Clarence Hill: Look for the Cowboys to draft a WR in the 1st or 2nd round

[Cowboyny]

Where do you think those rumors originate?

Booger said unless a Lamb or Parsons falls, they taking an OL. Biggest surprise of this draft would be for them to take an OL with the 1st pick.

I think unless one of the Edge or Tackles fall, it is going to be either a interior lineman or WR. Jerry is more honest then you think.

 

[CouchCoach]

When the Cowboys let Cooper walk Lamb became the #1. And they just paid Gallup 10+ mil to be the 2.

The harm is Lamb is your 1, and there is not a prospect as good as him in the draft, so if you use 24 on WR your pumping millions and a high draft pick into someone who might be 4th ish on the list of targets depending on who you factor Schultz in.

We will just disagree on Lamb being better than several of the prospects in this draft.

He was touted as a 1st rounder because of having a Heisman QB and his YAC in the Big 12. Have you seen that RAC beast in the NFL?

 

[cnuball21]

Depends on who is there but I agree, could be a run once the first one comes off the board and some feel Williams is the next Justin Jefferson so he might go 1st over London.

If Burks is off before 24, I think that changes things but if you watched him as I did all season long, and the Jones did that in person and know the coaching staff well, he is the best WR, after London, for Prescott because he's that YAC WR that Lamb was at OU but hasn't delivered in the NFL. That was what put him into the 1st round. His YAC was ridiculous in college.

As far as Gallup is concerned, the son is already saying out 2-3 games and they always peddle the injuries lightly so that's nor 5-6.

Are the Cowboys, and particularly this QB, able to wait on what might be their best WR to come back and how long will it take him to get to 100%, if he can do that this year? Not all of them can.

The key is who falls to 24? Is that a highly ranked interior OL or a WR?

I like Williams but not drafting someone in the 1st coming off of that kind of injury. Also not a fan of lightweight deep threats as they’ve traditionally had trouble staying healthy in the NFL.

Burks is a project. I’m not sure he knows what a route is based off how they used him at Ark. Hard, hard pass at 24.

This class is loaded at WR. You can get your #3 in the 2nd or 3rd that can make a year 1 impact.

 

[Cowboyny]

When the Cowboys let Cooper walk Lamb became the #1. And they just paid Gallup 10+ mil to be the 2.

The harm is Lamb is your 1, and there is not a prospect as good as him in the draft, so if you use 24 on WR your pumping millions and a high draft pick into someone who might be 4th ish on the list of targets depending on who you factor Schultz in.

I have earmarked a day 2 receiver for weeks. I believe this team feels that the #3 WR is viewed like another starter. Either teams play two TE's or more 3 WR packages.

 

[Cowboyny]

If you want a WR, I honestly think the best value you can get could be Metchie deep in the 3rd

I like him, but he is also coming off the same injury as Gallup.

 

[cnuball21]

We will just disagree on Lamb being better than several of the prospects in this draft.

He was touted as a 1st rounder because of having a Heisman QB and his YAC in the Big 12. Have you seen that RAC beast in the NFL?

He’s the 2nd Cowboys ever to have 2K+ yards in their 1st 2 seasons and the other (Hayes) was a HOFr. He’s also still developing so I’m lost on what we’re missing here?

He was touted for being a complete package as a prospect. Size/speed combo, good hands, elite catch radius and developing route running. Yes, the YAC has dropped off some bc it’s not the Big 12.

 

[Plankton]

You gotta love the Cowboys and the Jones.

They didn't want to give DeMarco Murray a ton of guaranteed money or a lot of years because their "research" and data showed teams don't get back the investment put into the position given the drop off at the position due to injuries/wear and tear and usage. A year later they use the 4th pick in the draft on a TB and then a few years later hand him the largest contract for a RB in NFL history (and no one has really come close to beating).

A few years ago after they cut Bryant, Stephen claimed that they believed a WR rotation of decent players could be very effective as opposed to jpouring a lot of resources into one dominant type WR. 6 months after that gem, they traded a first round pick for Cooper. And if they take a WR in the first round this year, that would be three first round picks on WRs in four years, as I noted above.

They don't have any clear plan. They just shoot from the hip.

 

[Stash]

Zeke actually was worth is draft status on his rookie deal, was an elite player, but not so much after his extension, which was a huge mistake.

Sorry but I don’t think he - or more specifically the overall investment - have EVER been worth it.

Demarco Murray had better numbers before Elliott was drafted and Derrick Henry has shown after that he was the better draft investment.

 

[CouchCoach]

I think unless one of the Edge or Tackles fall, it is going to be either a interior lineman or WR. Jerry is more honest then you think.

If he is honest at all, he is more honest than I think. And none of these GM's are honest about the draft, it's a game to them.

Which is funny because they're all lying, why would they believe anybody and do most of them care anyway. They're not going to take a player just to keep another team from having him.

The irony is PHL. They got word that Parcells was going to take Shawn Andrews with their first and traded up one spot ahead of them and took him. Backfired, he busted out over injuries. But then we allow PHL to do that to NYG and are lucky they weren't vindictive and took Parsons because they knew he was the 3rd on the D list and they had to go D. I wonder how many Giants fans are sorry about them not taking the one guy compared to LT and letting Dallas take him? That's worth firing a GM over.

 

[cnuball21]

I have earmarked a day 2 receiver for weeks. I believe this team feels that the #3 WR is viewed like another starter. Either teams play two TE's or more 3 WR packages.

Its a rock solid list…

Dotson
Moore
Metchie
Watson
Pickens
Austin
Tolbert
Pierce
Shakir

Some of these dudes could even be had in the 3rd.

 

[morasp]

He’s the 2nd Cowboys ever to have 2K+ yards in their 1st 2 seasons and the other (Hayes) was a HOFr. He’s also still developing so I’m lost on what we’re missing here?

He was touted for being a complete package as a prospect. Size/speed combo, good hands, elite catch radius and developing route running. Yes, the YAC has dropped off some bc it’s not the Big 12.

Not only would Lamb be the top WR in this draft he would be a top 5 player overall.

 

[Cowboyny]

Its a rock solid list…

Dotson
Moore
Metchie
Watson
Pickens
Austin
Tolbert
Pierce
Shakir

Some of these dudes could even be had in the 3rd.

Yes, there should be quality through the 1st 3 rounders after a drop-off.

 

[cnuball21]

Lamb not only would be the top WR in this draft he would be a top 5 player overall.

He was clear cut WR 1 for me that year and for some of the media scouts out there if I remember correctly. Not sure I’d call him a blue chip WR prospect but dude was a legit, top 10/15 talent.

I think he’d be a top 10 lock this year and maybe higher.

 

[CouchCoach]

I like Williams but not drafting someone in the 1st coming off of that kind of injury. Also not a fan of lightweight deep threats as they’ve traditionally had trouble staying healthy in the NFL.

Burks is a project. I’m not sure he knows what a route is based off how they used him at Ark. Hard, hard pass at 24.

This class is loaded at WR. You can get your #3 in the 2nd or 3rd that can make a year 1 impact.

That is all based on Lamb being a #1 and I am not in that camp at this point.

However, I agree that Burks is a NFL project but he does have the innate ability to break tackles and he can be the Cowboys Deebo player.

I think the other thing that gets him points with the Joneses and their alma mater is that he is full on warrior and they couldn't keep him on the sideline. His own HC said he had no problem with him opting out of the bowl game because he played hurt so many times during the regular season.

 

[Cowboyny]

Sorry but I don’t think he - or more specifically the overall investment - have EVER been worth it.

Demarco Murray had better numbers before Elliott was drafted and Derrick Henry has shown after that he was the better draft investment.

Murray was out of the league, 2 years later.

 

[cowboyec]

all depends on how that board looks.

 

[morasp]

He was clear cut WR 1 for me that year and for some of the media scouts out there if I remember correctly. Not sure I’d call him a blue chip WR prospect but dude was a legit, top 10/15 talent.

I think he’d be a top 10 lock this year and maybe higher.

His draft grade was 6.81 by lance z. Even if people prefer a different analyst you can assume that he uses the same criteria each year so the grades are useful for a comparative basis. This year his top two WRs are Burks and Wilson with grades of 6.5.

CeeDee Lamb Draft and Combine Prospect Profile | NFL.com

Out of curiosity I looked up the Bengals WRs and they were Chase 7.12, Boyd 6.4, and Higgins 6.37.

 

[Stash]

Murray was out of the league, 2 years later.

And…?

 

[Cowboyny]

And…?

It was smart not to extend him.

 

[cnuball21]

That is all based on Lamb being a #1 and I am not in that camp at this point.

However, I agree that Burks is a NFL project but he does have the innate ability to break tackles and he can be the Cowboys Deebo player.

I think the other thing that gets him points with the Joneses and their alma mater is that he is full on warrior and they couldn't keep him on the sideline. His own HC said he had no problem with him opting out of the bowl game because he played hurt so many times during the regular season.

Lamb hasn’t been the 1 bc he hasn’t had the chance to…the Cowboys had 20 mil locked up in Cooper. He’s shown me plenty to believe he can be that guy as long as he gets a steady dose of targets.

IMO your trying to reduce risk and maximize value in the 1st round. Too much risk for me on Burks due to bust factor.