Twitter: Wince vs Dak

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Nobody has more talent around their Qb than Dallas. Dak has the best WR core in the NFL and PFF's #1 ranked OL. Carson has always been better than Dak, but he could not stay healthy. He's finally healthy and his success is hardly a surprise. Philly made a dumb decision.

OK, PFF said Diggs is one of the worst CBs in the league....is PFF right? is that the source of truth about NFL or in this case, to support your comments you lean on PFF?

all the stats over their career say Wentz hasn't been better for a 2nd over all pick in the draft...sorry but FACTS don't support your eye test.

and given you mark this year as a success for Wentz, he is 17th in total passing....Wince is 21st in YPA, 14th in YPC, 25th in YPG, 13th in QB rating, and he has the league's second best rushing attack...all in all, everything says he is a very average QB.

Dak has been better in almost every statistical category except for
int%, where wince is 1.3% and Dak is 1.9%.
YPC, wince being 11.2 and Dak is 10.8

so how is Wince better than Dak?

 

[baltcowboy]

Nobody has more talent around their Qb than Dallas. Dak has the best WR core in the NFL and PFF's #1 ranked OL. Carson has always been better than Dak, but he could not stay healthy. He's finally healthy and his success is hardly a surprise. Philly made a dumb decision.

Yeah the Cowboys were more talented the Eagles team that won the Super Bowl with Nick Foles. Dak proved he was the better quarterback the next season when the Eagles returned pretty much their whole team and Dak outplayed Carson twice. Of course the Eagles made the playoffs because Foles came in and saved the day.

Stop overrating the Cowboys talent. The offensive line has not been great since Frederick got sick. Our wideouts are good but not great. Zeke was a product of the Frederick years offensive line. This the first year since 2009 that our defense actually scares someone.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Yeah the Cowboys were more talented the Eagles team that won the Super Bowl with Nick Foles. Dak proved he was the better quarterback the next season when the Eagles returned pretty much their whole team and Dak outplayed Carson twice. Of course the Eagles made the playoffs because Foles came in and saved the day.

Stop overrating the Cowboys talent. The offensive line has not been great since Frederick got sick. Our wideouts are good but not great. Zeke was a product of the Frederick years offensive line. This the first year since 2009 that our defense actually scares someone.

I'm not overating them. You just don't know how they stack up against other OLs which is why I used the PFF stat. Our WR core is wayyyyy better than anything in Indy. We have 3 guys that could start for them. The fact is that Wentz has a better arm and is more accurate than Dak. This is not news. He was having an MVP year as a rookie before his injury and Foles played out of his mind taking a banged up Philly team to the super bowl. Philly lost a lot of talent that offseason and Foles won the job as the reigning super bowl MVP. Thats hardly on Wentz. Proof is in the pudding. Look at him now.

 

[DFWJC]

Again, not sure why anyone STILL cares about this, but it's an open forum and I'm not in the thought police business....so...

Here are the Combined Stats QB rankings following week 16

https://cowboyszone.com/threads/post-week-16-qb-combined-statistical-ranking.490549/

 

[CowboyFrog]

I'm not overating them. You just don't know how they stack up against other OLs which is why I used the PFF stat. Our WR core is wayyyyy better than anything in Indy. We have 3 guys that could start for them. The fact is that Wentz has a better arm and is more accurate than Dak. This is not news. He was having an MVP year as a rookie before his injury and Foles played out of his mind taking a banged up Philly team to the super bowl. Philly lost a lot of talent that offseason and Foles won the job as the reigning super bowl MVP. Thats hardly on Wentz. Proof is in the pudding. Look at him now.

Again saying Wentz is more accurate does not pan out to what the facts show as Dak is actually better in Comp% this year and over career.. but again, if Wentz looks like "What a QB should be" and was drafted like "#1 talent with accurracy" i guess what actually is happening cant change some folks mind. Wentz in his "Look at him now" year is still behind Dak.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Again saying Wentz is more accurate does not pan out to what the facts show as Dak is actually better in Comp% this year and over career.. but again, if Wentz looks like "What a QB should be" and was drafted like "#1 talent with accurracy" i guess what actually is happening cant change some folks mind. Wentz in his "Look at him now" year is still behind Dak.

Dak is not accurate. He throws the balls too high and behind his wrs on a regular basis. He has great wrs. I wasn't quoting a completion % stat b/c thats pretty meaningless. Just look at the ball Wentz throws. He has a better arm. Its obvious. Is Mac Jones the most accurate Qb in NFL history b/c he completes almost 80% of his throws? No. Most of his throws are little underneath throws and to rbs in the flat. He isn't asked to make a lot of tough throws which is what completion % is all about.

 

[CowboyFrog]

Dak is not accurate. He throws the balls too high and behind his wrs on a regular basis. He has great wrs. I wasn't quoting a completion % stat b/c thats pretty meaningless. Just look at the ball Wentz throws. He has a better arm. Its obvious.

No it literally is not every actual recorded fact says Dak is more accurate..I'll start using your eye test when the NFL starts using it to record what happened in games.....again I get Wentz is what you invision aQB to be...everything that has actually happened on the field says Dak has been better.

Ind WR core has less drops than the Cowboys also..so again if your argument henges on a QB with over 500 completions getting great catches at a large click..thats on your mind not what really happened.

 

[atlantacowboy]

No it literally is not every actual recorded fact says Dak is more accurate..I'll start using your eye test when the NFL starts using it to record what happened in games.....again I get Wentz is what you invision aQB to be...everything that has actually happened on the field says Dak has been better.

Thats more about health and opportunity. Wentz would be putting up better numbers in this offense with this talent base around him.

 

[CowboyFrog]

Thats more about health and opportunity. Wentz would be putting up better numbers in this offense with this talent base around him.

No its literally about pass attemp vs comp...its does not take into account games not played...

 

[CowboyFrog]

Thats more about health and opportunity. Wentz would be putting up better numbers in this offense with this talent base around him.

Again you have no facts that support Wentz is more accurate...and thats ok just say "Wentz is what I think a QB should look like" and be doen with it.

 

[atlantacowboy]

No its literally about pass attemp vs comp...its does not take into account games not played...

You cannot take that stat in a vacuum and draw a meaningful comparison.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Again you have no facts that support Wentz is more accurate...and thats ok just say "Wentz is what I think a QB should look like" and be doen with it.

Wentz was sacked 50 times in 2020. You think that might affect his accuracy?

 

[RonnieT24]

Again you have no facts that support Wentz is more accurate...and thats ok just say "Wentz is what I think a QB should look like" and be doen with it.

ABD baby.. ABD!!!

 

[RonnieT24]

Wentz was sacked 50 times in 2020. You think that might affect his accuracy?

How many of those sacks were him holding onto the ball too damn long.. something his own coach mentioned multiple times last year.. Like you said.. can't take stats in a vacuum.

 

[baltcowboy]

I'm not overating them. You just don't know how they stack up against other OLs which is why I used the PFF stat. Our WR core is wayyyyy better than anything in Indy. We have 3 guys that could start for them. The fact is that Wentz has a better arm and is more accurate than Dak. This is not news. He was having an MVP year as a rookie before his injury and Foles played out of his mind taking a banged up Philly team to the super bowl. Philly lost a lot of talent that offseason and Foles won the job as the reigning super bowl MVP. Thats hardly on Wentz. Proof is in the pudding. Look at him now.

Proof in the pudding??? Best running back and offensive line in football, the team is a Wildcard team because he choked in two games against Tennessee. Should have led Philadelphia to the playoffs after Dak was injured but ended up leading the Eagles to the basement. He was benched for Hurts. He could not win division with Dalton, Smith and Jones were the competitions starting quarterbacks. He finished last.

 

[CowboyFrog]

You cannot take that stat in a vacuum and draw a meaningful comparison.

You actually can take that exact stats and make a comparison...its why its there. and with the "other factors" your case gets worse..again his team was good enough to take a backup QB to a SB...he then had a mealtdown after being injured and got benched in favor of Jaylon Hurts, literally cost the coach his job by underperforming...this year his "Bounce back" year is doing better but is still not completing passes at a rate that compares with Dak...so again you literally have nothing backing your claim that Wentz is more Accurate than Dak other than you like the way he looks more.

 

[Risen Star]

Please pray for Wentz.

 

[Risen Star]

The Colts are screwed.

 

[CowboyFrog]

The Colts are screwed.

Lol...I mean surley Sam can turn around and hand the ball off to that running game.

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

Please pray for Wentz.

They play the Raiders who has a bunch of players on the COVID reserve list. They might be able to pull out a win if they lean on Jonathan Taylor and their back up QB doesn't do things to lose them that game.