Twitter: Wince vs Dak

[Scottishcowboy]

You nailed it.. when the Cowboys win a Super Bowl with Dak at the helm.. "It was the defense, it was the running game, it was the receivers, it was the offensive line, it was the genius of the OC..." ABD baby.. ABD..

I get so annoyed Ronnie, I really do.

Wentz is apparently doing well now but Dak did well because Zeke carried him! ehhhhhhhh......Taylor.

 

[Aulac]

Did he actually win the MVP? again show me FACTS that say Wentz is better at playing QB than Dak.....I'll wait....you have plenty of Data to look at...again I think you already know the Data will not help you so your avoiding it..

I mean you are seriously going to tell me that you think Dak is better than Wentz? Did you forget how Wentz and no receivers beat Dak two years ago? Like it one thing to be a homer, but let be realistic here.

 

[CowboyFrog]

I get so annoyed Ronnie, I really do.

Wentz is apparently doing well now but Dak did well because Zeke carried him! ehhhhhhhh......Taylor.

There is a saying in this forum..there are some here that when it comes to Dak would not let Facts get in the way of a good agenda driven story...

 

[CowboyFrog]

I mean you are seriously going to tell me that you think Dak is better than Wentz? Did you forget how Wentz and no receivers beat Dak two years ago? Like it one thing to be a homer, but let be realistic here.

So show me the Data that says Wentz is the better QB....its really simple...you can use google.

 

[RonnieT24]

I mean you are seriously going to tell me that you think Dak is better than Wentz? Did you forget how Wentz and no receivers beat Dak two years ago? Like it one thing to be a homer, but let be realistic here.

Wentz was able to win three games against Dak .. one of which Dak only played one series. In games that they both finished he was 2-5 against Dak. Dak has better passing numbers.. has won more games.. has beaten Wentz more head to head... but you are still clinging to the "Wentz is better" canard? Dude let it go. Dak is better.. Wentz knew it that's why he ran out of the division and even out of the conference. LOL!

 

[RonnieT24]

So show me the Data that says Wentz is the better QB....its really simple...you can use google.

You and I both know there is no source he can summon that is going to back up his claims. It's the eye test! Wentz just "looks" more like he wants a QB to look apparently.. To each his own I guess.

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

I mean you are seriously going to tell me that you think Dak is better than Wentz? Did you forget how Wentz and no receivers beat Dak two years ago? Like it one thing to be a homer, but let be realistic here.

If you we're going to look at past seasons, then why not look at the season where Wentz went 5-6, with the same team that Foles manage to salvage and take into the playoffs, when they looked like they were going to miss it all together with Wentz as the QB? The claims are that Dak is always surrounded by way more talented teams, but the facts are that Wentz has been on several talented rosters who have managed to do just fine without him and even better without him like they did in 2018.

 

[Aulac]

Wentz was able to win three games against Dak .. one of which Dak only played one series. In games that they both finished he was 2-5 against Dak. Dak has better passing numbers.. has won more games.. has beaten Wentz more head to head... but you are still clinging to the "Wentz is better" canard? Dude let it go. Dak is better.. Wentz knew it that's why he ran out of the division and even out of the conference. LOL!

Stat without context is meaningless. Just look at Cousins, great stats, (better than Dak), and Vikings fans want him traded. You forgot to take into account of the culture of each franchise. We have very low standard compare to the Eagles, Rams, and to some extend the Vikings.

The Rams would have traded Dak for Stafford, though he probably does not beat the Saints in the NFCCG (subjective opinion), and he doesn't get a contract extension, and is traded to another team.

I hate stats so much, and I even use it a lot to prove my argument but it just not real solid proof of anything without context.

 

[Screw The Hall]

Taylor is on the shortlist for MVP, probably will finish 2nd or 3rd, guess he conveniently forgot about that.

 

[CowboyFrog]

Stat without context is meaningless. Just look at Cousins, great stats, (better than Dak), and Vikings fans want him traded. You forgot to take into account of the culture of each franchise. We have very low standard compare to the Eagles, Rams, and to some extend the Vikings.

The Rams would have traded Dak for Stafford, though he probably does not beat the Saints in the NFCCG (subjective opinion), and he doesn't get a contract extension, and is traded to another team.

I hate stats so much, and I even use it a lot to prove my argument but it just not real solid proof of anything without context.

Yes we know you hate facts because they kill your agenda....I cant speak for Vikes fans but if Cousins is not the problem then he is not the problem...it's a team game as you like to say when it helps your agenda...but again you have no facts to back up your claim so as I said its just a biased opinion and a bad one when put up against the facts....

 

[Aulac]

If you we're going to look at past seasons, then why not look at the season where Wentz went 5-6, with the same team that Foles manage to salvage and take into the playoffs, when they looked like they were going to miss it all together with Wentz as the QB? The claims are that Dak is always surrounded by way more talented teams, but the facts are that Wentz has been on several talented rosters who have managed to do just fine without him and even better without him like they did in 2018.

You have a point, but I think it has to do with regression due to injurie. Both Wince and Goff regressed, but are making a comeback. I think both just needed a change of scenery.

I am a huge Wince hater, so it not with bias here. Grant I hate Dak too. But I hate Wince more than Dak.

 

[Cowpolk]

This is like comparing Dog poop to Bacon

 

[Aulac]

Yes we know you hate facts because they kill your agenda....I cant speak for Vikes fans but if Cousins is not the problem then he is not the problem...it's a team game as you like to say when it helps your agenda...but again you have no facts to back up your claim so as I said its just a biased opinion and a bad one when put up against the facts....

The Vikings have gotten worst since they traded or signed Cousins. He is is 58-59 in his career. That mean he has more loss than wins. All of his stats is meaningless when his team is under .500.

 

[RonnieT24]

Stat without context is meaningless. Just look at Cousins, great stats, (better than Dak), and Vikings fans want him traded. You forgot to take into account of the culture of each franchise. We have very low standard compare to the Eagles, Rams, and to some extend the Vikings.

The Rams would have traded Dak for Stafford, though he probably does not beat the Saints in the NFCCG (subjective opinion), and he doesn't get a contract extension, and is traded to another team.


I hate stats so much, and I even use it a lot to prove my argument but it just not real solid proof of anything without context.

Good point.. Dak having better stats means nothing without context.. Dak winning more games means nothing.. Dak beating Wentz head to head also .. nothing. The only thing that matters is that Wentz beat Dak one time three years ago.. That's the only game that matters.. The rest? I'm not even sure they ever really even happened.. Only that one time back in 2019.. That was the one that counts.. Right?

 

[CowboyFrog]

You have a point, but I think it has to do with regression due to injurie. Both Wince and Goff regressed, but are making a comeback. I think both just needed a change of scenery.

I am a huge Wince hater, so it not with bias here. Grant I hate Dak too. But I hate Wince more than Dak.

Why not just stick with "I hate Dak" ...thats why you have that bad opinion...I have no problem with posters being truthful about why they have opinions...

 

[Aulac]

Good point.. Dak having better stats means nothing without context.. Dak winning more games means nothing.. Dak beating Wentz head to head also .. nothing. The only thing that matters is that Wentz beat Dak one time three years ago.. That's the only game that matters.. The rest? I'm not even sure they ever really even happened.. Only that one time back in 2019.. That was the one that counts.. Right?

Wince has a really poor attitude, and even though I'm a Dak hater, I hate Wince more. Wince is just so emotionally immature.

 

[Aulac]

Why not just stick with "I hate Dak" ...thats why you have that bad opinion...I have not problem with posters being truthful about why they have opinions...

I hate Dak because of the money issue, I didn't hate Dak in the past. I only started to hate him after that Shiggles game two years ago. That was when I turned on Dak and he has not proved me to be wrong otherwise. He is very limited and already reached his ceiling.

 

[CowboyFrog]

I hate Dak because of the money issue, I didn't hate Dak in the past. I only started to hate him after that Shiggles game two years ago. That was when I turned on Dak and he has not proved me to be wrong otherwise. He is very limited and already reached his ceiling.

Ok what is his ceiling as it pretains to his position? not team goals as winning a SB will take a team..show me the facts he has hit his ceiling and it a low ceiling...

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

I hate Dak because of the money issue, I didn't hate Dak in the past. I only started to hate him after that Shiggles game two years ago. That was when I turned on Dak and he has not proved me to be wrong otherwise. He is very limited and already reached his ceiling.

Hating on Dak because of the money issue. Why? What QB do you expect to turn down a big contract, if they are going to be looked at as the franchise QB for whichever particular NFL team plans on signing and keeping them?

 

[Aulac]

Ok what is his ceiling as it pretains to his position? not team goals as winning a SB will take a team..show me the facts he has hit his ceiling and it a low ceiling...

I mean do you give credit to Wilson when the Seahawks won 1 SB and went to 2 straight SB back to back? Wilson was only a game manager at that point, he wasn't the reason they won. Once they paided him, it was over.