News: PFT: Cowboys should lift NDAs, allowing cheerleaders to tell their stories regarding voyeurism

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Of course not . But I’m not the one who was caught. I’m not trying to convict simply asking for a public opinion.

What do you think. Was this his first peep or perving in his life or just first time caught?
I don't know and he certainly sounds like a creep to me. But to accept he has "the goods" on Jerry Jones is a stretch. And to insinuate Jones would have kept him employed after discovering he was photographing his daughter just to help with the HOF process is based on no facts whatsoever.

All I'm saying is this isn't football talk. And hearing folks I respect say incredible things about the team owners is disappointing. This said, I'll take my own advice and not read anymore of this thread. Go Cowboys
 

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I don't know and he certainly sounds like a creep to me. But to accept he has "the goods" on Jerry Jones is a stretch. And to insinuate Jones would have kept him employed after discovering he was photographing his daughter just to help with the HOF process is based on no facts whatsoever.
Im not arguing that point. Not yet anyway. But usually where there’s fire , there’s smoke . It is at least suspect why this was kept under wraps so long.
 

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You’re taking this too literally . I’m not a court of law . Just public perception using practicality and a police type of profiling which in investigative mode must be used.

Like I asked initially , what do you believe . You think this is first time in his life he’s peeped or perved or just first time he’s been caught?

This statement in and of itself is damning. What has he been "caught" at? He has been ACCUSED of this.. Legally he has not been CAUGHT at anything. Big companies pay off lawsuits all the time even when they know the accusations to be flimsy just to avoid the shitstorm a trip to court over it would result in. They weight the amount of the settlement against the potential loss of revenue resulting from the hit in public perception and conclude that it's cheaper to pay the accuser off. In no way am I saying it's right.. it just .. IS.
 

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This statement in and of itself is damning. What has he been "caught" at? He has been ACCUSED of this.. Legally he has not been CAUGHT at anything. Big companies pay off lawsuits all the time even when they know the accusations to be flimsy just to avoid the shitstorm a trip to court over it would result in. They weight the amount of the settlement against the potential loss of revenue resulting from the hit in public perception and conclude that it's cheaper to pay the accuser off. In no way am I saying it's right.. it just .. IS.
Now you’re coming across very defensive and sensitive like he’s your family or something . Lol

I asked you if you believe this is the first time he's ever peeped or perved before ?
 

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What do we know about Rich Dalrymple? Not much. We do not know his history and if there is anything else like what he is accused of at this time.

I looked him up and he's married with 4 children so I can only imagine the effect this is having on them. Can't get much worse than for something like this to have happened with the Cowboys. He is a native of Dallas so he knows a lot of people and right now, I would imagine some are wondering if they really know him.

Here's my take on this and I agree is it speculative. He's with the team and pretty close to the family for 32 years and their lack of response when he suddenly announces his retirement speaks for itself. Wilkinson, the crisis management person in charge of the internal investigation, tells the ESPN reporter that he looked at the video of the cheerleaders' dressing room and if that shows Dalrymple going in and immediately coming back out, that supports his story that it was a mistake and when he realized it, he removed himself. Do they take that video and show it to the cheerleaders' lawyers to refute their story or let the ESPN reporter see it to prove Dalrymple is telling the truth? No, they do not. Instead, they settle for 2.4M and Wilkinson said his investigation uncovered no wrong doing.

The one thing I cannot get past in this is the lack of response from the entire organization when the man most responsible for Booger getting into the HOF and part of the extended family. And not one person here that is leaning against his guilt can justify that.

He did something to be treated this way. Maybe he did both things and even more they know about. And maybe he's been in therapy for that?

A lot of the disbelief of the war room incident is based on how we think Booger should have reacted or Wilkinson's statement that he would have fired Dalrymple had that actually happened. Some have even mentioned Booger's penchant for family would have dictated that but let's explore the other side of that, the daughter's side.

It is known now that Dalrymple's job 1 was the HOF push for Booger and I do not think his daughter wanted anything more. But Dalrymple screws up and the very guy they have been depending on to get him to the HOF could unravel everything. This hits the media, do you think Booger is getting one vote for the HOF? They all want this story to go away, which is why the NFL is staying out of it, they want this to die quickly.

When Booger finds out what Dalrymple has done, he is furious like any father would be but the truly harmed party, the daughter, wants her father in the HOF and doesn't want to be in the news like this and who can blame her? So, she becomes the levelling agent to the entire ordeal and if she can look past it for the greater good, how can the rest of the family, including her father, not do the same?

Dalrymple is out, it's just a matter of time, as extended family and for all we know, Booger could have taken part of his wages for that 2.4M. But the agreement is made, if this story ever sees the light of day, he falls on his sword and is out and keeps his mouth shut. Which has happened so far.

Can you imagine the backlash towards Booger from fathers and towards Charlotte from women for letting him get by with this? Now, I do not think Booger let him get by with this for the HOF, he did that for his daughter.
 

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What do we know about Rich Dalrymple? Not much. We do not know his history and if there is anything else like what he is accused of at this time.

I looked him up and he's married with 4 children so I can only imagine the effect this is having on them. Can't get much worse than for something like this to have happened with the Cowboys. He is a native of Dallas so he knows a lot of people and right now, I would imagine some are wondering if they really know him.

Here's my take on this and I agree is it speculative. He's with the team and pretty close to the family for 32 years and their lack of response when he suddenly announces his retirement speaks for itself. Wilkinson, the crisis management person in charge of the internal investigation, tells the ESPN reporter that he looked at the video of the cheerleaders' dressing room and if that shows Dalrymple going in and immediately coming back out, that supports his story that it was a mistake and when he realized it, he removed himself. Do they take that video and show it to the cheerleaders' lawyers to refute their story or let the ESPN reporter see it to prove Dalrymple is telling the truth? No, they do not. Instead, they settle for 2.4M and Wilkinson said his investigation uncovered no wrong doing.

The one thing I cannot get past in this is the lack of response from the entire organization when the man most responsible for Booger getting into the HOF and part of the extended family. And not one person here that is leaning against his guilt can justify that.

He did something to be treated this way. Maybe he did both things and even more they know about. And maybe he's been in therapy for that?

A lot of the disbelief of the war room incident is based on how we think Booger should have reacted or Wilkinson's statement that he would have fired Dalrymple had that actually happened. Some have even mentioned Booger's penchant for family would have dictated that but let's explore the other side of that, the daughter's side.

It is known now that Dalrymple's job 1 was the HOF push for Booger and I do not think his daughter wanted anything more. But Dalrymple screws up and the very guy they have been depending on to get him to the HOF could unravel everything. This hits the media, do you think Booger is getting one vote for the HOF? They all want this story to go away, which is why the NFL is staying out of it, they want this to die quickly.

When Booger finds out what Dalrymple has done, he is furious like any father would be but the truly harmed party, the daughter, wants her father in the HOF and doesn't want to be in the news like this and who can blame her? So, she becomes the levelling agent to the entire ordeal and if she can look past it for the greater good, how can the rest of the family, including her father, not do the same?

Dalrymple is out, it's just a matter of time, as extended family and for all we know, Booger could have taken part of his wages for that 2.4M. But the agreement is made, if this story ever sees the light of day, he falls on his sword and is out and keeps his mouth shut. Which has happened so far.

Can you imagine the backlash towards Booger from fathers and towards Charlotte from women for letting him get by with this? Now, I do not think Booger let him get by with this for the HOF, he did that for his daughter.
It’s difficult to say why it’s been covered up . I’m not sure I’d connect it into his HOF induction which was almost 5 years ago. Or if it was to purely protect Char.

Most likely this has been kept under wraps waiting to see it’s conclusion. And to protect the Cowboys image.
 

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It’s difficult to say why it’s been covered up . I’m not sure I’d connect it into his HOF induction which was almost 5 years ago. Or if it was to purely protect Char.

Most likely this has been kept under wraps waiting to see it’s conclusion. And to protect the Cowboys image.
This all took place in 2015 and it was pretty much public knowledge Dalrymple was the point guy on that.

Cowboys image? What is that? We don't punish execs for perverted behavior, we pay off the victims.
 

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This all took place in 2015 and it was pretty much public knowledge Dalrymple was the point guy on that.

Cowboys image? What is that? We don't punish execs for perverted behavior, we pay off the victims.
Understood but once Jethro was inducted why keep him all of these years knowing this was under investigation unless you thought it might go away or swept under the rug?

But sure, there’s still public image to uphold regardless if there’s any punishment . Once the settlement was made , time to cut ties.
 

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Now you’re coming across very defensive and sensitive like he’s your family or something . Lol

I asked you if you believe this is the first time he's ever peeped or perved before ?

Any feelings you are perceiving are coming from you not me. I don't care one way or the other about Rich Dalrymple. I am championing what is right and just. Nothing more nothing less. I don't like condemning people without proof .. It doesn't matter if I believe it was his first time or his 50th. The statement that he has been "caught" is simply inaccurate. Again this is all based on allegations.. Nobody is "caught" at anything. People are filling in the blanks with what they want to believe. I don't believe anything.. I don't know him and have not seen enough of him in interviews and other settings to have a feel for whether he's capable of such a thing.
 

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Any feelings you are perceiving are coming from you not me. I don't care one way or the other about Rich Dalrymple. I am championing what is right and just. Nothing more nothing less. I don't like condemning people without proof .. It doesn't matter if I believe it was his first time or his 50th. The statement that he has been "caught" is simply inaccurate. Again this is all based on allegations.. Nobody is "caught" at anything. People are filling in the blanks with what they want to believe. I don't believe anything.. I don't know him and have not seen enough of him in interviews and other settings to have a feel for whether he's capable of such a thing.
We condemn people all the time without proof . Lol

How can you not believe anything? Sound like you’re just playing devils advocate now:)
 
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Where? When you were explaining women are money grubbing liars, lol?

Find one post where I called women , money grubbing,or liars. Bet you can't. You brought that into the conversation, when talking about this story it's he said she said...that's fact.
 

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No you’re supposed to have an independent, objective investigation done by professional people other than the Cowboys “internal investigation”. They needed to have impartial fact finding regardless of who is implicated. Independent investigations are critical for credibility.

So a internal investigator can't be professional or impartial..lol
 

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He admitted to being in the cheerleaders lockerroom and that he used his id card to gain access to the back enterance, which was locked. When asked what the hell he was doing in the cheerleaders lockerrom while they were changing, he said it was to use the restroom.

Problem with that story is that the men's restroom is approximately 20 feet from the rear entrances to the cheerleader's room.

So, instead of using the men's restroom in the hallway 20 feet away, he decided to pull out his id card and enter a locked door to the cheerleader's dressing room to use their bathroom? And here is the kicker, he admitted he never used the restroom in the cheerleader's lockerroom and surveillance footage from the hallway shows he entered and remained inside the lockerroom for some period of time.

So, lets recap what we know. Dude decided to enter cheerleader's changing room to use the bathroom, despite their being a men's bathroom just 20 feet way in the outside hallway, then when dude enter cheerleader's room he apparently decides he doesnt need to go to the bathroom after all but instead of just leaving he decides to hang around while four cheerleaders change cloths and doesnt leave until one of the cheerleaders see him.

The amount of mental gymnastics it takes to accept this as a plausible excuse is off the charts. Dude was perving.


You van make all the assumptions you want, you have no idea what he was doing no more than me or anyone else, wanting to use a bathroom you think is private and empty is plausible, your point about not using the restroom , he left after realizing they were in there, there's plausible reasons, you have to take that into account, just like you want to make assumptions from what you read.
 

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So a internal investigator can't be professional or impartial..lol
They could be but remember they are on the payroll of the company that’s being investigated . Why wouldn't we prefer an investigator without any direct ties ?
 

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They could be but remember they are on the payroll of the company that’s being investigated . Why wouldn't we prefer an investigator without any direct ties ?

They could've went outside, but they didn't, that shouldn't mean the investigator credibility should be assassinated, because that's what's happen here.
 

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Is it just me or shouldn't this thread be somewhere else other than where we're trying to talk football

Why do we need a thread about cheerleaders being viewed in an impure manner here in the fan zone.
 

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Understood but once Jethro was inducted why keep him all of these years knowing this was under investigation unless you thought it might go away or swept under the rug?

But sure, there’s still public image to uphold regardless if there’s any punishment . Once the settlement was made , time to cut ties.

So you simply believe the allegations are true even though you have no evidence proving it true. I could assume it's because you want something else to feed your Jerry hate.
 

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Aint no "We" on this one. I don't.. and won't.

A lot of this seems to stem from Jerry hate. It's folks saying how could Jerry keep this guy around, even though there's no proof allegations are true, or true in the way its alleged
 
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