Why couldn’t/didn’t NY buzz down to correct

[Sydla]

I think MarcusRock is right. The call down from NY can only happen in certain situations. Now, yes, the face mask was weird but technically I don't think they can overrule a fumble that was called down.

 

[Lutonio]

Their ratings are better next week if LA and AZ are locked in a tight race.

 

[MarcusRock]

They literally said that's what happened during the game

They literally did not know and were guessing. If you're saying you've never seen refs correct themselves with multiple announcements then I understand you being confused.

 

[Sydla]

Wrong

Do you have a link to the rule book that backs you on this?

 

[lqmac1]

Wrong

Oh really? I definitely thought that was the rule. Rules change so much it’s hard to keep up.

So they could’ve buzz down and asked the referee to look at that play again even though it wasn’t deemed a turnover?

If so, it wouldn’t surprise me that they didn’t. New York isn’t really known for being fair when it comes to cowboys officiating.

 

[MarcusRock]

I think MarcusRock is right. The call down from NY can only happen in certain situations. Now, yes, the face mask was weird but technically I don't think they can overrule a fumble that was called down.

Inside of 2 minutes they could have but it happened 1 play before.

 

[MarcusRock]

Wrong

Actually he's right.

 

[phildadon86]

They literally did not know and were guessing. If you're saying you've never seen refs correct themselves with multiple announcements then I understand you being confused.

What I'm saying is they could have corrected it today. But didn't. They also missed a delay of game to seal the deal on the same play but of course you think that was the right call as well Troy even said it was a delay of game and he never questions the refs against the Cowboys

 

[MarcusRock]

Oh really? I definitely thought that was the rule. Rules change so much it’s hard to keep up.

So they could’ve buzz down and asked the referee to look at that play again even though it wasn’t deemed a turnover?

If so, it wouldn’t surprise me that they didn’t. New York isn’t really known for being fair when it comes to cowboys officiating.

No, he's the one who's wrong. NY could not buzz down because it was not ruled a fumble. A turnover is one of the things that can be called in from New York without a challenge. Since they ruled no turnover, it could not be reviewed outside of 2 minutes.

 

[JBS]

No, he's the one who's wrong. NY could not buzz down because it was not ruled a fumble. A turnover is one of the things that can be called in from New York without a challenge. Since they ruled no turnover, it could not be reviewed outside of 2 minutes.

you are clueless. Nobody is talking about reviewing the play.

 

[MarcusRock]

What I'm saying is they could have corrected it today. But didn't. They also missed a delay of game to seal the deal on the same play but of course you think that was the right call as well Troy even said it was a delay of game and he never questions the refs against the Cowboys

As I showed you in the Game Thread, delay of game has an extra second built into it. We've benefitted from it as well. Here's the link .... again.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...echanics-have-an-extra-second-or-so-built-in/

 

[JBS]

What I'm saying is they could have corrected it today. But didn't. They also missed a delay of game to seal the deal on the same play but of course you think that was the right call as well Troy even said it was a delay of game and he never questions the refs against the Cowboys

He has absolutely zero idea that this exists in the nfl. Please explain it to him so he understands

 

[MarcusRock]

you are clueless. Nobody is talking about reviewing the play.

This was the guy's question:

"So they could’ve buzz down and asked the referee to look at that play again even though it wasn’t deemed a turnover?"​

So I answered that and what I say is correct. Prove it wrong if not. You won't because you can't. I know the rule.

 

[JBS]

This was the guy's question:

"So they could’ve buzz down and asked the referee to look at that play again even though it wasn’t deemed a turnover?"​

So I answered that and what I say is correct. Prove it wrong if not. You won't because you can't. I know the rule.

Ok man. We aren’t talking about reviewing the play. It’s New York changing the call on the field live. Jesus peezus. Learn what you are watching. It’s called a check.

 

[MarcusRock]

Ok man. We aren’t talking about reviewing the play. It’s New York changing the call on the field live. Jesus peezus. Learn what you are watching. It’s called a check.

And they can only "check" if the play was called a turnover. It wasn't and thus CAN'T be reviewed outside of 2 minutes automatically without a challenge.

 

[JBS]

And they can only "check" if the play was called a turnover. It wasn't and thus CAN'T be reviewed outside of 2 minutes automatically without a challenge.

Dude you are absolutely clueless.

 

[MarcusRock]

Dude you are absolutely clueless.

Clueless and yet schooling you on the rules. Produce what you're claiming from the rulebook and then we'll talk. Until then you're posturing in the face of not knowing what you're talking about.

 

[HungryLion]

We are asking the wrong question.


The question is:


Why can’t the refs make the correct damn call?

and why isn’t there a system in place where there is clear evidence of a potentially game deciding turnover and the refs can’t go ahead and correct the call? Because of a stupid arbitrary rule that plays can’t be challenged or changed unless a team has timeouts.

why can’t the booth challenge a clear play like that? It’s idiotic and freaking stupid.

 

[Aviano90]

This play was outside of 2 minutes. We could have challenged if we had a timeout. We had none because we had to burn them being confused and stuff.

Hey. Those wasted timeouts allowed me to take leaks and reload on beer.

 

[MarcusRock]

We are asking the wrong question.


The question is:


Why can’t the refs make the correct damn call?

and why isn’t there a system in place where there is clear evidence of a potentially game deciding turnover and the refs can’t go ahead and correct the call? Because of a stupid arbitrary rule that plays can’t be challenged or changed unless a team has timeouts.

why can’t the booth challenge a clear play like that? It’s idiotic and freaking stupid.

I agree, they should. But there's a balance between stopping play every 3rd play that's close and allowing for game flow.