands to the Face (Neck): Erik Williams.

Mel Renfro:
The Rule: Tipped pass by offensive player.
Prior to this rule in 1978, a pass tipped by an offensive player could only be incomplete or intercepted.
If a ball was knocked in the air, only a defender was allowed to legally catch it.

Links:
https://whodatdish.com/2014/04/09/considerable-rule-changes-players/4/

https://www.wfaa.com/article/sports...ges-inspired-by-cowboys-players/287-426219509

https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/20...-romo-deion-sanders-marion-barber-mel-renfro/

 

[CATCH17]

I don’t know how anyone can watch that Patriots game last week and say that game was being officiated the same way for both teams.

I also think we’re undefeated right now had it not been for officials in week 1 deciding a close game with crucial calls and no calls.

Levontae David spiking his helmet for a no call.

2 timely holding penalties at the end when we could’ve ran the clock out and kicked a FG to end it. (Dramatics / theatre)

Jourdan Lewis thrown to the floor.

 

[Ranching]

There might really be some truth to the Packers being favored by the refs and/or the Cowboys being more scrutinized by the refs.

In another thread I speculated that McCarthy/Philbin are teaching the infamous holding technique associated with the Packers.

My question was "Are the refs calling holding on Cowboys players for using the same technique that was not penalized when Packers players used it?"

The fact that multiple NFL rules are directly attributed to specific Cowboys players supports this concept:

Mike Irvin:
The Rule: Pushing-off by receivers by allowed until Irvin became know for it.

Mike Irvin:
The Rule: Taunting. Irvin’s trash-talking spurred the NFL to ban taunting during a game.

Emmitt Smith:
The Rule: In 1997, the NFL passed a rule that prohibits a player from removing their helmet while on the field.

Deion Sanders
The Rule: A prorated portion of a player’s signing bonus would be used to count against the team’s salary cap.

Roy Williams
The Rule: In 2005, the NFL owners passed a ban on the horse-collar tackle 27-5.
Repeat offenders, like Williams, would suffer disciplinary action from the league.

Erik Williams:
The Rule: Hands to the Face (Neck): Erik Williams.

Mel Renfro:
The Rule: Tipped pass by offensive player.
Prior to this rule in 1978, a pass tipped by an offensive player could only be incomplete or intercepted.
If a ball was knocked in the air, only a defender was allowed to legally catch it.

Links:
https://whodatdish.com/2014/04/09/considerable-rule-changes-players/4/

https://www.wfaa.com/article/sports...ges-inspired-by-cowboys-players/287-426219509

https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/20...-romo-deion-sanders-marion-barber-mel-renfro/

Next rules will be, no acting like you are eating or wiping your nose after a gaining first down

 

[CT Dal Fan]

Lamb: 10.3 K fine for waving at a Patriot.

Aaron Rodgers:0.00 for yelling "I still own you" at the Bears and their fans.

 

[HeavyBarrel]

Refs may or may not be biased, but they are definitely inconsistent and downright incompetent at times lol

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Refs may or may not be biased, but they are definitely inconsistent and downright incompetent at times lol

That’s exactly what it is.

 

[CATCH17]

That’s exactly what it is.

I don’t know. Some of these calls and the convenience of them is not a coincidence.

I refuse to believe there is never calls made that are more harsh because 1 team is pulling away and they want to keep people interested.

There is too much money at stake for the NFL to not encourage a simple throw of a flag to solve those problems.

 

[CouchCoach]

I do not buy into the Cowboys bias from the refs or the league.

As far as the league is concerned, the TV ratings are the Golden Goose and no team lays better eggs than the Cowboys. If anything, I could see them leaning the other direction.

I do not know why this happened but one of the reasons the Cowboys are disliked as much as they are is because of how many fans always blamed the refs for losses and that is real, I've seen that for over 50 years and it is the ultimate in whining.

Humans are fallible. Officials are human. Therefore, officials are fallible.

The speed at which these players are moving and at which the human eye moves amazes me that they can get some of those calls as they do.

The area that is always questionable are the judgment calls and those with regards to what constitutes holding and PI can be very inconsistent and actually from game to game with the same crews.

However, I do think since there is already a chip in the ball, they could activate that for TD's and remove that part of it.

 

[AmishCowboy]

Hard to argue against after last Sunday

 

[CATCH17]

I do not buy into the Cowboys bias from the refs or the league.

As far as the league is concerned, the TV ratings are the Golden Goose and no team lays better eggs than the Cowboys. If anything, I could see them leaning the other direction.

I do not know why this happened but one of the reasons the Cowboys are disliked as much as they are is because of how many fans always blamed the refs for losses and that is real, I've seen that for over 50 years and it is the ultimate in whining.

Humans are fallible. Officials are human. Therefore, officials are fallible.

The speed at which these players are moving and at which the human eye moves amazes me that they can get some of those calls as they do.

The area that is always questionable are the judgment calls and those with regards to what constitutes holding and PI can be very inconsistent and actually from game to game with the same crews.

However, I do think since there is already a chip in the ball, they could activate that for TD's and remove that part of it.

The Cowboys don’t need to win anything for them to be an unbelievable asset to the league.

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers? Now that’s a team nobody cares about unless they are winning so it makes sense to help them out like we saw in the NFC championship game a year ago.

It makes sense to get a LA team to the Super Bowl and build that brand more than it does Dallas.

Dallas can show up to nearly any NFL city and take over 30% of the stadium minimum.

 

[jazzcat22]

I shouldn't comment, as I am singled out by 3 posters all they time for such comments, and no one else is from them.

But I WILL comment. Hell yes there is a bias...that is all...

 

[Ranched]

One has to remember every fan from around the league, feels the same way, not just Dallas fans.

From what I understand, refs in general don't have any interest whatsoever. Those who do are promptly demoted or fired.

 

[terra]

I do not buy into the Cowboys bias from the refs or the league.

As far as the league is concerned, the TV ratings are the Golden Goose and no team lays better eggs than the Cowboys. If anything, I could see them leaning the other direction.

I do not know why this happened but one of the reasons the Cowboys are disliked as much as they are is because of how many fans always blamed the refs for losses and that is real, I've seen that for over 50 years and it is the ultimate in whining.

Humans are fallible. Officials are human. Therefore, officials are fallible.

The speed at which these players are moving and at which the human eye moves amazes me that they can get some of those calls as they do.

The area that is always questionable are the judgment calls and those with regards to what constitutes holding and PI can be very inconsistent and actually from game to game with the same crews.

However, I do think since there is already a chip in the ball, they could activate that for TD's and remove that part of it.

Frankly sounds like you refuse to consider the possibility. Which is pretty stupid.

 

[terra]

One has to remember every fan from around the league, feels the same way, not just Dallas fans.

From what I understand, refs in general don't have any interest whatsoever. Those who do are promptly demoted or fired.

why don't you list some examples of this. Because I have heard nothing about any refs actually being FIRED in years.

 

[Creeper]

I never liked the horse-collar tackle rule and I still don't. I get why they banned it but the problem is injuries are not caused by the horse-collar tackle, they are caused by the defender falling on the back of the ball-carrier's legs and feet. Of course when you grab a guy by the shoulder pads and pull him backward and you land on his legs with him being bent backwards it is awkward and certainly bad for the legs. The problem is, any time you tackle a guy by pulling him backwards while diving on his legs it will cause the same injuries. You can grab a guy by his jersey and do it. In fact, you don't even had to pull him backwards to hurt him. Trevon Diggs injured his ankle when the tackler just landed on his feet tackling him from behind.

Roy Williams used the HC tackle all the time and the way he did it was dangerous because he used to pull the guy by his pads while throwing his body on the legs of the opponent. But now they call the same penalty even if the guy grabs the pads and doesn't land on his legs. I think this should be a legal tackle.

 

[CouchCoach]

Frankly sounds like you refuse to consider the possibility. Which is pretty stupid.

No, what is stupid is assuming I haven't considered the possibility since this has been around for as long as it has and discounted it.

What is stupid is not considering motive and purpose behind any such actions and the benefit derived from that.

Others can believe what they want as that makes them feel better and in support that the only way their team can lose is if the refs cheat them out of it. I stated what I believe and at no time did I call them stupid for what they believe and I do not appreciate that from you.

 

[Teague31]

If the Cowboys had been the franchise to start the “lambeau leap” it would have been banned 25 years ago.

 

[jazzcat22]

If the Cowboys had been the franchise to start the “lambeau leap” it would have been banned 25 years ago.

Post of the day as it is very true.

 

[ESisback]

There might really be some truth to the Packers being favored by the refs and/or the Cowboys being more scrutinized by the refs.

In another thread I speculated that McCarthy/Philbin are teaching the infamous holding technique associated with the Packers.

My question was "Are the refs calling holding on Cowboys players for using the same technique that was not penalized when Packers players used it?"

The fact that multiple NFL rules are directly attributed to specific Cowboys players supports this concept:

Mike Irvin:
The Rule: Pushing-off by receivers by allowed until Irvin became know for it.

Mike Irvin:
The Rule: Taunting. Irvin’s trash-talking spurred the NFL to ban taunting during a game.

Emmitt Smith:
The Rule: In 1997, the NFL passed a rule that prohibits a player from removing their helmet while on the field.

Deion Sanders
The Rule: A prorated portion of a player’s signing bonus would be used to count against the team’s salary cap.

Roy Williams
The Rule: In 2005, the NFL owners passed a ban on the horse-collar tackle 27-5.
Repeat offenders, like Williams, would suffer disciplinary action from the league.

Erik Williams:
The Rule: Hands to the Face (Neck): Erik Williams.

Mel Renfro:
The Rule: Tipped pass by offensive player.
Prior to this rule in 1978, a pass tipped by an offensive player could only be incomplete or intercepted.
If a ball was knocked in the air, only a defender was allowed to legally catch it.

Links:
https://whodatdish.com/2014/04/09/considerable-rule-changes-players/4/

https://www.wfaa.com/article/sports...ges-inspired-by-cowboys-players/287-426219509

https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/20...-romo-deion-sanders-marion-barber-mel-renfro/

Get ready for scoffing and scolding from the forum know-it-all “realist”! His priority isn’t Cowboy wins, but defining reality, disproving conspiracy theories, and supporting everyone EXCEPT the Cowboys.

While Dallas is largely responsible for their own failures, anyone without an agenda has likely noticed SOMETHING odd. I always point to what SEEMS like an unusual amount of holding penalties at the worst possible, game changing moments. Remember that stretch of eight consecutive games without ONE holding penalty against our opponents? Of course, the incidents you cite here only add to the list that makes one wonder.

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

Refs may or may not be biased, but they are definitely inconsistent and downright incompetent at times lol

Naw it can’t be inconsistent and incompetent because then it would go both ways. The inconsistent and incompetent calls I. This case only seems to go one way