CFZ Truth that fans need to accept

[foofighters]

April 1994 - Present day January 2022. Same story different year.
Jerry Jones is the problem.

and? I've been saying this for a long time now. I just don't use a whole wall of text to say it...

 

[dckid]

and? I've been saying this for a long time now. I just don't use a whole wall of text to say it...

You know I agree, but going back and really analyzing what happens is useful. Read the emo post and enjoy. Your thoughts would be apprecaited.

 

[Shane612]

. There is a mass psychosis that has happened to the Cowboys fanbase over the past quarter century. The late 80's I understand, those were Tom Landry's last days. The Bears, SF, & NFC east were just better. Pelluer, Hogeboom, White, aging team. They needed a hard reset and Jimmy is the one to come in a flip over the table and start from scratch.

Jerry has done a great job of capturing a good part of the fanbase under his Stockholm syndrome. How can anyone call us Americas team? What have we done over the past quarter century to justify that? Romo, Dak, Ware, memorable playoff collapses? We have not even made a championship game since January 1996, when the world was till pushing AOL, Windows 1995 commercials with the rolling stones, OS2 Warp IBM ads.

This is a disgrace of an organization, the only thing different from the Lions or the WFT is really the logo and history. This is a failed organization, most of you will disagree with me. Jerry does not care bout winning another Super Bowl. He has three SB's, he is a HOF'r, he has nothing to prove. He doesn't care about paying, Dak, Zeke, Romo, Cooper, Ware, Tank, Witten, you name the player. There is so much cashflow with the Cowboys he has to spend it. It's like you and I going to get milk at the grocery store. Winning the SB or even building a real contender is like priority 10 when he comes to the office. He just wants to be relevant. Once fans realize this and stop supporting this nonsense is the only way this ends. We need the fanbase to stop showing up at games. It won't hurt his pocket at all, but it will cause embarrassment.

There is almost nothing the fans can do that will make Jerry lose money, maybe not show up for a whole season, but the game theory behind that will never work. He has a flywheel effect for the Cowboys. Fans are desperate for a winner, they keep thinking we are one player, one good draft, one referee missed call away.

Jerry learned from Campo, that he cannot go 5-11, 4-12 type seasons. He always wants to be in the 7-10 win category, which is why he never fired JG. Because 8-8 is good enough to excite ESPN, FS1, play for a playoff spot on Sunday Night.

When will you people wake up? It's not changing until Jerry capitulates and hires a real coach who will come in a change the culture. If that happens within 2-3 years we are in a championship game. The talent is good enough in this organization.

Just imagine if we had McVay or Kyle Shanahan, do we beat the 49ers? It's a simple question that Jerry should be asking. To me it's as plain as the nose on my face.
Don't fool yourself as you are the easiest to fool.

I agree most of this, I think Jerry [desperately] wants to win, if for nothing else, to validate his legitimacy, but Jerry doesn't know how.
I don't think anyone in the house of Jones knows how.

 

[blueblood70]

^ this is why Jerry can keep selling us a **** sandwich.

12 and 5 means nothing if you have another early exit in the playoffs.

We have three playoff wins in the last 26 years. You have fun with that 12 and 5 record.

US who the flip are you? if you are BEING SOLD thats on you that weak makeup of human being. if i don't like something i don't buy it. seems you need therapy because you feel sold ie brainwashed and are seeking therapy here. its conscious choice to follow a sports team. so don't lump me in with you or anyone else. I am fully aware of what being a Dallas Cowboy's fan entails. I dont need reminders of the past i know the history 100% so this place can try hard to keep, bring it up as if we all have forgot. OL

you seem to talk a lot here in Cowboy community for someone not sold..lmao.. hypocrite,

you are the issue not fans like me we fully underhand what it means to follow a team win or lose. regardless of rings etc that what real fans do there's no contract. I dont have expectations to only be fan if they are winning, real fans hope for great things and it sucks to lose but doesn't change the way we cheer and support the team. Thats a true fan , what you describe is a bandwagon fan, attach clauses in there that they have to meet YOUR expectations in order for you to support them,.ef al that noise.

I will enjoy the 12-5 very successful REGULAR season and am upset over the first-round loss.

.your sarcasm and attempt to draw me into your negative toxic personality isnt working.
fans like you who became fans only because of the dynasty's are called bandwagon fans, you all are the issue, not us. you seem to have a clause that you can only cheer for the team of they are winning SBs. nonsense Fairweather fans are what makes this place hard to visit daily. you all are like broken records with the negativity. go elsewhere, please!

 

[dckid]

I agree most of this, think Jerry [desperately] wants to win, if for nothing else, to validate his legitimacy, but Jerry doesn't know how.
I don't think anyone in the house of Jones knows how.

The problem is he has already won 3 SB's so its not like he was Jeffery Lurie, the Benson family, any owner who wants a SB.

 

[foofighters]

You know I agree, but going back and really analyzing what happens is useful. Read the emo post and enjoy. Your thoughts would be apprecaited.

It really comes down to one person. Jimmy Johnson. For all the love they shared back then, after those Championships, I would bet that Jerry started to hate Jimmy. All the of the spotlight was on Jimmy. Jerry couldn't stand that. Jerry needs attention; he craves it. So Jerry is going to die proving that those Championships were a result of Jerry more than Jimmy. I believe it's really that simple. It's his ego.

 

[Shane612]

and? I've been saying this for a long time now. I just don't use a whole wall of text to say it...

Yup.
It's an old argument, that's been around for almost quarter of a century.

 

[MyFairLady]

You guys and your Bill Parcells legends. That guy came in here took a big fat retirement package from jerry and promptly quit on the team. Never won a playoff game had a .500 record. Lets stop pretending that his tenure was any different than any one else since Jimmy cause it wasn't.

 

[dckid]

It really comes down to one person. Jimmy Johnson. For all the love they shared back then, after those Championships, I would bet that Jerry started to hate Jimmy. All the of the spotlight was on Jimmy. Jerry couldn't stand that. Jerry needs attention; he craves it. So Jerry is going to die proving that those Championships were a result of Jerry more than Jimmy. I believe it's really that simple. It's his ego.

That's exactly what it was... Jerry is still waiting on the 500 coaches to take him to a Super Bowl.
That owners meeting in 1994 where Jimmy left out Jerry in a toast is what the sliding door moment that is still killing this organization. Jerry believes he is the reason for the Cowboy success.
The media actually gave Jerry a lot of crap for the first 10 years but they eventually forgot and just realized the Cowboys winning has nothing to do with the NFL success. IF they are relevant that is great. They got Manning and Brady, Pack. The league is too big and powerful for any one organization like the Cowboys to matter. The league just lets Jerry do his thing. No serious football executive thinks the Cowboys are a perennial contender. You would have to be an idiot to believe that.

 

[Shane612]

The problem is he has already won 3 SB's so its not like he was Jeffery Lurie, the Benson family, any owner who wants a SB.

True....
But, many fans, myself included, credits Jimmy Johnson for those three super bowls. Jerry wants to win one for himself. Then he can say "I am a legitimate football man.".

 

[dckid]

You guys and your Bill Parcells legends. That guy came in here took a big fat retirement package from jerry and promptly quit on the team. Never won a playoff game had a .500 record. Lets stop pretending that his tenure was any different than any one else since Jimmy cause it wasn't.

Parcells was a stop gap and was way past his prime. He was way too conservative and never accepted TO.
I mean he is better than our present day clowns, but he was no Jimmy in his prime. Jimmy was a genuine genius, it's just sad the star burned out soo quick.
He really deserved to be here 10 years... That is how long Walsh, Parcells on the Giants, Gibbs on the Skins, Lombardi on the pacers stayed.

 

[dckid]

True....
But, many fans, myself included, credits Jimmy Johnson for those three super bowls. Jerry wants to win one for himself. Then he can say "I am a legitimate football man.".

Everyone knows the truth, including all ex players, triplets included. But they won't say anything to Jerry directly because Jerry treats his ex players really well.
He is a good man, his ego since 1989 has never been brought in check. If he wakes up tomorrow and realizes his mistake we as an organization are on our way.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

. There is a mass psychosis that has happened to the Cowboys fanbase over the past quarter century. The late 80's I understand, those were Tom Landry's last days. The Bears, SF, & NFC east were just better. Pelluer, Hogeboom, White, aging team. They needed a hard reset and Jimmy is the one to come in a flip over the table and start from scratch.

Jerry has done a great job of capturing a good part of the fanbase under his Stockholm syndrome. How can anyone call us Americas team? What have we done over the past quarter century to justify that? Romo, Dak, Ware, memorable playoff collapses? We have not even made a championship game since January 1996, when the world was till pushing AOL, Windows 1995 commercials with the rolling stones, OS2 Warp IBM ads.

This is a disgrace of an organization, the only thing different from the Lions or the WFT is really the logo and history. This is a failed organization, most of you will disagree with me. Jerry does not care bout winning another Super Bowl. He has three SB's, he is a HOF'r, he has nothing to prove. He doesn't care about paying, Dak, Zeke, Romo, Cooper, Ware, Tank, Witten, you name the player. There is so much cashflow with the Cowboys he has to spend it. It's like you and I going to get milk at the grocery store. Winning the SB or even building a real contender is like priority 10 when he comes to the office. He just wants to be relevant. Once fans realize this and stop supporting this nonsense is the only way this ends. We need the fanbase to stop showing up at games. It won't hurt his pocket at all, but it will cause embarrassment.

There is almost nothing the fans can do that will make Jerry lose money, maybe not show up for a whole season, but the game theory behind that will never work. He has a flywheel effect for the Cowboys. Fans are desperate for a winner, they keep thinking we are one player, one good draft, one referee missed call away.

Jerry learned from Campo, that he cannot go 5-11, 4-12 type seasons. He always wants to be in the 7-10 win category, which is why he never fired JG. Because 8-8 is good enough to excite ESPN, FS1, play for a playoff spot on Sunday Night.

When will you people wake up? It's not changing until Jerry capitulates and hires a real coach who will come in a change the culture. If that happens within 2-3 years we are in a championship game. The talent is good enough in this organization.

Just imagine if we had McVay or Kyle Shanahan, do we beat the 49ers? It's a simple question that Jerry should be asking. To me it's as plain as the nose on my face.
Don't fool yourself as you are the easiest to fool.

Oh...he cares about winning...he just cares about winning HIS way. At his age...there is NOTHNG in it for him to change. He would not be satisfied winning it someone else's way. He's already done that. And he did not have any fun. Just listen to him...when Bill Parcells was here...he belly ached about not having any fun. If you listen...he will tell you EXACTLY how he thinks. He said 500 coaches could coach the Dallas Cowboys. He BELIEVES that. Why? Because he truly thinks he is EXCELLENT at what he does..and so all a coach has to do is roll the ball on the field!!

This man has a special kind of sickness. Many of us know it. So what does that say about us?

And if you all think his son will be any different...you have not been paying attention.

 

[blueblood70]

I liked your post out of respect but I disagree with your statement. There is a saying by Mark Twain.
“It's Easier to Fool People Than It Is to Convince Them That They Have Been Fooled.” You sir have fallen hook line and sinker for Jerry's drivel. I am a die hard and always will be. This team was totally unprepared, undisciplined, and fell flat on its face. The Niners did everything that all the talking heads said they would do.
Since when has telling the truth become toxic? What over the past 26 years of puppet coaches, sideshow antics have convinced you that I am wrong?
Shanahan took over in 2017, in 2019 they were playing in the Super Bowl. Jimmy G got hurt in 2018, missed practically the whole season, they had a bunch of injuries last year also This year they had a bunch of injuries, their number 1 RB gets lost for the season. That team is resilient. They are everything that this Cowboy team is not.

excuses for them but not for us, lmao..

right, you watch the games that's all that matters i explained it pretty thoroughly ..Jerry has failed many talented teams here and players themselves just didn't live up to expectations in the biggest games in the biggest moments, call it bad luck or curse, it is not on jerry what happened last Sunday and that the past now.

.thats if. You are overcomplicating what fan is and that on you.

.sorry man but its more than a disagreement. he also has 3 sbs to the old franchises TWO..can you count?

thats far more than most franchises have in 100years of existence.

Im not looking back dont care my fandom is for the Star regardless of owner, coach, or players i will support the team.

I wont be content nor satisfied BUT for sure wont allow fake fans try and ruin my experience further holding their own issues over my head.

IDC OK

IF you are unhappy, divorce the dallas cowboys 100% out of your life. that mean here as well it does carry the team's name and yet you are so unhappy you come in here like 10-15 others and try hard to ruin our experience. that's not a real fan! IDC if you used to love the DCs and now hate Jerry IDC how you FEEL, your weak emotional fortitude won't sway my fandom.

I am a fan no matter what happens, trust me it makes me sick when we lose, im as upset as most but now that its over,

i am hopeful for next season hares nothing else i can do but hope for successful season and if it doesn't happen come March ill be right back looking over FAs, draft, preseason and cross my fingers 2022 will be the year. thats part of being a fan not Fairweather bandwagon fan who apply expectation clauses to being fans.

3 championships whether it was all in 4 years or over 32years its the same to me..one day maybe we get 3 more.. fans do this across sports i mean cubs, Mets and other teams who never win finally get one like the eagles etc.it finally happened. but it happens far less then it doesn't and fans with realistic expectations understand part of being fan is accepting the down years along with the good ones.

 

[dckid]

Oh...he cares about winning...he just cares about winning HIS way. At his age...there is NOTHNG in it for him to change. He would not be satisfied winning it someone else's way. He's already done that. And he did not have any fun. Just listen to him...when Bill Parcells was here...he belly ached about not having any fun. If you listen...he will tell you EXACTLY how he thinks. He said 500 coaches could coach the Dallas Cowboys. He BELIEVES that. Why? Because he truly thinks he is EXCELLENT at what he does..and so all a coach has to do is roll the ball on the field!!

This man has a special kind of sickness. Many of us know it. So what does that say about us?

And if you all think his son will be any different...you have not been paying attention.

I agree 100%. So here we are. The same crossroads for the past quarter century.
Jerry will never win another Super Bowl, so I have seen 3 wins, I guess I will always have youtube to watch good Cowboy football.

 

[TwoDeep3]

There is a great deal of bull manure passed off as truth here in this thread.

The off season disappointment rears its ugly head by vitriol and falsehoods.

 

[dckid]

excuses for them but not for us, lmao..

right, you watch the games that's all that matters i explained it pretty thoroughly ..Jerry has failed many talented teams here and players themselves just didn't live up to expectations in the biggest games in the biggest moments, call it bad luck or curse, it is not on jerry what happened last Sunday and that the past now.

.thats if. You are overcomplicating what fan is and that on you.

.sorry man but its more than a disagreement. he also has 3 sbs to the old franchises TWO..can you count?

thats far more than most franchises have in 100years of existence.

Im not looking back dont care my fandom is for the Star regardless of owner, coach, or players i will support the team.

I wont be content nor satisfied BUT for sure wont allow fake fans try and ruin my experience further holding their own issues over my head.

IDC OK

IF you are unhappy, divorce the dallas cowboys 100% out of your life. that mean here as well it does carry the team's name and yet you are so unhappy you come in here like 10-15 others and try hard to ruin our experience. that's not a real fan! IDC if you used to love the DCs and now hate Jerry IDC how you FEEL, your weak emotional fortitude won't sway my fandom.

I am a fan no matter what happens, trust me it makes me sick when we lose, im as upset as most but now that its over,

i am hopeful for next season hares nothing else i can do but hope for successful season and if it doesn't happen come March ill be right back looking over FAs, draft, preseason and cross my fingers 2022 will be the year. thats part of being a fan not Fairweather bandwagon fan who apply expectation clauses to being fans.

3 championships whether it was all in 4 years or over 32years its the same to me..one day maybe we get 3 more.. fans do this across sports i mean cubs, Mets and other teams who never win finally get one like the eagles etc.it finally happened. but it happens far less then it doesn't and fans with realistic expectations understand part of being fan is accepting the down years along with the good ones.

For someone has had 24K plus posts, this is very incoherent... And I am not one to say as I tend to ramble quite a bit.
The point you seem to be missing is the lack of results over 25 years plus. What don't you understand about that? The acceptance of mediocrity!
Yes life goes on, we are all Cowboys fans through the great and awful seasons. I mean why do we rant on these boards if we were not??

 

[dckid]

There is a great deal of bull manure passed off as truth here in this thread.

The off season disappointment rears its ugly head by vitriol and falsehoods.

Or maybe you have accepted the mediocrity that Jerry has sold over the past 25 years.

 

[dragon_mikal]

1/2 full, why?

because 12-5 and going 6-0 in the division and making it to the payoffs will run fans off LOL

real fans follow their team regardless of t of wins and losses, I don't see half full browns, jets, jags, lions and other stadiums where their teams haven't won in decodes or not ever . eagles took 60 years to win their first SB i dont remember half full stadiums. that not what real fans do , we cheer win or lose. was over 50 years before the chiefs won a SB, their fans stuck around and now are being rewarded.

it was very disappointing to not win a playoff game for sure totally bad feelings but that where it ends. It hurts sure but it doesn't change the way i feel about my team.

im looking forward to next year. each tear is one off and its sports and fans support their teams win or lose. Bandwagon fans expectations are if they are winning, we will show up if not they come to places like these and just be critical.

get over it

you have choice be fan or move on.

What a dumb arse post. The people on this site are here because they’re real fans and trying to imply they aren’t because they are frustrated after 26 years of bull crap is ridiculous.

Climb down from your ivory fan tower and get a grip.

 

[Miller]