Video: Former NFL Executive Breaks Down How Teams Are Beating The Salary Cap

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Why don't the Cowboys operate this way?




Do what exactly? The video highlight's two opposing ways to conduct the CAP (Rams and 49er's). Despite the SB win I think you'll find both teams are pretty close talent wise.

To simplify, it's either pay-up front (49ers) or backload (Rams). If you are stacked, want to go all or nothing (with a serious problem in 2023/24) you go the Rams route.

We arent in the all-in camp just yet, too many holes.....not saying this wont change, however, this season we'll need to see advancement from a number of : Gallimore, Osa, Joseph, Cox, CeeDee, Gallup, Biadasz, Steele as well as true potential from this years draft class. If we do ,and taking into account the better outlook on the CAP, we could be looking at supplementing the roster as soon as this years trade deadline.
 

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Do what exactly? The video highlight's two opposing ways to conduct the CAP (Rams and 49er's). Despite the SB win I think you'll find both teams are pretty close talent wise.

To simplify, it's either pay-up front (49ers) or backload (Rams). If you are stacked, want to go all or nothing (with a serious problem in 2023/24) you go the Rams route.

We arent in the all-in camp just yet, too many holes.....not saying this wont change, however, this season we'll need to see advancement from a number of : Gallimore, Osa, Joseph, Cox, CeeDee, Gallup, Biadasz, Steele as well as true potential from this years draft class. If we do ,and taking into account the better outlook on the CAP, we could be looking at supplementing the roster as soon as this years trade deadline.

Dallas will never be in all in mode. If you think the holes on the roster are why Dallas isn’t in all in mode, you are wrong. Stephen has made it very clear, he does not operate this way.
 

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Think about this

In a sport where cash is king. Having the ability to manipulate the cap - using this cash over cap method. While being the most valuable franchise in the ENTIRE WORLD and these two idiots, dumb and dumber still can’t figure out a way to reach an nfc championship game. The level of their ineptitude knows no bounds.
 

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Dallas has 1 player in the top 87 in the entire nfl in total cash for 2022! 1! Think about that. It’s Dak ranked #40. Nobody else on Dallas roster ranks in the top 87 players in the league in cash they are making in 2022.

Dallas ranks 24th in the league in total cash spent this season. 24th. The team with the most cash in the entire league, chooses not to spend it. The biggest resource you can use to win football games, goes unused by this franchise.
 
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Damn I wish our FO was this fricken smart. We have all the money in the world. And we can do what the Rams do. Why don't we?

We did this with Dak's extension. Dak made 75M in 2021. 66M was signing bonus. Thats a ton of cash up front.

The problem is the Jones boys are so football ignorant, they don't know who to bet on........ this is particularly true outside the organization. They aren't going to go out and make that "cash over cap" bet on players they aren't familiar with ..........which is most all of them. If you ran into Jerry or Stephen in a bar and asked them to name the starting defensive unit for the Denver Broncos or Balitmore Ravens, they couldn't do it. While Les Snead could probably name every player who wore a jersey in the NFL last year and every teams current practice squad.

This is the inherent problem with not having a legitimate dedicated GM.
 
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We did this with Dak's extension. Dak made 75M in 2021. 66M was signing bonus. Thats a ton of cash up front.

The problem is the Jones boys are so football ignorant, they don't know who to bet on........ this is particularly true outside the organization. They aren't going to go out and make that "cash over cap" bet on players they aren't familiar with ..........which is most all of them. If you ran into Jerry or Stephen in a bar and asked them to name the starting defensive unit for the Denver Broncos or Balitmore Ravens, they couldn't do it. While Les Snead could probably name every player who wore a jersey in the NFL last year and every teams current practice squad.

This is the inherent problem with not having a legitimate dedicated GM.

I agree with you. The problem is their lack of football knowledge. They really don't know who to bet or who to cut. A smart GM would have gotten rid of Elliott and Tank. They sign their players to big deals because they have no idea what this team needs. It's a sad turn of event that Jerry is going to be passing the torch to Stephen who is even worst this his father.
 

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Dallas has 1 player in the top 87 in the entire nfl in total cash for 2022! 1! Think about that. It’s Dak ranked #40. Nobody else on Dallas roster ranks in the top 87 players in the league in cash they are making in 2022.

Dallas ranks 24th in the league in total cash spent this season. 24th. The team with the most cash in the entire league, chooses not to spend it. The biggest resource you can use to win football games, goes unused by this franchise.

i think your seeing the other money from the jones drying up so they are padding the bank account so they can use the cap like the smaller market teams do, while still maximizing there profit and not pay out of there own pocket. jerry has gone on record and said he would write a blank check to win another super bowl but he’s not done it. he’s also not put jimmy in the roh he’s all show and no go. Stephen is trying to bellechek money ball the team so he does not have to pay out but to a few positions and fill rest in draft and sign own players.
 

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i think your seeing the other money from the jones drying up so they are padding the bank account so they can use the cap like the smaller market teams do, while still maximizing there profit and not pay out of there own pocket. jerry has gone on record and said he would write a blank check to win another super bowl but he’s not done it. he’s also not put jimmy in the roh he’s all show and no go. Stephen is trying to bellechek money ball the team so he does not have to pay out but to a few positions and fill rest in draft and sign own players.

You cannot look at the teams cap in any individual season and draw conclusions b/c of the loophole in the salary cap called the signing bonus. Dak is a perfect example. He's not in the top 50 salaries this year b/c he was paid 75M last year. 66M of that 75 is spread out over 5 years. So, it appears he's not making much this year. But, thats an illusion and how the cap game is played. The problem in Dallas is that even if their was no cap at all, Jerry and Stephen do not possess the expertise to build a team even with a blank check.
 

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Do what exactly? The video highlight's two opposing ways to conduct the CAP (Rams and 49er's). Despite the SB win I think you'll find both teams are pretty close talent wise.

To simplify, it's either pay-up front (49ers) or backload (Rams). If you are stacked, want to go all or nothing (with a serious problem in 2023/24) you go the Rams route.

We arent in the all-in camp just yet, too many holes.....not saying this wont change, however, this season we'll need to see advancement from a number of : Gallimore, Osa, Joseph, Cox, CeeDee, Gallup, Biadasz, Steele as well as true potential from this years draft class. If we do ,and taking into account the better outlook on the CAP, we could be looking at supplementing the roster as soon as this years trade deadline.
The Cowboys are in pretty good shape going forward. I like what they are doing. Hard to believe how stupid some of these negative fans are. Just look at what they say in this thread.
 

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Think about this

In a sport where cash is king. Having the ability to manipulate the cap - using this cash over cap method. While being the most valuable franchise in the ENTIRE WORLD and these two idiots, dumb and dumber still can’t figure out a way to reach an nfc championship game. The level of their ineptitude knows no bounds.
Dumb and Dumber have built a good team and are in good shape for the future at this point. They have a good chance of winning the division this year, that is why they are the favorite to do so. They could very well go to the NFC championship. The real dumb and dumber are the negative fans.
 

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Dallas has 1 player in the top 87 in the entire nfl in total cash for 2022! 1! Think about that. It’s Dak ranked #40. Nobody else on Dallas roster ranks in the top 87 players in the league in cash they are making in 2022.

Dallas ranks 24th in the league in total cash spent this season. 24th. The team with the most cash in the entire league, chooses not to spend it. The biggest resource you can use to win football games, goes unused by this franchise.

That's an obtuse argument. You know perfectly well the difference between cash paid out (to the player in Bonus) and the CAP which is just an accounting scheme where teams can proportion the bonus. The issue isnt spending this year, it's that most contracts ( e.g. Gregory and Coop's new contracts) will pay bonus up front, but hit's the CAP in 2023 and 24).
 

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We did this with Dak's extension. Dak made 75M in 2021. 66M was signing bonus. Thats a ton of cash up front.

The problem is the Jones boys are so football ignorant, they don't know who to bet on........ this is particularly true outside the organization. They aren't going to go out and make that "cash over cap" bet on players they aren't familiar with ..........which is most all of them. If you ran into Jerry or Stephen in a bar and asked them to name the starting defensive unit for the Denver Broncos or Balitmore Ravens, they couldn't do it. While Les Snead could probably name every player who wore a jersey in the NFL last year and every teams current practice squad.

This is the inherent problem with not having a legitimate dedicated GM.
Well said. And more of our fans need to recognize, the Cowboys are not a “win at all cost” organization. This organization’s primary purpose is to be relevant and make money, and that’s different than a complete dedication to winning a championship.

Winning a championship would be nice for the Jones boys, but not at the cost of getting to play football big shot with their toy. They do just enough to keep the fan base from realizing that despite their business acumen, the Jones boys are lousy on-field football executives. They are completely devoid of accountability for their mistakes which has poisoned the health of this once exemplary organization.

If this team is competing for a playoff spot, viewership is high, fans are showing up to Jerry’s shopping mall stayjum, jersey sales for star players are profitable, and Jerry gets a lot of media attention, it’s been a successful season. That’s how the Jones boys roll. The owners of the last 27 SB winners somehow realized they needed to hire someone else to manage football operations beside themselves. Go figure.
 

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Dallas will never be in all in mode. If you think the holes on the roster are why Dallas isn’t in all in mode, you are wrong. Stephen has made it very clear, he does not operate this way.

Whilst I agree that Stephen may well be cautious, I agree with him that now isnt the year to go all in. It's not necessarily the holes that he's worried about, it could well be that we've a fair number of recent draftee's whom we havent fully assessed as to their potential.

I would argue that if we reversed the first and second halves of last season we'd be in a position to say, we're making progress, however, as we ended there's issues with: both lines, our ability to run and stop the run and a QB that we arent sure whether his drop off in form was due to weariness due to injuries and whether he can bounce back.

This time next year most of these questions should be answered one way or another.
 

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Dallas has 1 player in the top 87 in the entire nfl in total cash for 2022! 1! Think about that. It’s Dak ranked #40. Nobody else on Dallas roster ranks in the top 87 players in the league in cash they are making in 2022.

Dallas ranks 24th in the league in total cash spent this season. 24th. The team with the most cash in the entire league, chooses not to spend it. The biggest resource you can use to win football games, goes unused by this franchise.

How do you get they have the most cash....just because Jerry has cash, doesn't make it so. It does not matter what owner is the richest or team is worth the most.
Every team operates with the same cap space limits.

And now post June1st with he $$$ from Collins they have about $23 million in cap space. That is for next season, as what do you want them to do with it now?
And if they did use it, fans would whine for using it. Fans want cap space but whine when they don't have any saying they spend it on players. But also whine when they have it but don't spend it.
 

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I would think if anyone would want to manipulate the cap by throwing some cash around for the chance of near term success at the expense of a period of suckage down the road, it would be Jerry.
 

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There is a major difference between the Rams and the Cowboys. The Rams have to win. That is the only way they keep the fans coming.
 

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I agree with you. The problem is their lack of football knowledge. They really don't know who to bet or who to cut. A smart GM would have gotten rid of Elliott and Tank. They sign their players to big deals because they have no idea what this team needs. It's a sad turn of event that Jerry is going to be passing the torch to Stephen who is even worst this his father.
Tank is an elite player still. Elliott I agree.
 

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Damn I wish our FO was this fricken smart. We have all the money in the world. And we can do what the Rams do. Why don't we?

We do, with some players. We did it with Lawrence and we did it with Dak. We did not do it with Cooper and now we know why. We gave Cooper lots of salary and just a small bonus so that we could separate from him without taking a big CAP hit. Every time the Cowboys restructure a player they are paying cash over CAP. They convert his salary to bonus an then spread the bonus over multiple years. No team can do this with every player on the roster or at some point in the future they will wind up owing more CAP than they can save by cutting players. In fact, cutting players would make the problem worse.

The strategy the Rams are using is a high risk high reward strategy. If they don't win the Super Bowl, they will have CAP problems down the road and nothing to show for it. But if they do win the Super Bowl, as they did, at least they have that to show when they take their CAP punishment for a couple of years down the road.

Other teams have done what the Rams did but did not win the Super Bowl. I think a few teams are trying a similar strategy this year, just not as aggressively. We'll see where it gets them.
 
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