Video: Kurt Warner break: Dak Prescott vs Saints

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At the 15 minute mark Warner is talking about the high low and Dak needs to take a deeper drop. I surely would never doubt Warner's opinion, but if Dak took another two steps deeper, the defensive end would circle Tyron and sack Dak.

I also note that the posters here seem to ignore the mistakes either by the receivers, or Kellen Moore's play selections.

Some of those muddled routes that were bunched make no damn sense.

Dak needs to set his feet.
 

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It does seem to me like Dak has lost confidence in his OL to afford him the time he needs to read correctly. As a result, in many cases, he tends to rush his throws before the necessary separation takes place. Kurt Warner was consistently calling for Dak to stay with his reads.
 

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My opinion, for what that is worth is the line play for Dallas is eroding as the season goes on. The Saints got to Dak and moved him off his spot. This critique shows Dak back pedaling and not setting his feet. He is a tough guy. I do not believe he is shell shocked as much as he feels the pressure and is making evasive moves and not setting up for the throw.

I like Dak. But I also understand he is not Mahomes and can throw from many angles.
 

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Teams are actually not blitzing more--they are getting more pressure without having to due to the OL issues of late.

The team has won every game in which they have kept the pressure rate under 16%.

Not what I'm seeing. A lot of the pressure he's feeling is on the blitz. Whether they are doing it more or just more effectively, I don't know. But they are getting in his face with it. It was even pointed out by the broadcast team that New Orleans was blitzing at times when usually it is not much of a blitzing team.
 

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My opinion, for what that is worth is the line play for Dallas is eroding as the season goes on. The Saints got to Dak and moved him off his spot. This critique shows Dak back pedaling and not setting his feet. He is a tough guy. I do not believe he is shell shocked as much as he feels the pressure and is making evasive moves and not setting up for the throw.

I like Dak. But I also understand he is not Mahomes and can throw from many angles.

Much easier analysis to say Dak sucks and is overpaid. That said he has happy feet because of recent line play IMO
 

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You didn’t expose anyone. You said something very stupid and used emojis like a teenage girl.

We’re talking football here. Go make us a sandwich.
What did emojis and teenage girls do to get dragged into this? :(
 

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I wouldn’t think a calf strain would give him happy feet and give up on things so quickly.

He’s just feeling pressure that isn’t there.

He needs to chill and make his reads. Dallas has to run better until he is comfortable again.

Coming back from his broken ankle, he admitted that part of the hard part was just trusting it and getting back to playing without thinking about it (paraphrase). I think he did that well and it's possible getting another injury to that same leg has got it in his head that he has to protect himself. That can cause things like not planting when a defender is coming at you, getting rid of the ball prematurely, happy feet, etc. Numbers show that Dak is generally very good against the blitz, but from what I've seen, he hasn't been near as good since he returned from that injury.

Feeling pressure that isn't there can be another sign that it's a mental issue.
 

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Probably the reason teams have taken to blitzing us more (the Broncos blueprint). Their idea seems to be to overload our front with bodies to stop the run or pressure Prescott. They are trying to mix up who they are sending so at times they can still run zone, drop out linemen, etc. Teams that blitz can get burned, but we're not doing a good job of doing that right now. We should be hitting hot reads at the very least, but that's not happening often enough to deter the blitz. If we don't adjust, teams will continue to follow that formula.

Warner mentioned in the KC game break down there was no hot read on a blitz and thinks Moore is to be blamed for that.

All four WR ran vertical routes on that play . Reminded me of a JG play we used to run all the time
 

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Dak & Derek Carr are in completely different situations with completely different supporting casts around them.

Dak is in QB paradise for the most part.

Paradise ? Far from it with the OL playing poorly and no running game due to the braintrust playing a broken Zeke. Add in Lamb and Einstein Cooper being out. And I’m no Dakster.
 

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Warner mentioned in the KC game break down there was no hot read on a blitz and thinks Moore is to be blamed for that.

All four WR ran vertical routes on that play . Reminded me of JG play.

Yeah. I think we've been doing a poor job of our routes against the blitz. I know Dak said something after this last game about being greedy and not taking what's there, but from what I've seen, there hasn't been a lot there for him to get the ball out quickly.
 

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Not what I'm seeing. A lot of the pressure he's feeling is on the blitz. Whether they are doing it more or just more effectively, I don't know. But they are getting in his face with it. It was even pointed out by the broadcast team that New Orleans was blitzing at times when usually it is not much of a blitzing team.
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Probably the reason teams have taken to blitzing us more (the Broncos blueprint). Their idea seems to be to overload our front with bodies to stop the run or pressure Prescott. They are trying to mix up who they are sending so at times they can still run zone, drop out linemen, etc. Teams that blitz can get burned, but we're not doing a good job of doing that right now. We should be hitting hot reads at the very least, but that's not happening often enough to deter the blitz. If we don't adjust, teams will continue to follow that formula.

Oline isnt holding up, so if they blitz and play man the receivers have less time to get open.

Line has to block and give that extra second for the receiver to come free.
 

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Dak is not comfortable with the OL ( may be with McGovern change) or not so fit Tyrone. He seems to bail off and start scrambling instead of staying with his reads. He need to start going back and stay with the reads and deliver , instead of scrambling to his left
 

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We were really doing well against the blitz early on, but not so much lately. May just be a change in how they are doing it. I know at times, like last week, that instead of blitzing per se, the Saints brought secondary/second-level players from the outside and dropped a couple of linemen. So it doesn't count as a blitz, but they caused our linemen to be caught trying to block players who weren't coming, leaving an open lane to the quarterback for the "blitzer."

One way to throw off blocking schemes is to not send the players who are expected to rush. Sending linebackers instead of linemen, for example. I think teams are mixing it up instead of just trying to straight match up with our front. I also think the increase in press coverage has played a role in that. Holding up the receivers while you send non-traditional pressure is one way to get home.
 

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Oline isnt holding up, so if they blitz and play man the receivers have less time to get open.

Line has to block and give that extra second for the receiver to come free.

I think we have to run blitz/man beaters. One way to do that would be like New Orleans did on a couple of their bigger plays: Run rub routes to pick off the man defender.
 

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At the 15 minute mark Warner is talking about the high low and Dak needs to take a deeper drop. I surely would never doubt Warner's opinion, but if Dak took another two steps deeper, the defensive end would circle Tyron and sack Dak.

I also note that the posters here seem to ignore the mistakes either by the receivers, or Kellen Moore's play selections.

Some of those muddled routes that were bunched make no damn sense.

Dak needs to set his feet.

Absolutely, and this clip only illustrated the plays Warner felt needed improvement. It was very one sided.

Maybe we should see the better plays as well before deciding he can't make reads ect. While he does need to play better this wasn't a fair assessment either. There were a few passes him holding the ball longer or stepping into it would likely have resulted in a sack. The INT he says the opposition hit the ball at release, but neglects the fact they actually committed a penalty hitting Dak in the face.
 

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I think we have to run blitz/man beaters. One way to do that would be like New Orleans did on a couple of their bigger plays: Run rub routes to pick off the man defender.

Nothing will ever get back to how it was if the Oline doesnt start playing well again. If we can just get back to:

Steele, Martin, Biadasz, Collins, Smith

I think we start to dominate again. But regardless, they need to start featuring Pollard and more outside runs. to keep the defense honest.
 

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We were really doing well against the blitz early on, but not so much lately. May just be a change in how they are doing it. I know at times, like last week, that instead of blitzing per se, the Saints brought secondary/second-level players from the outside and dropped a couple of linemen. So it doesn't count as a blitz, but they caused our linemen to be caught trying to block players who weren't coming, leaving an open lane to the quarterback for the "blitzer."

One way to throw off blocking schemes is to not send the players who are expected to rush. Sending linebackers instead of linemen, for example. I think teams are mixing it up instead of just trying to straight match up with our front. I also think the increase in press coverage has played a role in that. Holding up the receivers while you send non-traditional pressure is one way to get home.

You are correct. Team have been disguising coverage more often. This coupled with no running game and the OL having trouble has really thrown off this offense.
 

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This is a great analysis after the game. Hindsight is 20-20. But it confirms what some of us have thought and that is that the offense has suffered because Dak is not seeing the field as well as he did earlier in the season. He left a lot of meat on the bone in the Saints game. Gallup was open a number of times and CeeDee was open for one big play. The QB position is such a mental challenge, but KW is right. Dak needs to be more disciplined with his reads and he needs to be a tad more patient. The good Dak is sometimes taking sacks for holding the ball too long. This Dak is rushing his throws and throwing with poor mechanics. It is the second half of 2019 all over again.

This is why I have been adamant about not paying Dak $40 million. He has to show he can be the good Dak for an entire season, not just the first 7 or 8 games. The good Dak would have won 11 games already. This Dak is going to struggled to win games.
 
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