The 3 reasons we lost that game to the Cards

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Not that simple a set of solutions...

We win with Kyler and if they have Dak.

Dak lost at home with a healthy team to a beat up team on the road because their QB was great and ours was doing what he does in those type of games.


Dak is a good player with a lead. Heck of a front runner when things are optimal.
 

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The Cowboys are as talented as any of the teams in the NFC. The Cardinals are just as talented. They won because of their quarterback made the plays that Dak didn’t.

I'm late to this conversation but I'm going to throw in my two cents:

1. The offensive line -- or lack thereof -- was a key reason that we lost this game. The holding calls were legit and the offensive line couldn't open up holes for Zeke or keep the 5-man front out of Dak's face.
2. The offensive coordinator seemed unable to adjust to the 5-man front, which the Cardinals apparently deploy with regularity. Why weren't we ready for this?
3. Why in God's name didn't we try some running plays to the outside using Pollard? It was so predictable: Let's try to push Zach threw the stacked box. The definition of neurosis is doing the same thing again and again in the face of many failures.

What a disappointment. I'm bracing myself for a one and done play-off appearance. Yet again. And I've been following this team since I was a 9-year-old who witnessed the 1967 Ice Bowl.

Maybe this team needs to go to Yellowstone Ranch to learn how to cowboy.
 

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I'm late to this conversation but I'm going to throw in my two cents:

1. The offensive line -- or lack thereof -- was a key reason that we lost this game. The holding calls were legit and the offensive line couldn't open up holes for Zeke or keep the 5-man front out of Dak's face.
2. The offensive coordinator seemed unable to adjust to the 5-man front, which the Cardinals apparently deploy with regularity. Why weren't we ready for this?
3. Why in God's name didn't we try some running plays to the outside using Pollard? It was so predictable: Let's try to push Zach threw the stacked box. The definition of neurosis is doing the same thing again and again in the face of many failures.

What a disappointment. I'm bracing myself for a one and done play-off appearance. Yet again. And I've been following this team since I was a 9-year-old who witnessed the 1967 Ice Bowl.

Maybe this team needs to go to Yellowstone Ranch to learn how to cowboy.
Vance Joseph has been out coaching our offensive coordinators since 2017. He always stops Zeke and forces Dak to make throws. He did the same thing when he was the head coach of the Broncos in 2017.
 

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I'm late to this conversation but I'm going to throw in my two cents:

1. The offensive line -- or lack thereof -- was a key reason that we lost this game. The holding calls were legit and the offensive line couldn't open up holes for Zeke or keep the 5-man front out of Dak's face.
2. The offensive coordinator seemed unable to adjust to the 5-man front, which the Cardinals apparently deploy with regularity. Why weren't we ready for this?
3. Why in God's name didn't we try some running plays to the outside using Pollard? It was so predictable: Let's try to push Zach threw the stacked box. The definition of neurosis is doing the same thing again and again in the face of many failures.

What a disappointment. I'm bracing myself for a one and done play-off appearance. Yet again. And I've been following this team since I was a 9-year-old who witnessed the 1967 Ice Bowl.

Maybe this team needs to go to Yellowstone Ranch to learn how to cowboy.

Was the La’el Collins holding call legit?

I didn’t see much of a hold. Aikman absolutely loved the call though.
 

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What's funny about these threads is that you never see anything about what the other team did. Um, they're trying to win too you know.
 

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Kyler is a good QB. Dak is a good QB. It seems as if this Oline, for all the media and PFF praise they get, cannot block, sustain blocks, keep counts, disguise holds, or communicate.

The defense was horrible. Quinn watched the Rams and Lions keep Kyler in the pocket, but he crashes both ends continually. Dallas players showed no leadership.

The slow developing plays, by a slow methodical QB, does not work. Zeke and Pollard have not shown up and our receivers have been rendered obsolete.

Philly will play the same defense, with a better front. Their offense has faster, quicker and better offensive weapons than Arizona. We beat them bad earlier, but this game is for momentum going into the playoffs.
 

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We lost because we came out looking flat. Early on it reminded me of the Denver game. It was like the game meant nothing to us. It was very obvious the Cardinals wanted that game more than we did. We couldn’t run the ball at all. Dak reverted right back to where he’s been the second half of the season by missing throws. He didn’t look anything like he did last week. The defense couldn’t make critical stops and they got no takeaways. Put it all together and it’s a recipe for losing.
 

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The 3 reasons we lost that game yesterday- we played poorly in all 3 phases of the game:
  1. Offense didn’t play well enough.
  2. Defense didn’t play well enough.
  3. STs did not play well enough.
Btw, none of the reasons include the refs.
Let us examine why in these three phases of the game we failed:
OFFENSE:
  • Had 3 dropped passes.
  • Dak’s fumble in the 4th qtr.
  • Terrible run blocking by the OL. (Avg less than 3 yds per rush)
  • Poor pre-snap communication forcing hurried snaps to beat the play clock.
  • Was 3-11 on third down conversions
DEFENSE
  • Gave up 399 yards.
  • Allowed 7 third down conversions including two in the critical last 4 min.
  • Had one sack and no TO’s.
  • Allowed 35 min in TOP.
  • Allowed a backup WR to have a career day including 2 TDs.
  • Forced to use a critical timeout in 3rd qtr that killed us in the end.
  • Had 4 min and some change and the end to force a stop and didn’t get it done.
ST’s
  • Greg “Lou” Zuerleine missed a make-able 43 yard FG in first qtr.
  • Gave up a critical fake punt conversion in the first half on Cards 91 yd drive.
NONE OF THESE REASONS INCLUDE THE REFS. Yes we had some bad calls including that missed fumble….welcome to the NFL! If we hadn’t wasted a timeout earlier we could’ve challenged that.

Let’s all be adults here and admit…we got outplayed in all three phases of the game. That is why we lost.
We allowed 2 fourth down conversions too and 2 pass interference on 3rd and 4th down. All on 1 drive for their first TD
 

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Yes. They are playing catch up to what they have invested picks and money into.

Very obvious to everyone where Dallas uses it’s resources. It’s not to you because of a draft?
A draft? I went back to 2017 - that's not just a recent trend. And I can go back further . . .

2016 the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 6th and 7th picks were all defense.
2015 the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th and 6th picks were all defense.

Considering the Cowboys don't spend much on outside free agents, draft picks are the primary resource they build from.
 

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A draft? I went back to 2017 - that's not just a recent trend. And I can go back further . . .

2016 the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 6th and 7th picks were all defense.
2015 the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th and 6th picks were all defense.

Considering the Cowboys don't spend much on outside free agents, draft picks are the primary resource they build from.

Name those players and how we should be depending on them today.

The money is spent on Offense. Stop trying to be a contrarian.
 

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Name those players and how we should be depending on them today.

The money is spent on Offense. Stop trying to be a contrarian.
That's irrelevant to what you claimed. Your claim was the Cowboys weren't using resources on defense, not that they were using resources on defense but they didn't work out. In fact, that's what you said about offense.
 

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That's irrelevant to what you claimed. Your claim was the Cowboys weren't using resources on defense, not that they were using resources on defense but they didn't work out. In fact, that's what you said about offense.


Ok I’m not arguing. Thanks for getting super technical and ignoring how all of our money is spent on offense. You got me. We draft defense sometimes. Congrats.
 

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That's irrelevant to what you claimed. Your claim was the Cowboys weren't using resources on defense, not that they were using resources on defense but they didn't work out. In fact, that's what you said about offense.
Still didn't answer his question trying to maintain that 'high ground.'
 

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The 3 reasons we lost that game yesterday- we played poorly in all 3 phases of the game:
  1. Offense didn’t play well enough.
  2. Defense didn’t play well enough.
  3. STs did not play well enough.
Btw, none of the reasons include the refs.
Let us examine why in these three phases of the game we failed:
OFFENSE:
  • Had 3 dropped passes.
  • Dak’s fumble in the 4th qtr.
  • Terrible run blocking by the OL. (Avg less than 3 yds per rush)
  • Poor pre-snap communication forcing hurried snaps to beat the play clock.
  • Was 3-11 on third down conversions
DEFENSE
  • Gave up 399 yards.
  • Allowed 7 third down conversions including two in the critical last 4 min.
  • Had one sack and no TO’s.
  • Allowed 35 min in TOP.
  • Allowed a backup WR to have a career day including 2 TDs.
  • Forced to use a critical timeout in 3rd qtr that killed us in the end.
  • Had 4 min and some change and the end to force a stop and didn’t get it done.
ST’s
  • Greg “Lou” Zuerleine missed a make-able 43 yard FG in first qtr.
  • Gave up a critical fake punt conversion in the first half on Cards 91 yd drive.
NONE OF THESE REASONS INCLUDE THE REFS. Yes we had some bad calls including that missed fumble….welcome to the NFL! If we hadn’t wasted a timeout earlier we could’ve challenged that.

Let’s all be adults here and admit…we got outplayed in all three phases of the game. That is why we lost.

The Cowboys defeated themselves. Plain and simple. The penalties and dropped passes were everything. Even the fumble late. Missed FG.

So on a side note................you never seem to blame the RB's. Are you saying that running the ball is all about the Oline.
 

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Ok I’m not arguing. Thanks for getting super technical and ignoring how all of our money is spent on offense. You got me. We draft defense sometimes. Congrats.
Okay, we will call it disagreeing then, although taking a contrary position and citing reasons for that position is, by definition, making an argument.
 

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Ok I’m not arguing. Thanks for getting super technical and ignoring how all of our money is spent on offense. You got me. We draft defense sometimes. Congrats.

Money is spent more on offense because most our defensive drafts prior to two years ago were busts. No one to pay.

The last two years Cowboys have focused the draft on defense and its bearing fruit. Most of our young players on defense are still under rookie deals. Trust me, the spending is coming.

Once again your comments are marginal at best. Laughable at worst.
 

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Okay, we will call it disagreeing then, although taking a contrary position and citing reasons for that position is, by definition, making an argument.

He must have missed the last two drafts where are focus was on defense. Heck last year it was virtually all defense.
 

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the cowboys are what they are a team that beats up on teams that are on the bottom of the league and then when they face a good defense their qb is simply not good enough they will make the playoffs and not win a game as per usual
 

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Still didn't answer his question trying to maintain that 'high ground.'
That's a ridiculous comment considering you are willing to ignore that his response to me didn't avoided what I wrote and he quoted. I would have had no problem answering the question if that had been the context of the discussion, but I'm not going to let someone pretend a question negates what I wrote when it doesn't even apply to what I wrote.
 
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