Twitter: NFL does not fine Harrison Smith for play involving CeeDee Lamb

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Watching the game against the Patriots where they were hosing us with penalties or against the Vikings where they literally marched them down the field with, what, 45 yards worth of penalties, there is something going on.
If there was "something going on" in the Patriots game, they could have sealed the win for the Patriots in OT. Instead, they didn't call the facemask (IIRC) and NE had to punt.

I'm not saying they've called every penalty legitimately, there have been more than enough bad calls. But I don't think they're doing it on purpose, just to get us.
 

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Lamb survived and didn't even black out, Smith should forget WWE as a career after the NFL if he can't even choke out a skinny guy like Lamb. Have you looked at Lamb's neck? A child could choke that pencil neck, Merton Hanks is the only player in NFL history with a smaller neck, you could choke him out with two fingers.

They must be taking Smith's word as you can't tell from that angle what is going on but I would like to know if Smith tried to explain himself to Lamb because that sure looked like a choke. However, Smith has the reputation as a hard charger but not a dirty player so unlike Vontaze Burfict trying to explain that, Smith was easier to believe.
 

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Lamb survived and didn't even black out, Smith should forget WWE as a career after the NFL if he can't even choke out a skinny guy like Lamb. Have you looked at Lamb's neck? A child could choke that pencil neck, Merton Hanks is the only player in NFL history with a smaller neck, you could choke him out with two fingers.

They must be taking Smith's word as you can't tell from that angle what is going on but I would like to know if Smith tried to explain himself to Lamb because that sure looked like a choke. However, Smith has the reputation as a hard charger but not a dirty player so unlike Vontaze Burfict trying to explain that, Smith was easier to believe.
Nice summary! ...but you just had to remind me of Merton Hanks, didn't ya? I always hope his head would snap off and roll out the back of the end zone when he was doing that stupid celebration of his.
 

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If there was "something going on" in the Patriots game, they could have sealed the win for the Patriots in OT. Instead, they didn't call the facemask (IIRC) and NE had to punt.

I'm not saying they've called every penalty legitimately, there have been more than enough bad calls. But I don't think they're doing it on purpose, just to get us.
More Cowboys fans silliness and it is the reason why a lot of people do not like the Cowboys, their fans.

The refs hate us, we're persecuted and my favorite..... Goodell and the league office are denying the Golden Goose a share of it's eggs.

The refs make bad calls and they make them for and against every team. The NFL has given them too much power over the outcome of games.

Every time we hear "well, looks like the refs are going to let them play" is a condemnation of the consistency of officiating in the league.

It is getting harder to watch college games with the constant reviews and the start/stop motion of games.
 

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More Cowboys fans silliness and it is the reason why a lot of people do not like the Cowboys, their fans.

The refs hate us, we're persecuted and my favorite..... Goodell and the league office are denying the Golden Goose a share of it's eggs.

The refs make bad calls and they make them for and against every team. The NFL has given them too much power over the outcome of games.

Every time we hear "well, looks like the refs are going to let them play" is a condemnation of the consistency of officiating in the league.

It is getting harder to watch college games with the constant reviews and the start/stop motion of games.
The game stoppage sucks, but I'd rather have a review of every single play than have even a couple of bad calls change the outcome of the game. I think they should have a couple of extra officials watching on monitors who could review plays without stopping the clock, unless they saw something obvious that should be called or negated.
 

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The game stoppage sucks, but I'd rather have a review of every single play than have even a couple of bad calls change the outcome of the game. I think they should have a couple of extra officials watching on monitors who could review plays without stopping the clock, unless they saw something obvious that should be called or negated.
I'd add more cameras and not at inconclusive angles.
 

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I didn't ridicule anyone. If you think my disagreeing with your point of view is the same as ridicule, that would mesh the conspiracy belief. The only video I saw showed his arm off to the side of the neck, leaving his hand as the only possible thing that could choke him.
Well okay...I thought it was a bit insulting the way you phrased your "out to get us " comment.

If you think Zeke's 2017 suspension was not "out to get anyone"....well let's just say when the police say she lied, her friends said she lied (and tried to get them to lie) and the female NFL investigator said she lied...and he suspended Zeke anyway....is an abject and open FARCE.

Ceedee gets fined for waving......but the NFL said THIS was an "accident"?

Thopse games where we got no holding calls against their defense? For HOW LONG?

And some of those hits on Romo were absolutely ridiculous.

Now do all teams think refs are against them? Of course. Well most I;d guess right? But there are a few HERE....that seem way out of the ordinary.

I also realize it makes one look more....sophisticated to reject the notion. That's fine.
 
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Well okay...I thought it was a bit insulting the way you phrased your "out to get us " comment.

If you think Zeke's 2017 suspension was not "out to get anyone"....well let's just say when the police say she lied, her friends said she lied (and tried to get them to lie) and the female NFL investigator said she lied...and he suspended Zeke anyway....is an abject and open FARCE.

Ceedee gets fined for waving......but the NFL said THIS was an "accident"?

Thopse games where we got no holding calls against their defense? For HOW LONG?

And some of those hits on Romo were absolutely ridiculous.

Now do all teams think refs are against them? Of course. Well most I;d guess right? But there are a few HERE....that seem way out of the ordinary.

I also realize it makes one look more....sophisticated to reject the notion. That's fine.
I agree the whole Zeke suspension thing was garbage, but if he hadn't been seen on video, lifting a girl's shirt at a parade, while his case was under review, maybe they don't come down on him.

CeeDee's fine was also over the top, but within the guidelines if the system. Do I think he should have been fined? No, I don't, especially when they used that clip to promote their product.

As for this, it looks like Smith might have been choking Lamb, but A) I'm not sure he was, because there's no definitive camera angle, and B) None of Lamb's teammates who were right there watching jumped on Smith or even had words with him. So how could the league justify fining him?

As for my use of the phrase, "out to get us", why do you consider that insulting when that's exactly how some people feel? When you say things like, "The league hates the Cowboys", or "Goodell wants them to make sure we don't win", etc. (Not saying you've said those things) is that not the same as saying that they're out to get us?
 

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I agree the whole Zeke suspension thing was garbage, but if he hadn't been seen on video, lifting a girl's shirt at a parade, while his case was under review, maybe they don't come down on him.

CeeDee's fine was also over the top, but within the guidelines if the system. Do I think he should have been fined? No, I don't, especially when they used that clip to promote their product.

As for this, it looks like Smith might have been choking Lamb, but A) I'm not sure he was, because there's no definitive camera angle, and B) None of Lamb's teammates who were right there watching jumped on Smith or even had words with him. So how could the league justify fining him?

As for my use of the phrase, "out to get us", why do you consider that insulting when that's exactly how some people feel? When you say things like, "The league hates the Cowboys", or "Goodell wants them to make sure we don't win", etc. (Not saying you've said those things) is that not the same as saying that they're out to get us?
For the record...I certainly do not use the phrase "out to get us".

I believe the zeke suspension had nothing to do with zeke personally. Jerry was in a very public feud with GODell, as Dallas was very poised to made a run. What better way to derail that than take away their new superstar?

And I am not sure that was ever put to bed. We've been on the bad end of some significant calls/no calls. Like some other teams I am sure. But if we keep ignoring them as some normal occurrences...how do you add them all up?

I also believe calls/no calls are not created equal. The same count does not equal the same effect.

Is it a league/ref conspiracy? Not sure. But I do question some things....which give more weight to a conspicuous bias.
 

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For the record...I certainly do not use the phrase "out to get us".

I believe the zeke suspension had nothing to do with zeke personally. Jerry was in a very public feud with GODell, as Dallas was very poised to made a run. What better way to derail that than take away their new superstar?

And I am not sure that was ever put to bed. We've been on the bad end of some significant calls/no calls. Like some other teams I am sure. But if we keep ignoring them as some normal occurrences...how do you add them all up?

I also believe calls/no calls are not created equal. The same count does not equal the same effect.

Is it a league/ref conspiracy? Not sure. But I do question some things....which give more weight to a conspicuous bias.
I believe there are probably individual officials who are biased, and that may affect their calls, whether intentionally or not, but I don't believe there's any conspiracy against us
 

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The refs have been absolute trash all year. Especially in regards to personal fouls. They have also been highly inconsistent in other areas. Putrid. It certainly isn't just directed at the Cowboys. I've watched other games. I remember just recently the Browns getting screwed. The Dolphins took it in the blow hole one of these weeks.
 

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Because the Cowboys are our team, and we support them no matter what. What's the matter? Can't handle the truth of how the NFL runs their business? Does it affect your "perfect world" view of this obvious corrupt league so much that it ruins your willingness to watch this?

You support the Cowboys so much you think the league has a bias against them. That’s ridiculous! Did you watch the Chargers game in week two? Practically every call when against them. It’s the main reason we won that game. Every big play they made got called back including a TD. They gave us a sack on a no sack. It’s fans like you that can’t handle the truth. If you think the league is corrupt don’t watch the games. The most scrutinized part of the game is the officiating. I wouldn’t watch any sport that I thought was rigged. Some of the comments made by fans on this board about the league make me question their sanity. I don’t take many seriously here I just roll my eyes and laugh.
 
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