Is McCarthy more valuable than Dan Quinn?

[Blackthorn]

Is McCarthy more valuable than Dan Quinn? Don’t get me wrong, I am thankful for the turn around that Big Mike help orchestrate. However, I am skeptical that MM was the reason for the Cowboys successful year. At the beginning of the season, I thought that K Moore was the reason for the team’s success. I thought that he was a guru, which he is, however teams have perplexed the boy wonder with the stacked box, blitzing 5 and rolling into shell coverage. When McCarthy was hired the team kept K Moore to keep the verbiage, playbook, and offensive scheme the same. I think Moore and McCarthy together have evolved the playbook together and the offense is one of the best units in the NFL. I applaud them.


On the flip side. McCarthy brought in all of his defensive guys and inserted his defensive scheme. It was historically bad, hence the firing of Nolan. A change was obviously necessary to turn this travesty around. Luckily for Dallas, Dan Quinn was released, he righted the sinking ship, and the team is #1 in several categories. Can the team continue the defensive success if Quinn leaves? Would Jerry be better off promoting Big Mike to Will McClay’s assistant and then promoting Dan Quinn to head coach?

I think the team’s future hinges more on Dan Quinn than McCarthy and therefore Quinn should be promoted to Head Coach. The team should hire Vic Fangio or Brian Flores as defensive coordinator.

I propose:

1. Promote Mike McCarthy to assistant vice president of player personnel and quality control.
2. Promote Dan Quinn to head coach.
3. Hire Brian Flores as defensive coordinator.(or Fangio)
4. Promote Joe Whitt Jr to assistant defensive coordinator.
5. the clock is ticking due to interviews, Dallas has to be proactive.

Dan Quinn for head coach.
Your Opinions?

Go Dallas!!!

 

[JoeKing]

I think everyone should just stay where they are until the season is over. We may have a Super Bowl victory to celebrate and then we should keep this group together to go for back-to-back titles.

 

[JustChip]

What happens if we get steam-rolled by the 49ers? Like giving up 250 yards in the ground an 30+ points and we lose? Will Quinn still be held in such esteem?

I don’t, by the way, think that will happen, but that’s why they’ll play the game.

 

[CCBoy]

Is McCarthy more valuable than Dan Quinn? Don’t get me wrong, I am thankful for the turn around that Big Mike help orchestrate. However, I am skeptical that MM was the reason for the Cowboys successful year. At the beginning of the season, I thought that K Moore was the reason for the team’s success. I thought that he was a guru, which he is, however teams have perplexed the boy wonder with the stacked box, blitzing 5 and rolling into shell coverage. When McCarthy was hired the team kept K Moore to keep the verbiage, playbook, and offensive scheme the same. I think Moore and McCarthy together have evolved the playbook together and the offense is one of the best units in the NFL. I applaud them.


On the flip side. McCarthy brought in all of his defensive guys and inserted his defensive scheme. It was historically bad, hence the firing of Nolan. A change was obviously necessary to turn this travesty around. Luckily for Dallas, Dan Quinn was released, he righted the sinking ship, and the team is #1 in several categories. Can the team continue the defensive success if Quinn leaves? Would Jerry be better off promoting Big Mike to Will McClay’s assistant and then promoting Dan Quinn to head coach?

I think the team’s future hinges more on Dan Quinn than McCarthy and therefore Quinn should be promoted to Head Coach. The team should hire Vic Fangio or Brian Flores as defensive coordinator.

I propose:

1. Promote Mike McCarthy to assistant vice president of player personnel and quality control.
2. Promote Dan Quinn to head coach.
3. Hire Brian Flores as defensive coordinator.(or Fangio)
4. Promote Joe Whitt Jr to assistant defensive coordinator.
5. the clock is ticking due to interviews, Dallas has to be proactive.

Dan Quinn for head coach.
Your Opinions?

Go Dallas!!!

Hey, delegating responsibility for success during transition...part of being a good and knowledgeable fan.

The thing is, that view is provided organizationally, at the conclussion of an activity that is under scrutiny...not before. Then it receives more intensive considerations and is then labeled an after - action - report. Other wise. perspective is sacrificed and more of a shallow process unless many similar actions have been trudged through and not mis labeled in the process.

All levels have a roll and fit in with responsibility. When the players go onto the carpet, don't ever doubt that Coordinator interactions, observations, and roles aren't intensely involved or needed. They are.

It is still dependent upon a team focused on missions...match up, match up, match up!!

 

[morasp]

Yes, he is. Being a good coordinator doesn't make you a good head coach.

 

[Gaede]

McCarthy isn't getting near enough credit. This is his team.

 

[DuncanIso]

Yes, he is. Being a good coordinator doesn't make you a good head coach.

DQs HC record isn’t bad.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Smh

 

[CWR]

McCarthy isn't getting near enough credit. This is his team.

I agree, you are probably right. We have never been able to fully grasp the role of a "walk around" head coach. The only evidence of impact is his game management, and most of us believe it leaves something to be desired.

However, if you pay attention you see him in the details. MM championed the idea of having DBs practice on the Jugs machine. I also heard Quinn at one point credit MM for pushing to actively deploying multiple pass rushers. My guess is he was an advocate for Parsons sliding to DE. That's said, I'm not sure what context Quinn meant with the statement. I've heard players say everything he does is about winning. They are refreshed he's not about politics. MM runs an actual meritocracy. I believe he was blatantly honest about Jaylon to the FO, as well as he may have pushed more for TP to get additional touches. LC didn't go directly back to his role after suspension either. All of those examples demonstrate a coach who doesn't care about the status quo.

It's mostly conjecture on my part, but MM is the variable that appears to have forced change.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

McCarthy is a weak link.

 

[nightrain]

The defense wasn't anything special against the Cards.

 

[charron]

No. Last year was proof. Quinn is the bases for this defenses uptick in performance. Quinn had a hand in the draft, free agency, their scheme, his staff who seem to do a better job teaching, pretty much everything that goes into the defense as a whole. MM biggest thing was hiring Quinn and letting the man work.

 

[Gaede]

I agree, you are probably right. We have never been able to fully grasp the role of a "walk around" head coach. The only evidence of impact is his game management, and most of us believe it leaves something to be desired.

However, if you pay attention you see him in the details. MM championed the idea of having DBs practice on the Jugs machine. I also heard Quinn at one point credit MM for pushing to actively deploying multiple pass rushers. My guess is he was an advocate for Parsons sliding to DE. That's said, I'm not sure what context Quinn meant with the statement. I've heard players say everything he does is about winning. They are refreshed he's not about politics. MM runs an actual meritocracy. I believe he was blatantly honest about Jaylon to the FO, as well as he may have pushed more for TP to get additional touches. LC didn't go directly back to his role after suspension either. All of those examples demonstrate a coach who doesn't care about the status quo.

It's mostly conjecture on my part, but MM is the variable that appears to have forced change.

Great post all around .

 

[Jake]

I propose:

1. Promote Mike McCarthy to assistant vice president of player personnel and quality control.
2. Promote Dan Quinn to head coach.
3. Hire Brian Flores as defensive coordinator.(or Fangio)
4. Promote Joe Whitt Jr to assistant defensive coordinator.
5. the clock is ticking due to interviews, Dallas has to be proactive.

Dan Quinn for head coach.
Your Opinions?

Zero chance of that happening.

 

[Ranched]

Absolutely not. One is not more valuable than the other. Many forget Quinn was the DC for both the Gators & Seattle Seahawks & didn't last long at either programs before becoming Atlanta's HC, where he was also released.

If not for MM, neither Quinn, Moore nor Fassel would be on Dallas's coaching staff. That said, MM needs them & they need MM. Without the other, this staff would lack the chemistry.

 

[JBS]

Parsons is more valuable than both of them

 

[Ranching]

Is McCarthy more valuable than Dan Quinn? Don’t get me wrong, I am thankful for the turn around that Big Mike help orchestrate. However, I am skeptical that MM was the reason for the Cowboys successful year. At the beginning of the season, I thought that K Moore was the reason for the team’s success. I thought that he was a guru, which he is, however teams have perplexed the boy wonder with the stacked box, blitzing 5 and rolling into shell coverage. When McCarthy was hired the team kept K Moore to keep the verbiage, playbook, and offensive scheme the same. I think Moore and McCarthy together have evolved the playbook together and the offense is one of the best units in the NFL. I applaud them.


On the flip side. McCarthy brought in all of his defensive guys and inserted his defensive scheme. It was historically bad, hence the firing of Nolan. A change was obviously necessary to turn this travesty around. Luckily for Dallas, Dan Quinn was released, he righted the sinking ship, and the team is #1 in several categories. Can the team continue the defensive success if Quinn leaves? Would Jerry be better off promoting Big Mike to Will McClay’s assistant and then promoting Dan Quinn to head coach?

I think the team’s future hinges more on Dan Quinn than McCarthy and therefore Quinn should be promoted to Head Coach. The team should hire Vic Fangio or Brian Flores as defensive coordinator.

I propose:

1. Promote Mike McCarthy to assistant vice president of player personnel and quality control.
2. Promote Dan Quinn to head coach.
3. Hire Brian Flores as defensive coordinator.(or Fangio)
4. Promote Joe Whitt Jr to assistant defensive coordinator.
5. the clock is ticking due to interviews, Dallas has to be proactive.

Dan Quinn for head coach.
Your Opinions?

Go Dallas!!!

No....

 

[Ranching]

Parsons is more valuable than both of them

And many will turn on him when he gets a big contract....

 

[Floatyworm]

Simple answer....No.

 

[8FOR!3]

McCarthy isn't getting near enough credit. This is his team.

Exactly. That's all that needs to be said. I think Dan Quinn is a good coach as well. McCarthy at the end of the day won the Super Bowl and Quinn didn't. Now am I possibly more impressed with what Quinn did with that Atlanta team before it all fell apart? Sure, but Quinn is an expert coordinator and doing a great job at it. McCarthy runs the show and he is proven to be good at it. I don't want my head coach calling plays for the defense and I think Quinn is more effective at the end of the day doing that than he is being the head coach.