One word: Reach

[MountaineerCowboy]

I wonder what local community college or flag football players Jerry drafts with the rest of our picks?

 

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

It took a little bit but I knew some complaints were coming.

I am loving what we are doing and filling needs.

 

[Vinnie2u]

It took a little bit but I knew some complaints were coming.

I like it.. It lets me know who to put on ignore

 

[Flamma]

I see the usual suspects are rushing to defend ownership that averages a wild card playoff win every decade. Jerry and his ego thank you from the bottom of his wallet.

Yeah, you won't see me doing that. I'll need a reason, and they haven't given me one. I realize it's pointless to whine now, but people like to give opinions and sometimes vent.

 

[Carson]

I see the usual suspects are rushing to defend ownership that averages a wild card playoff win every decade. Jerry and his ego thank you from the bottom of his wallet.

As posted here. People aren't defending the team or Jerry. They are defending they draft well

Most All-Pro draft picks since 2010:

Cowboys: 9
49ers: 7
Five other teams: 6

2010: Dez Bryant, Sean Lee
2011: Tyron Smith, DeMarco Murray
2013: Travis Frederick
2014: Zack Martin
2016: Ezekiel Elliott
2020: Trevon Diggs
2021: Micah Parsons

We suck at free agency but we draft very well

 

[Ken]

Sounds like someone got up on the wrong side of the bed today! Try to relax and hope for the best. I know it's hard but you can do it.

The contingent of people who are completely miserable and have to be negative about everything is quite considerable on this site.

 

[Ken]

If you want to talk about reaching,.,,look at the patriots picks

Even traded up to reach lol

 

[darthseinfeld]

This franchise continues to have a different grading scale for the draft. That would be fine, if it produces playoff wins but Dallas knows that has not happen for closing in on three decades.
Sure, there are those that will say, look at all the Pro-Bowl "success" the Cowboys have drafted in the 1st round. Maybe better than any organization.
My rebuttal to that: Do not care about personal players achievements !

This franchise is equivalent to the Detroit Lions/Cleveland Browns in how poor they are in playoff wins
The bottom of the barrel. The 3 WORST teams in producing playoff wins in 3 decades. Don't care about Pro-Bowls, 1,000 rushing yards, receiving yards, interceptions, TD passes, sacks, tackles, etc.....

WIN playoff games.........period.

Dallas draft appears have ingredients of either reaching for a player and/or taking player and then using him differently than what he did in college. Draft a LB and use him at DE. Draft a OT and move him to guard or opposite his position say RG to LG. The NFL is a big learning adjustment to begin with and then to apply these rookies in a different position is another animal.

Now, over the years, the Cowboys also love to draft grades that fall to the 2nd rd because of "issues" and once again, the team takes another "issue" 2nd rounder. There is a reason why Dallas has been horrible with past 2nd rounders. Then little success with 5th rounders and later.

This draft strategy, along with sub par/poor coaching, has crippled this organization for far too long.

Using the "LB as a DE" caused us to get more out of Parson than Oakland got out of Mack during his DMVP seasons

 

[Parcells4Life]

So we don’t want the front office to draft all pro players? Gotcha.

 

[darthseinfeld]

I see the usual suspects are rushing to defend ownership that averages a wild card playoff win every decade. Jerry and his ego thank you from the bottom of his wallet.

Someone needs to create a discussion here. This board has turned a long series of 26 years rants. I get it, but at some point it gets as tiring as losing

 

[nightrain]

Sometimes it's worthwhile to "reach" for a prospect when you have thoroughly scouted him and determined his ceiling is beyond those players ahead of him on the media board. I'm not a big fan of generally acquiring players with a troubled past, but those opportunities have to be taken on a case by case basis.

As always, I will hold judgment on draft picks until they get on the field and produce.

 

[cowboyec]

most projected tyler smith would slide inside to start.
not just here but with whoever got him.
speaking of reach...he's got it with 34'in arm length and 84'in wingspan.
when he does move back to ot...he'll have it covered...and with those big hands...lock it down.
sam williams is an edge.
de.
olb.
whatever.
he gets to the qb....if he does that...i dont care where they line him up.
our new wr was considered a 2nd Rd player.
we got him at 88 in the 3rd.
not a reach.
a steal.

 

[Flamma]

Most All-Pro draft picks since 2010:

Cowboys: 9
49ers: 7
Five other teams: 6

2010: Dez Bryant, Sean Lee
2011: Tyron Smith, DeMarco Murray
2013: Travis Frederick
2014: Zack Martin
2016: Ezekiel Elliott
2020: Trevon Diggs
2021: Micah Parsons

We suck at free agency but we draft very well

It's not necessarily who they're drafting, but how are they improving the team with the draft. The way the draft played out, it would have been wiser to take the top 10 player that fell to us, then Travis Jones in the 2nd. Add Wagner from FA and now the D is (theoretically) improved. Deal with offensive line and WR in the next two rounds.

I realize this is not what the Cowboys do. Unless someone they love falls, they fill positions of need straight away in the draft. Then the team ends up being much like it was the previous season, plus or minus depending on player development VS player degradation. And whoever they get in the later rounds.

So even if they draft well, it's not getting them too far. I think they had their minds set on Sam Williams in the 2nd, and that's why they went OL in the 1st. It will be interesting to see how well he does compared to the one they passed up.

 

[charron]

The cowboys have proven that just because you draft well every year it is not enough to build a playoff winning roster alone.

 

[jazzcat22]

No one is putting personal accolades over team success. But it's dumb to pretend a guy is a bad pick because he makes a Pro Bowl but the team doesn't win. There's more to it than that. I don't think our drafting is the reason we haven't had playoff success at all. I think our drafting with McClay has been really good. But, I agree on the 2nd rounders. I always called it Jerry's round.

Our problem is overvaluing our own players and resigning them for too much money and not being big enough players in free agency. I'd rather see one $15M free agent than 3 $5M guys. Let our guys fill out the bottom of the roster, but go get a stud at a position of need in free agency for once to give us some additional impact players. The draft shouldn't be needed to fill huge gaping holes. That should have been done by the end of March.

They said on the ticket last night, Jerry himself said, he thinks the 2nd round is where you need to take gambles on.
Of course we all know better, but as long as Jerry feels this way, 2nd round will rarely be a success. And this harms the team.

 

[CoachD]

This franchise continues to have a different grading scale for the draft. That would be fine, if it produces playoff wins but Dallas knows that has not happen for closing in on three decades.
Sure, there are those that will say, look at all the Pro-Bowl "success" the Cowboys have drafted in the 1st round. Maybe better than any organization.
My rebuttal to that: Do not care about personal players achievements !

This franchise is equivalent to the Detroit Lions/Cleveland Browns in how poor they are in playoff wins
The bottom of the barrel. The 3 WORST teams in producing playoff wins in 3 decades. Don't care about Pro-Bowls, 1,000 rushing yards, receiving yards, interceptions, TD passes, sacks, tackles, etc.....

WIN playoff games.........period.

Dallas draft appears have ingredients of either reaching for a player and/or taking player and then using him differently than what he did in college. Draft a LB and use him at DE. Draft a OT and move him to guard or opposite his position say RG to LG. The NFL is a big learning adjustment to begin with and then to apply these rookies in a different position is another animal.

Now, over the years, the Cowboys also love to draft grades that fall to the 2nd rd because of "issues" and once again, the team takes another "issue" 2nd rounder. There is a reason why Dallas has been horrible with past 2nd rounders. Then little success with 5th rounders and later.

This draft strategy, along with sub par/poor coaching, has crippled this organization for far too long.

Well said Sully 26 years and counting.

 

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

I like it.. It lets me know who to put on ignore

LOL

 

[G2]

Some people had Travis Frederick as a 3rd rounder.

 

[DoctorChicken]

None of our draft picks were reaches.

Tyler Smith’s average mock draft position over the last few weeks has been pick #28. There were several players on the board I preferred in Rd 1, but that doesn’t make Smith a reach.

Williams and Tolbert were also considered to be taken in rounds 2 or 3.

 

[davey999]

I am loving what we are doing and filling needs.

They created the needs, then tried to fill them. Not a way to improve.