Dallas Cowboys or Arlington Jonesboys?

[CTcowboy203]

I don’t blame ownership for everything. The players play the game. Fan base knocks Jerry for everything and he deserves blame and to be killed for his mistakes but it’s just easy to do.

 

[fivetwos]

It may be time to face that the universe is never giving another championship to the walking ego.

Mike McCarthy was hired 24 months ago to take a playoff caliber team to the next level....maybe an NFC title game APPEARANCE.

Meanwhile we have a Rams/Bengals Super Bowl.

Yeah, we improved this year.

 

[Jake]

I’ve lived in Pgh my whole life, as tempting as it is to leave the Cowboys behind, I couldn’t do it. It’s an addiction really, tough to curb it. Frustrating, but No matter how much I despise the way Jerry conducts business, fan for life

I respect your fandom. I don't know how old you are, but if you're may age you took a (bleep)load of abuse after SBs X and XIII, and stuck with the Cowboys. I did too.

But, for me, it's different now. Long gone are Landry and Tex Schramm, replaced by a narcissistic owner and his kids, simply because he owns the team. It's a joke now.

 

[Jake]

I don’t blame ownership for everything. The players play the game.

When ownership puts themselves, and their children, in charge of personnel they own the results. Jerry only did that because he hated seeing the head coach - someone he hired - getting credit for Super Bowls.

Most sane people would be fine with the person YOU HIRED getting credit for your Super Bowls, but (obviously) Jerry's ego couldn't handle it.

He needs the "credit", which is why I created this thread for the silly, old man.

 

[MikeT22]

I'm 52, in the first 26 years of my life the Cowboys went to 14 NFC championship games, 8 Suoer Bowls and won 5 championships.
The second 26 years, 0 NFC championship games, 0 SB's and only 4 playoff wins, all in the wildcard round.

During the last 20 years teams have gone from worst to first in a year or two. Several teams have been 9-7 road wildcard teams and made a run to a Super Bowl championship.. Even this year there wasn't a dominant NFC team, yet Dallas once again went one and done at home in round one.

You would think that in 25 years the stars might align for us just once. But the stars can't even overcome the Jones' stench.

 

[Pantone282C]

I'm born and raised in Ohio, still live here, but I spent summers in Texas with my aunt in the 70s, which is how I came to know the Dallas Cowboys and become a fan of the team.

But as I sit here now, in 2022, this team is barely recognizable. The Cowboys of the 70s were innovators, doing things before others do them, regularly competing for titles and sometimes winning them.

What is this team now? An egofest for the owner and his children. Win, lose, it doesn't matter. The money rolls in and how the team operates does not change. Sure, they wear the same uniforms (thank marketing), but this team has become an internet meme. Do you really think Jerry & Stephen, after 26 years of failure, are going to strike gold? It's become a laughingstock outside of its own fan base.

I noticed how much things changed for me this postseason. Not only did I bet on the 49ers, previously unheard of, I wasn't the least bit surprised that I won that bet. The Cowboys are all hype, lacking substance. Thinking Jerry and Son are going to turn it into substance is a fool's errand - if they could they would've done it by now.

So the question becomes, why bother? Is "loyalty" until death - to an entity that doesn't even know you exist - a source of pride, or foolishness? I can't answer for anyone else, but I decided a decade ago it would be foolish to keep giving my money to this team, so I stopped doing it.

Leadership did not change (I didn't expect it would), and the results haven't changed either. I'll still follow the team out of habit, but thinking this joke of an organization is actually going to win anything...no thanks.

The Arlington Jonesboys will continue to live off the Dallas Cowboys name, but they won't accomplish anything other than making money off diehards who are still in love with the name. The Cowboys have 5 SB trophies, and they'll still have 5 when I die as long as they remain a Jones family business.

Go ahead, talk about this free agent or this coach - it doesn't matter, and deep down you know it. It's all false hope, rooting for a brand we all loved but that exists no more.

The Frisco Jonesboys will continue to live off the Dallas Cowboys name, but they won't accomplish anything other than making money off diehards who are still in love with the name. The Cowboys have 5 SB trophies, and they'll still have 5 when I die as long as they remain a Jones family business.
FIFY!

 

[kwcool619]

I am in the Los Angeles area. The Rams' fans have just stopped with the fireworks for now. It's crazy around here. Fortunately, there is a large Cowboys fanbase here.
I just hate that Jerral and the Jones have squandered 26 years all in the name of building the brand.

 

[Jake]

The Frisco Jonesboys will continue to live off the Dallas Cowboys name, but they won't accomplish anything other than making money off diehards who are still in love with the name. The Cowboys have 5 SB trophies, and they'll still have 5 when I die as long as they remain a Jones family business.
FIFY!

Sadly, you're right. If I said what I really think of Jerry Jones and his ego I'd be benched, so I'll let his piss poor results speak for him.

"jErRy wOn 3 sUpEr bOwLs.". If you're dumb enough to still believe that BS, then you deserve the last quarter century of nonsense.

 

[CTcowboy203]

When ownership puts themselves, and their children, in charge of personnel they own the results. Jerry only did that because he hated seeing the head coach - someone he hired - getting credit for Super Bowls.

Most sane people would be fine with the person YOU HIRED getting credit for your Super Bowls, but (obviously) Jerry's ego couldn't handle it.

He needs the "credit", which is why I created this thread for the silly, old man.

happy for you! Kudos on “creating a thread”

 

[Diehardblues]

I'm born and raised in Ohio, still live here, but I spent summers in Texas with my aunt in the 70s, which is how I came to know the Dallas Cowboys and become a fan of the team.

But as I sit here now, in 2022, this team is barely recognizable. The Cowboys of the 70s were innovators, doing things before others do them, regularly competing for titles and sometimes winning them.

What is this team now? An egofest for the owner and his children. Win, lose, it doesn't matter. The money rolls in and how the team operates does not change. Sure, they wear the same uniforms (thank marketing), but this team has become an internet meme. Do you really think Jerry & Stephen, after 26 years of failure, are going to strike gold? It's become a laughingstock outside of its own fan base.

I noticed how much things changed for me this postseason. Not only did I bet on the 49ers, previously unheard of, I wasn't the least bit surprised that I won that bet. The Cowboys are all hype, lacking substance. Thinking Jerry and Son are going to turn it into substance is a fool's errand - if they could they would've done it by now.

So the question becomes, why bother? Is "loyalty" until death - to an entity that doesn't even know you exist - a source of pride, or foolishness? I can't answer for anyone else, but I decided a decade ago it would be foolish to keep giving my money to this team, so I stopped doing it.

Leadership did not change (I didn't expect it would), and the results haven't changed either. I'll still follow the team out of habit, but thinking this joke of an organization is actually going to win anything...no thanks.

The Arlington Jonesboys will continue to live off the Dallas Cowboys name, but they won't accomplish anything other than making money off diehards who are still in love with the name. The Cowboys have 5 SB trophies, and they'll still have 5 when I die as long as they remain a Jones family business.

Go ahead, talk about this free agent or this coach - it doesn't matter, and deep down you know it. It's all false hope, rooting for a brand we all loved but that exists no more.

They are my local free broadcast every week. And I’m going to be watching football anyway. So the TV’s on.

 

[Jake]

happy for you! Kudos on “creating a thread”

I'm not happy about it. I'm sorry it had to be created. But what should bother you is why it was created, and why it proved true.

I don't own the Cowboys. My offspring aren't running the organization, so I don't own the piss poor results. Who does?

 

[CTcowboy203]

I'm not happy about it. I'm sorry it had to be created. But what should bother you is why it was created, and why it proved true.

I don't own the Cowboys. My offspring aren't running the organization, so I don't own the piss poor results. Who does?

like I said easy easy cop out to blame just Jerry. Easy excuse. He’s very culpable but he’s not the end all be all. Just a convenient excuse for the fan base and a way to cope with all our failures recently.

we also had years and years of success. Before Jerry and after Jerry in the beginning.

 

[Diehardblues]

It’s actually easier rooting for a lousy more dormant franchise. No pressure or nerves. No emotional attachment. No expectations.

It helps when you’re watching multiple games at the same time.

 

[Jake]

like I said easy easy cop out to blame just Jerry. Easy excuse.

Blaming the guy who signs off on contracts - "everything from the jocks to the socks" - isn't a cop out or an easy excuse.

Giving him a pass is an "easy excuse", because it gives you (false) hope. Jerry isn't the problem, it's just someone he hired.

 

[CTcowboy203]

Blaming the guy who signs off on contracts - "everything from the jocks to the socks" - isn't a cop out or an easy excuse.

Giving him a pass is an "easy excuse", because it gives you (false) hope. Jerry isn't the problem, it's just someone he hired.

I don’t give him a pass. He deserves blame. But when players don’t execute or blow assignments - I don’t cry in the mirror screaming at Jerry. Jerry has put together some pretty talented rosters lately. They’ve drafted pretty damn well. He’s also put together some terrible rosters and he’s 100% a self promoter that gets annoying....all fair criticism.

that said, we are owed nothing. It’s really really really hard to win in the nfl- no one cares what we did in 70s or early to mid 90s it’s ancient history and sometimes teams just don’t win. We aren’t football royalty. It’s why when you finally do break through it’s oh so sweet. Some of that winning spoiled us here.

I have no false hope I keep expectations even keel and hope for the best and have been let down a bunch but not everything is Jerry’s fault.

This team he built has talent on it. Will McClay has tremendous say and input into everything here. Will has done a great job and he’s a Jerry hire. We will see if mm can maximize this teams talent next season- see if we can build off 12 wins even with a disappointing ending although I am skeptical but it’s TBD.

Blaming Jerry is low hanging fruit and easy to do. I’ve done it a bunch and will again but it’s on the players too. They have talent but that talent needs to execute in the biggest moments and that’s not always on coaching. Some players have the talent but can’t come through in the biggest moments- regardless of who the coach is or who hires them.

 

[JoeKing]

I'm born and raised in Ohio, still live here, but I spent summers in Texas with my aunt in the 70s, which is how I came to know the Dallas Cowboys and become a fan of the team.

But as I sit here now, in 2022, this team is barely recognizable. The Cowboys of the 70s were innovators, doing things before others do them, regularly competing for titles and sometimes winning them.

What is this team now? An egofest for the owner and his children. Win, lose, it doesn't matter. The money rolls in and how the team operates does not change. Sure, they wear the same uniforms (thank marketing), but this team has become an internet meme. Do you really think Jerry & Stephen, after 26 years of failure, are going to strike gold? It's become a laughingstock outside of its own fan base.

I noticed how much things changed for me this postseason. Not only did I bet on the 49ers, previously unheard of, I wasn't the least bit surprised that I won that bet. The Cowboys are all hype, lacking substance. Thinking Jerry and Son are going to turn it into substance is a fool's errand - if they could they would've done it by now.

So the question becomes, why bother? Is "loyalty" until death - to an entity that doesn't even know you exist - a source of pride, or foolishness? I can't answer for anyone else, but I decided a decade ago it would be foolish to keep giving my money to this team, so I stopped doing it.

Leadership did not change (I didn't expect it would), and the results haven't changed either. I'll still follow the team out of habit, but thinking this joke of an organization is actually going to win anything...no thanks.

The Arlington Jonesboys will continue to live off the Dallas Cowboys name, but they won't accomplish anything other than making money off diehards who are still in love with the name. The Cowboys have 5 SB trophies, and they'll still have 5 when I die as long as they remain a Jones family business.

Go ahead, talk about this free agent or this coach - it doesn't matter, and deep down you know it. It's all false hope, rooting for a brand we all loved but that exists no more.

It depends on how you define success. I'm invested in the business side of the Cowboys. Business is great. The TV networks know how marketable is the Cowboys brand. Year after year the Cowboys are maxed out on prime-time games. So if the objective is to make a profit, what are you complaining about? If you're only interested in football, then yeah I can see your dissatisfaction. In that case, find another team if that's your point. Stop whining and go away. The Jones family is not going to change how they operate this company. It's a business to them first and foremost so you have to understand this.

 

[john van brocklin]

I'm born and raised in Ohio, still live here, but I spent summers in Texas with my aunt in the 70s, which is how I came to know the Dallas Cowboys and become a fan of the team.

But as I sit here now, in 2022, this team is barely recognizable. The Cowboys of the 70s were innovators, doing things before others do them, regularly competing for titles and sometimes winning them.

What is this team now? An egofest for the owner and his children. Win, lose, it doesn't matter. The money rolls in and how the team operates does not change. Sure, they wear the same uniforms (thank marketing), but this team has become an internet meme. Do you really think Jerry & Stephen, after 26 years of failure, are going to strike gold? It's become a laughingstock outside of its own fan base.

I noticed how much things changed for me this postseason. Not only did I bet on the 49ers, previously unheard of, I wasn't the least bit surprised that I won that bet. The Cowboys are all hype, lacking substance. Thinking Jerry and Son are going to turn it into substance is a fool's errand - if they could they would've done it by now.

So the question becomes, why bother? Is "loyalty" until death - to an entity that doesn't even know you exist - a source of pride, or foolishness? I can't answer for anyone else, but I decided a decade ago it would be foolish to keep giving my money to this team, so I stopped doing it.

Leadership did not change (I didn't expect it would), and the results haven't changed either. I'll still follow the team out of habit, but thinking this joke of an organization is actually going to win anything...no thanks.

The Arlington Jonesboys will continue to live off the Dallas Cowboys name, but they won't accomplish anything other than making money off diehards who are still in love with the name. The Cowboys have 5 SB trophies, and they'll still have 5 when I die as long as they remain a Jones family business.

Go ahead, talk about this free agent or this coach - it doesn't matter, and deep down you know it. It's all false hope, rooting for a brand we all loved but that exists no more.

It will be interesting to see what happens once us die hards move on.
These young fans have no reason to be so committed and loyal like us.
Of course Jerry will have passed by then too.

 

[zeke21]

I don't blame Jerry and his son for everything. Do I think they are part of the problem.. yep but its not always their fault. The problem is that they are actually too loyal and they care too much in some respects. That is why we get stuck with clapper and Dak etc etc.. they over invest in creating a 'family' and just can't see the obvious.

 

[DandyDon52]

I appreciate your thoughts, but trust me, I'm not in depression over the Cowboys. It's just sad to see something you once loved become almost unrecognizable.

That's what Jerry Jones has done to this franchise. Part of me has come to relish his frustration. His ego drove this operational model, so let him burn in it.

thats why I like to see cowboys get in playoffs, then get beat, it bums jerry out!

I wonder why the 90.000 fans keep showing up at the stadium, thats where he makes his money. If it was only half full for each of the games
next season, it might drive him to do things differently. But that wont happen, people go just as they would any other event.
And I guess there is 90000 ready to go for each home game, not the same ones though.

I think most fans are casual fans, watch or go to game talk it up a little and that is it.

 

[DandyDon52]

It will be interesting to see what happens once us die hards move on.
These young fans have no reason to be so committed and loyal like us.
Of course Jerry will have passed by then too.

nothing , we are a small group when compared to the casual fans.