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I was really hoping he'd come up with that INT vs the Saints, but nope! So close.
 

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I'm in the "bring in Cunningham" crowd. He's really good against the run and we have no one besides Parsons. LVE is a liability now just like Jaylon was. It's a shame but it is reality.

I'm in that camp too. He'd be a rental anyway. Why not try?
 

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For those who want Cunningham, why would Houston release this player and take a 5.6 million hit this year and a 12.8 million hit on 2022 cap if he is so good?

Those numbers say buyer beware for some reason.
Low risk, high reward. He'd be very cheap for the last month of the season. If he doesn't work out, cut bait. If he plays lights out, that only helps our playoff chances. Use him and if he's just a terrible person/teammate, drop him after the season.
 

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LVE should of been cut before Jaylon. IMHO

Absolutely not.

LVE is still decent at football. Jaylon was lost on the field. Terrible.

LVE will likely play 4 or 5 more years minimum. Jaylon is likely done.
 

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Wow, The kid and I have been trash taking LVE for a while now. He's not good and is negative on this defense. Gimme back Jaylon at this point. Well, crap, maybe not that either. Get another LB in there all together.
 

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Let's take a look at some stats for LVE:

Tackles: 50 combined, 33 solos
Sacks: 1
Pressures: 3
completion % against: 75%
Yards allowed (receptions): 232
Completions/Targets: 21/28
YAC: 213
Passer rating against: 99.1
Missed tackles: 6
Missed tackle %: 10.7%

So, to sum it up, he can't tackle and he can't cover. Passed time for him to sit.
I'm pretty I've seen him miss more than 6 tackles. They must not be including those instances where he doesn't attempt the tackle.
 

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LMAO not close to the truth but hey im well aware of the overactive replies around here full of estrogen..hope that clears up..good luck
Blah blah blah. Dude you are so full of ish it's not funny. I know you think that you are an alpha but I don't think your bark would be so big face to face.
 

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Loved lve. Bought his jersey when his # 55 was set after the draft. Thought we had the next great lber. Didn't work out unfortunately. Hes still better than jacklyn though lol. Can't believe that guy got Jerry's money lmao. Jacklyn one of the most embarrassing dallas players to ever wear the star!
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Blah blah blah. Dude you are so full of ish it's not funny. I know you think that you are an alpha but I don't think your bark would be so big face to face.
ahh reposts top threats also not much bite from a keyboard.next
 

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Heath always gave max effort and layed the wood when the opportunity presented itself. Heath was also a UDFA not a 1st round pick.
I remember him trying to blast people with a shoulder injury, lol.
 

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LVE's injuries in the past have prevented him from performing at his best. Fans trashing his effort or any other personal crap need to get a clue. You can clearly see he's not as mobile and has slowed down.
I see nothing wrong with LVE's effort. I have no doubt he plays hard. I do think he isn't as instinctive or naturally aggressive as he would ideally be, or would be expected from a 1st rounder.
 

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:laugh: That's not how Sean Lee taught them both to LB though...

I was thinking about this yesterday. In a little over a years time, the linebacker corps will be completely turned over. Lee, Smith, (and soon) LVE all gone.

Too bad Lee couldn’t play one more season. I think he’d fit in well next to Parsons.
 

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Blah blah blah. Dude you are so full of ish it's not funny. I know you think that you are an alpha but I don't think your bark would be so big face to face.

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I see nothing wrong with LVE's effort. I have no doubt he plays hard. I do think he isn't as instinctive or naturally aggressive as he would ideally be, or would be expected from a 1st rounder.
2018 he was ranked among the best and had a productive season. In 2019, after his neck injury which involved nerve issues he wasn't the same. Then in 202 is broke his collarbone and then had another surgery. It just looks to me that he's physically limited and playing stiff. I've seen this before. You can see him make attempts to get to the ball carrier, but he's a couple steps slow and severely lack flexibility shedding blockers.
 

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Heath always gave max effort and layed the wood when the opportunity presented itself. Heath was also a UDFA not a 1st round pick.

All true. I just remember epic, relentless venom directed at Heath. There were always a couple of threads on how bad he sucked, and how he needed to be gone. Don’t you remember?
 
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