Twitter: Cowboys told Ramsey Taking Him At 4

[CowboysFaninHouston]

At about :40 Mark on…love of Boys

stupid is what stupid does

 

[xwalker]

At about :40 Mark on…love of Boys

A blurb from that draft:
"Some scouts on the road think he's overrated and some think he's the next Richard Sherman. We all agree that he's going to win the combine and that (Mike) Mayock won't stop talking about him." -- NFC director of football operations

He had microfracture surgery on his knee in his sophomore year of high school.

Personality Issues were a concern when he was drafted.
- Those have shown up in his NFL career:

On April 25, 2019, the Jaguars picked up the fifth-year option on Ramsey's contract.[71] Ramsey started the Jaguars' first three games, totaling 13 solo tackles with a pass deflection and a forced fumble. However, during a 13–12 loss to the Houston Texans in Week 2, Ramsey was involved in a verbal altercation with Jaguars head coach Doug Marrone, and the player and coach had to be physically restrained from each other.[72] The following day, reports surfaced that Ramsey was demanding a trade, but he started the following week in a 20–7 victory over the Tennessee Titans, the Jaguars' first victory of the season.[73] The following week, Ramsey was placed on the inactive list, with the team announcing that Ramsey would be absent in order to attend the birth of his second child.[74] Ramsey would never play for the Jaguars again, remaining on Jacksonville's inactive list from Week 4 through Week 6.

2020
Following a 17–9 Week 4 victory against the New York Giants, a fight broke out between Ramsey and his ex-girlfriend’s brother Golden Tate after the game was over due in part to Ramsey’s comments against Tate’s sister Breanna who had two children with him. On October 10, 2020, Ramsey was fined $15,625 for his role in the postgame fight.

 

[shabazz]

Ezekiel Elliott wants to know what a "SB" is.

Line one.

I have to admit that Zeke was thrilling to watch his first 3 seasons. Trucking dudes and moving the sticks

The mistake was to extend him but at least he had the numbers to back it up….miss that player

 

[DFWJC]

Ramsey or slight trade down.....but not Elliott at 4.
that was my stance then and it still is.

But to be fair, Zeke was very good his first few years. Just, for so many reasons, not worth the 4th overall pick.

Ramsey and Henry would've been nice.

 

[CouchCoach]

Parcells told Merriman they were taking him with their 1st pick.

Parcells summed it up before his first Cowboys draft when he said that lying is acceptable about the draft and then laughed about it.

Think any smart GM is going to trust a player to keep his mouth shut? Of course, we can't trust this GM to keep his mouth shut.

 

[fivetwos]

On the bright side, with no Eliiott in 2016, we probably only blow ONE one seed in 15 years instead of two.

 

[CouchCoach]

Ramsey or slight trade down.....but not Elliott at 4.
that was my stance then and it still is.

But to be fair, Zeke was very good his first few years. Just, for so many reasons, not worth the 4th overall pick.

Ramsey and Henry would've been nice.

There was a Bama alum screaming that at the time and we shouted him down. He was right,

 

[CWR]

For a few years it was the right decision. However, it has been the wrong call since then. Hell I'd still support it if he was still running the ball like 2016. I've never witnessed a running back wear down so quickly. There are milestones; carries in a season, carries over time, and age. Zeke wore down before hitting those.

Jerry caving on his contract was one of his worst decisions to date. I understand where we were that off season. We looked primed to take a run. Nonetheless it was a huge mistake, worse than even drafting him.

Far as those that scream you don't take a RB that early, yall were right. Now let's not get cocky, because half yall were also saying you don't take an off ball line backer that early as well (Parsons.)

 

[Miller]

A blurb from that draft:
"Some scouts on the road think he's overrated and some think he's the next Richard Sherman. We all agree that he's going to win the combine and that (Mike) Mayock won't stop talking about him." -- NFC director of football operations

He had microfracture surgery on his knee in his sophomore year of high school.

Personality Issues were a concern when he was drafted.
- Those have shown up in his NFL career:

On April 25, 2019, the Jaguars picked up the fifth-year option on Ramsey's contract.[71] Ramsey started the Jaguars' first three games, totaling 13 solo tackles with a pass deflection and a forced fumble. However, during a 13–12 loss to the Houston Texans in Week 2, Ramsey was involved in a verbal altercation with Jaguars head coach Doug Marrone, and the player and coach had to be physically restrained from each other.[72] The following day, reports surfaced that Ramsey was demanding a trade, but he started the following week in a 20–7 victory over the Tennessee Titans, the Jaguars' first victory of the season.[73] The following week, Ramsey was placed on the inactive list, with the team announcing that Ramsey would be absent in order to attend the birth of his second child.[74] Ramsey would never play for the Jaguars again, remaining on Jacksonville's inactive list from Week 4 through Week 6.

2020
Following a 17–9 Week 4 victory against the New York Giants, a fight broke out between Ramsey and his ex-girlfriend’s brother Golden Tate after the game was over due in part to Ramsey’s comments against Tate’s sister Breanna who had two children with him. On October 10, 2020, Ramsey was fined $15,625 for his role in the postgame fight.

Well we would have been even considering Zekes personal issues too, .

Good draft info

 

[mattjames2010]

People will call this hindsight, but there were plenty of members on this board including me that thought Ramsey should have been the obvious pick.

Taking an RB in the top 5 that wasn't anywhere close to having a once in a generation type of talent is one of the more idiotic picks we've had in years.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

For how long? Romo was falling apart, physically. That wasn't going to lessen with age.

I'm confident the Jones boys would've screwed it up, either way. It's what they do.

Oh they would have screwed it up for sure, but I believe Romo would have stuck around for a couple more years unless he once again got a bad injury.

 

[fivetwos]

I have to admit that Zeke was thrilling to watch his first 3 seasons. Trucking dudes and moving the sticks

The mistake was to extend him but at least he had the numbers to back it up….miss that player

He was the man in 16.

Also ruined the 17 season with his antics.

18 was his peak.

Funny how he grew up after noticing that second contract had a personal conduct policy.

Thing is....he had many miles on him when he got here.....and that agent knew exactly when to strike. I didn't mind paying him at the time but the kind of guarantee he was given was unprecedented and unmatched at the position since.

How many RBs over the last 20 years were top 3 fantasy picks, then out of the league and/or non factors a season or two thereafter?

It's a steep cliff at RB.

 

[CouchCoach]

People will call this hindsight, but there were plenty of members on this board including me that thought Ramsey should have been the obvious pick.

Taking an RB in the top 5 that wasn't anywhere close to having a once in a generation type of talent is one of the more idiotic picks we've had in years.

I think the kink in the chain was Romo was coming off an injury and Meyer said Elliott was the best player without the ball he'd ever seen.

I think Booger thought Elliott was his next Emmit because of the all around back part of Emmitt's game was also Elliott's. And this owner is always going to lean toward the offense and skill players.

 

[Stash]

I call BS on Ramsey. Cowboys said something more like they would consider him at #4.

I am still glad they took Elliot instead. If for anything else, to see the meltdowns.

Also if Ramsey was the pick, all the ones wanting him, would have been whining about the huge contract he would have wanted and if he got it.
You would say Stephen is an idiot to pay that much.

Nice attempted excuse making. A big fat fail, but nice attempt nonetheless.

 

[Stash]

A blurb from that draft:
"Some scouts on the road think he's overrated and some think he's the next Richard Sherman. We all agree that he's going to win the combine and that (Mike) Mayock won't stop talking about him." -- NFC director of football operations

He had microfracture surgery on his knee in his sophomore year of high school.

Personality Issues were a concern when he was drafted.
- Those have shown up in his NFL career:

On April 25, 2019, the Jaguars picked up the fifth-year option on Ramsey's contract.[71] Ramsey started the Jaguars' first three games, totaling 13 solo tackles with a pass deflection and a forced fumble. However, during a 13–12 loss to the Houston Texans in Week 2, Ramsey was involved in a verbal altercation with Jaguars head coach Doug Marrone, and the player and coach had to be physically restrained from each other.[72] The following day, reports surfaced that Ramsey was demanding a trade, but he started the following week in a 20–7 victory over the Tennessee Titans, the Jaguars' first victory of the season.[73] The following week, Ramsey was placed on the inactive list, with the team announcing that Ramsey would be absent in order to attend the birth of his second child.[74] Ramsey would never play for the Jaguars again, remaining on Jacksonville's inactive list from Week 4 through Week 6.

2020
Following a 17–9 Week 4 victory against the New York Giants, a fight broke out between Ramsey and his ex-girlfriend’s brother Golden Tate after the game was over due in part to Ramsey’s comments against Tate’s sister Breanna who had two children with him. On October 10, 2020, Ramsey was fined $15,625 for his role in the postgame fight.

And we got this:

https://syndication.bleacherreport....pended-6-games-for-domestic-violence.amp.html

 

[Whyjerry]

Little did they realize the toll that time would take on Elliott . . .

Time or Zeke? Zeke did not help his longevity.

BTW we could have a top 3 CB now or a broken down, expensive RB - which one are you taking?

 

[baltcowboy]

In an alternate history we draft Ramsey instead of Zeke and things would be very different.

Dak doesn't have Zeke winning the rushing title by over 300 yards and being 1st team all pro and riding that wave to the #1 seed their rookie year.

What happens with Dak if he doesn't have the best RB in the NFL for his first 3 seasons? Romo surely gets his spot back in 2016 and Dak is now the back up? Does he ever get a chance to be the guy? Would he even be in the league right now?

What happens with the defense? Zeke made the Cowboys better in the short term, but Ramsey would have been the better guy long term. Zeke is now washed while Ramsey still plays at a pretty high level.

We would not have those horrible Zeke or Dak contracts right now. We'd have Ramsey on a big contract, but he'd be much better value than both Zeke and Dak.

Looking back, it's clear the Cowboys made the wrong choice.

If the Cowboys drafted Ramsey, I would think the team would have drafted the big man (Derrick Henry) from Alabama in the second round. Dak would be even better.

 

[Ranching]

Whiners!!

 

[jazzcat22]

Nice attempted excuse making. A big fat fail, but nice attempt nonetheless.

Not an excuse, just the truth.
Too bad many can't handle it.

 

[mattjames2010]

If the Cowboys drafted Ramsey, I would think the team would have drafted the big man (Derrick Henry) from Alabama in the second round. Dak would be even better.

This is actually the draft (outside of Dak, who wasn't on most radar at the time) wanted. Go with Ramsey and then grab Henry. There were countless RBs who could have ran behind that 2016 line, it was at it's peak with run blocking.