Finally got to watch this game and this game was not on Dak

Ken

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Lol so we should take your word over Troy's? And why is that? Fans watch an all 22 and really think they know what they're watching, funny **
Troy is obligated to bash the cowboys...he has been doing it for years.

Meanwhile horrid throws by KM are lauded.
 

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Lol so we should take your word over Troy's? And why is that? Fans watch an all 22 and really think they know what they're watching, funny **

What's funny is that he rips people for being melodramatic with how bad Prescott played (and in fairness, Prescott didn't play poorly or bad), but then he follows that up by saying Dak essentially kept us in the game. Ken tends to often go to the opposite extreme of the Dak haters.

Dak was fine today. He wasn't terrible. He wasn't great. Yes, there were other issues on the O, but you still would like your highly paid (because we were told he was "elite") QB to play great in big, important games.
 

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Ya'll haters are crazy with hate.

This game was not on Dak. If anything, Dak kept us in this game.

I counted 5 batted balls and 2 drops. That is 7 of his 14 incompletes for the game.

There were 2 passes I would deem bad by him. 2.

His fumble in the 2nd to last drive...it sucks, but it happens and was a great play by the defender. I am more happy that he ran the way he did making people miss (more than Zeke did all game) and not afraid of his leg. If that 22 yard run didn't get called back, he had 2 less yards running than Kyler that you all think is the 2nd coming.

THis game was not on him but here is what was the cause of the loss:

  • The total lack of a running game and threat of the run. Just anemic. No one respects Zeke as he is clearly hurt.
  • Horrible penalties. Many advantageous 3rd downs turned into much more difficult 3rd downs.
  • Another crushing missed chip shot fg.
  • Jayron dropping that gimme pick in the end zone.
  • The HORRIBLE non-fumble call on a clear fumble at the end of the game. The defense finally made a play and the refs screw us. We last saw the ball with over 4 min left...never get it back. Clearly this is Dak's Fault.

You guys are all dejected and blaming our QB but I am encouraged. I see us beating them in the playoffs. I really do. I expect our defense to clamp them down even more and I expect our offense to not shoot themselves in the foot like they did today.
Yeah, 5 batted balls are the wr fault
 

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Dak didn't have his best game but when you are down by 3 points and have ~4 minutes left, you'd expect our supposed vaunted defense to make a stop and get the ball back to the offense with some time left.
The Cards were able to run out the clock. That was pathetic.

last 3 weeks I thought they were being named Doomsday II.
 

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I guess...we were missing some key players too. Gallup was out most of the game and Neal didn't play, a key nickel

The one to the left that sailed over Coop's head and there was another in the flat low and behind someone...a horrid attempt.

Other than that, they were either tipped or obvious miscommunications or just broken up.

LOL, tipped or broken up passes can still be bad passes.

For example, Budda Baker dropped a clear pick 6. That was not a great pass. There was also the bad pass to Schultz that Aikman pointed out. Schultz ran like a 5 yard out, was wide open and Dak threw it high and inside him. How was that not a bad pass?
 

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Dak didn't have his best game but when you are down by 3 points and have ~4 minutes left, you'd expect our supposed vaunted defense to make a stop and get the ball back to the offense with some time left.
The Cards were able to run out the clock. That was pathetic.
That was pathetic! We had no clue for Murray on that last drive. We got out coached big time on that last drive.
 

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I have stood up for Dak and will continue to do so, but I also am realistic enough to call him out when he plays poorly.

Today he did. Almost had a pick on his first pass (although to be fair so did Murray). Overthrew Cooper once. Missed him twice on slants. Had a wide open receiver deep on a short pass to Schultz (Troy Aikman called out this one). Didn't protect the ball on a run that led to Arizona's last field goal.

When the team struggles like it did today, Dak presses and tries to do too much. Then he lets one mistake compound into more mistakes. I think this is the crux of the Dak "problem". He needs to go back to playing within himself and not try to win the game on every pass.

I am a big Dak fan. He's a tough competitor with the heart of a lion and has all the leadership qualities and the work ethic you want in your franchise QB. The entire team respects him as the leader and he holds himself accountable.

But today was rough. Not as rough as some games during the "slump" but rough nonetheless. Whatever funk he is in needs to end fast.
 

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Dak didn't have his best game but when you are down by 3 points and have ~4 minutes left, you'd expect our supposed vaunted defense to make a stop and get the ball back to the offense with some time left.
The Cards were able to run out the clock. That was pathetic.
Technically they did make a stop. They got a very bad call...been a long time since we have gotten a call at the end of the game.
 

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Dak can literally take a crap in the middle of the field and you would beg to be the one to scoop it up.
Nope...i just know football and actually look at every aspect of a play, not just listen to imbeciles on forums and announcers with agendas.
 

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Technically they did make a stop. They got a very bad call...been a long time since we have gotten a call at the end of the game.

I mean I guess but they had chances to make stops before that but gave up a ton of big gainers - 15, 7, 11, etc.

They never even forced the Cards into a 3rd down on that last drive, I believe.
 

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Technically they did make a stop. They got a very bad call...been a long time since we have gotten a call at the end of the game.

Last time was the Lions PO with Romo. Just kidding but seems like that, h—- even a home we get screwed.
 

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I have stood up for Dak and will continue to do so, but I also am realistic enough to call him out when he plays poorly.

Today he did. Almost had a pick on his first pass (although to be fair so did Murray). Overthrew Cooper once. Missed him twice on slants. Had a wide open receiver deep on a short pass to Schultz (Troy Aikman called out this one). Didn't protect the ball on a run that led to Arizona's last field goal.

When the team struggles like it did today, Dak presses and tries to do too much. Then he lets one mistake compound into more mistakes. I think this is the crux of the Dak "problem". He needs to go back to playing within himself and not try to win the game on every pass.

I am a big Dak fan. He's a tough competitor with the heart of a lion and has all the leadership qualities and the work ethic you want in your franchise QB. The entire team respects him as the leader and he holds himself accountable.

But today was rough. Not as rough as some games during the "slump" but rough nonetheless. Whatever funk he is in needs to end fast.
His first pass was NOT almost a pick.

Just because a defender lunges at a ball doesn't mean it is almost picked. He didn't even touch it.

Also, the actual almost pick of the smoke screen was not on Dak either...that is on the playcaller. Dak has no choice but to get rid of that ball with a defender on him and that being his only option.
 

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Lol, there you have it folks, get your tin foil hats out, lol at obligated to bash the cowboys. What has Dallas done to deserve praise?

So I want to be totally clear here. On that Schultz pass, where Aikman pointed out it was a bad throw, it wasn't actually a bad throw but instead it was Aikman's Cowboys' bitterness that made him say a good throw was bad throw?
 

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His first pass was NOT almost a pick.

Just because a defender lunges at a ball doesn't mean it is almost picked. He didn't even touch it.

Also, the actual almost pick of the smoke screen was not on Dak either...that is on the playcaller. Dak has no choice but to get rid of that ball with a defender on him and that being his only option.

Those wide receiver screens need to go. I can tell when they are coming and I never looked at an actual playbook in my life.
 

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Oh he didn't lose the game all by himself. But to say he kept us in the game is bizarre and shows your blatant Dak homerism.

What were the 2 bad passes only that you saw?
we're cowboys fans on a message board dedicated exclusively to the cowboys....how the hell does that NOT make us ALL homers?
 

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So I want to be totally clear here. On that Schultz pass, where Aikman pointed out it was a bad throw, it wasn't actually a bad throw but instead it was Aikman's Cowboys' bitterness that made him say a good throw was bad throw?
Lol According to ken, that's how it is
 
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