Twitter: Wince vs Dak

[adbutcher]

Good question

After Dak's great game yesterday, here are season-to-date Total TDs (rushing/passing) - Total Turnovers (ints/fumbles lost)

Dak
30 TDs
15 Turnovers
= +15 differential

Carson
26 TDs
10 Turnovers
= +16 differential


Passer Rating ...Dak is ahead
Dak 100.5
Carson 96.4


If we compare their league standing with those two stats (differential and PR)

Dak is currently 9th in the league and Wentz is 12th

Not sure why folks still care about this, but there are the stats

Stats and facts are daggers to Dak haters.

 

[RonnieT24]

Dak has more yards, more TDs, more wins, higher passer rating, higher completion percentage.. but in some alternate universe Wentz is playing better this year. Sure..

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

so pick and choose the stats to support your comment. no other stat matters? oookkk then

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Anyone with by far the best running back in the NFL has to go at least 11-4. Otherwise that's a serious disappointment, dude. A team built around an elite running game are usually not 9-6 if you've watched football long enough.

wait, I thought Zeke sucked. and he is not the same...according to many around here....but now he is the best!? by far!!! ok who do we beleive then or is this one of those things that people say to suppor their view and it changes in the next post..

btw, Indy has a better rushing attack than cowboys. by 400 yards.....just sayin'

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Their numbers are a wash. QB rating is essentially the same. Sure, Dak has 300 more passing yards in 2 fewer games. He also has 4 more INTs. Many people would take fewer INTs over more yards.

People also talk about the fact that Wentz has Taylor and Nelson.

Well, Dak has Martin, who is a top 2 OG along with Nelson. Dak also has a two-headed monster in Zeke and Pollard. Dallas was one of the best running teams in the NFL a few weeks ago. Then you throw in the fact that they have far superior receiving options.

Overall, Dak and Wentz have essentially the same stats this season. They also both have a lot of offensive weapons. That doesn’t really prove that Wentz is having a good season. It proves that Dak is having a terrible season if he can’t separate himself from Wentz.

Indy has a better rushing attack than cowboys...hmmmm

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

He, pre-injury, was LIGHT YEARS better than Dak in the red/zone throwing the ball, meaning tight windows. His efficiency in the red zone is always in the top of the league. From 2017-2019, his TD-INT ratio in the red zone was a whopping 60-1.

Dak on the other hand proves himself year in and out as horrible, despite the OL and RG he has had his whole career here to take pressure off his lack of accuracy and forcing extra defenders into the box.

well, facts say Wince has had much better supporting cast than Dak over the years, including better OL. this year he has as good if not better OL, better rushing attack...so what's his excuse now LOL

 

[morat1959]

Stats and facts are daggers to Dak haters.

And the Dak homers hate those playoff wins.

 

[RonnieT24]

And the Dak homers hate those playoff wins.

Wentz's next playoff win will be his first.. You do know that right? In fact the dude has never made it out of the first quarter of a playoff game.. Yes Goff has three playoff wins with the Rams.. those will be the last playoff wins of his career. Dak passes him this year.. or next year at the latest.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

This is what I don’t like about Dak going forward.

He’s almost a pure pocket passer. He’s on the lower end when it comes to the ability to run.

Dak in 2021 has 9 yds, rushing avg per game
Wince 2021 has 7.4....

not much different.

in 2019
Dak 17.3
Wince 15.2 yards

in 2018
Dak 19.1
Wince 8.5 yards

2017
Dak 22.3
Wince 23

so the only year is 2018 where there was a big difference in rushing yards between the two....but other than that, its fairly close....so this Wince is a pure pocket passer stuff is not true

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

You act as if Dak is special while we all watched Cooper Rush, in his first career start, throw for 320 yards and 2 TDs with Dak's weapons.

yes, we all watched Garrett throw for 300+ yards in a game too, on thanks giving...but he was not a good QB. we all have seen back up QBs come in for a game here and there and have a great game, but it doesn't prove what you so desparately want to prove...and if not for an extremley lucky bounce that should have been intercepted, the game was over....but hey I take luck over good any day...right?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Bad Dak>Good Wince

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Wince problem is he play hero balls too much and is stubborn, otherwise he better than both Dak and Goff. He doesn't have the arm talent that Goff has, but as a whole package, he the best out of the three. Meanwhile Dak does nothing better than the other two. Also Dak was only drafted in the 4th round because of the DUI, so who know what round he would have been drafted in otherwise.

yet, his team won a superbowl without him. he got traded and he is having slightly above average season. Dak's best passing season he had 4900+ yards. Wince's best season was 4000...Dak is better than Wince in most statistical categories.....

and Goff played in the superbowl and actually led his team in post season

so how is he exactly better?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I am dead serious. Give Goff this Cowboys team and our record would be better. Wince might be hit and miss because he plays heroes ball too much, but at least he run.

Goff LOL

Detroit is about to draft his replacement and he got dumped and Rams had to pa 2 first rounders to get rid of him

too funny, or do y ou think you know and understand more than McVay? come on tell us you do

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

A broken clock is right twice a day.

so you are right only twice a day?

LOL

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Did he actually win the MVP? again show me FACTS that say Wentz is better at playing QB than Dak.....I'll wait....you have plenty of Data to look at...again I think you already know the Data will not help you so your avoiding it..

"almost" is almost as good as it happening......

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I mean you are seriously going to tell me that you think Dak is better than Wentz? Did you forget how Wentz and no receivers beat Dak two years ago? Like it one thing to be a homer, but let be realistic here.

do you remember Dak beating Wentz multiple times or is that game the only thing that matters and no other games matter? and did Wentz beat Dak or beat the defense? this head to head match up stuff people often use is quite dumb

yes, lets be realistic...

Wentz is a player drafted 2nd over all. and his team dumped him and couldn't wait to get rid of him....yeah. that fact. that reality

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

When you say you want to win, and then hold out for the biggest QB contract, that is disingenious. When your skills and talents doesn't meet the money you want, that is disingenious. Dak is just a selfish person and player. I don't like those type, He is not a team player. He is so full of himself.

how is he selfish. please elaborate?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

We would be better off with a rookie in the long run. That or trade for Rodgers.

how, please elaborate? is Rodgers available for a trade?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

One has a ring one doesn't rofl

so I guess the 6th WR on the superbowl winning team is better than cooper who has no rings? I guess you take that WR over cooper?

 

[atlantacowboy]

Acho is a clown. He left out Jonathan Taylor who is better then Zeke ever was at running the football and a better offensive line. Most importantly though in the two biggest games of the season Wince wet the bed against Tennessee. That cost them the division title.

Nobody has more talent around their Qb than Dallas. Dak has the best WR core in the NFL and PFF's #1 ranked OL. Carson has always been better than Dak, but he could not stay healthy. He's finally healthy and his success is hardly a surprise. Philly made a dumb decision.