News: BTB: The Dallas Cowboys didn’t “blow up” the roster even if some observers think so

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We replaced the players we lost through the draft and with other young players that were already on the roster. Cooper was the only real,loss and I think we’ll be fine without him, especially after Gallup gets back healthy. The Patriots have been using this strategy and winning titles for 2 decades.
 

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Sure, it wasn't a total gut job but one is arguing semantics debating if they "blew it up" or not. They got rid of productive players for "other reasons". I mean, is anyone surprised that after dumping Cooper for a bag of donuts it gets leaked that he was "difficult"? Sure he was. The Cowboys are just in cover mode for what turned out to be a bad trade, especially when you saw what other WRs got traded for.
 

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Lael Collins was the worst offseason move we made. He shouldve been kept for 10 million a year he could play 3 positions on the OL and relatively young. He was also a beast and bought a mean streak to the field something this team lacks.
 

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Yah I get it bro. Me too. But its NEVER been next year to be honest. This team has NEVER been good enough. Maybe that one year with Wade and that one year with Garrett, but no chance that was happening with the coaching.
I don't know if it's about adding more players vs finding a way to not be seriously outcoached and under prepared in the biggest of spots.

It's been a problem under several HC, namely in the second round of the playoffs.
 

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Teams get instantly better every year. There was absolutely no reason for us to take a step sideways when a few moves might could have put us in position to win a title now. Other teams have shown that method works. No team has shown that the method we are using works.

You need to build with young talent and supplement with a few high-quality players. Looking ahead three or four years only means that some of the talent you have now may be gone. Tyron will probably be retired then, possibly Martin. Elliott and Pollard could both be gone. Lawrence might be too. Diggs and Lamb could price themselves out of Dallas when they become FAs. Three or four years from now, this could be a very different team.

Yah well we can disagree on that. This team isnt ready for a title. Too many young guys to rely on. And if they go for it now, they probably ruin the real run coming up in 2023 forward.

Im glad the Cowboys arent concerned about a few impatient fans that think they should think only about the current season. Play the long game. They have been playing the short game and it hasnt worked.
 

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They contributed to our defensive success as starters. It's quite possible that players like Cox will contribute more, but it's hard to say. We're counting on a second-year player who showed promise but had little playing time. Meanwhile, the Rams, a team that already was better than us, adds a linebacker like Bobby Wagner. That's not exactly the way you catch a Super Bowl-winning team.

It's great that we retained Kearse. It's great that we draft well. It's sad that we don't better use free agency to improve our chances of competing now.

EXACTLY. We have no idea how some of these young guys are going to show. So no sense in mortgaging the future to go for it now.
 

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They contributed to our defensive success as starters. It's quite possible that players like Cox will contribute more, but it's hard to say. We're counting on a second-year player who showed promise but had little playing time. Meanwhile, the Rams, a team that already was better than us, adds a linebacker like Bobby Wagner. That's not exactly the way you catch a Super Bowl-winning team.

It's great that we retained Kearse. It's great that we draft well. It's sad that we don't better use free agency to improve our chances of competing now.

Everyone says look at what the Rams are doing. But you look back 3 years ago and what did the Rams do? They not only went sideways, they actually went backwards.

Had to get out from a few bad contracts including Todd Gurley. Not much different then our situation with Zeke. McVay knew he had to restructure the team and get rid of both Gurley and Goff and find a QB. Took them 3 years to do all that and it wasnt going up every year. They took a step back in order to restructure and get the right pieces they needed for the run. Now they are on the run.
 

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I don't know if it's about adding more players vs finding a way to not be seriously outcoached and under prepared in the biggest of spots.

It's been a problem under several HC, namely in the second round of the playoffs.

Cowboys had holes. SF was a great team that was perfectly designed to exploit them. Our Oline sucked and our defense was susceptible to the run. They were the tougher team.

Yep and they had better coaching.
 

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Cowboys had holes. SF was a great team that was perfectly designed to exploit them. Our Oline sucked and our defense was susceptible to the run. They were the tougher team.

Yep and they had better coaching.
Yep. Gotcha.

I've just been watching for years upon years when it's like....OK fix this hole, fix that hole, etc....only to find other problems arise. It's like perpetual whackamole. Even if you build the perfect roster, it won't last long.

But that's life in salary cap era NFL. Maybe it's up to the staff to scheme around it. Question is can they?

Garrett was as piss poor at that as one could possibly imagine, and I'm not sure his protégé is much different.

I see a defense ready to take off to the next level under a real football coach and Jerrys fingerprints still all over the offense.

For MM to publicly proclaim he had nothing to do with the offense is quite revealing.
 

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I guess what I am trying to say is that I actually think they are building the team the right way at the moment. They finally have quality coaching that is giving him good advice. They are clearing out the cap and setting up the roster with young talent for a nice run coming up.

But yah, that only works if at some point in the next year or two they use FA to get us over the hump.
Yup, they are. Unless we freak out and start drafting and trading for CB's and WR's again, we are on the right track. Still need that difference maker at DT.
 

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Yep. Gotcha.

I've just been watching for years upon years when it's like....OK fix this hole, fix that hole, etc....only to find other problems arise. It's like perpetual whackamole. Even if you build the perfect roster, it won't last long.

But that's life in salary cap era NFL. Maybe it's up to the staff to scheme around it. Question is can they?

Garrett was as piss poor at that as one could possibly imagine, and I'm not sure his protégé is much different.

I see a defense ready to take off to the next level under a real football coach and Jerrys fingerprints still all over the offense.

For MM to publicly proclaim he had nothing to do with the offense is quite revealing.
We never fix the holes at DT and S, and those are the holes that count.
 

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We replaced the players we lost through the draft and with other young players that were already on the roster. Cooper was the only real,loss and I think we’ll be fine without him, especially after Gallup gets back healthy. The Patriots have been using this strategy and winning titles for 2 decades.
Along w/ the strategy of signing hosses for the DLine.
 

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Sure, it wasn't a total gut job but one is arguing semantics debating if they "blew it up" or not. They got rid of productive players for "other reasons". I mean, is anyone surprised that after dumping Cooper for a bag of donuts it gets leaked that he was "difficult"? Sure he was. The Cowboys are just in cover mode for what turned out to be a bad trade, especially when you saw what other WRs got traded for.
2 bad trades. When we traded for him, and when we traded him away.
 

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We never fix the holes at DT and S, and those are the holes that count.
Other than using 1st round capital, I think they have tried at DT....with a 2nd and two 3rds. Well, other than the unthinkable....sign a quality FA.

Nevermind lol.
 

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Sure, it wasn't a total gut job but one is arguing semantics debating if they "blew it up" or not. They got rid of productive players for "other reasons". I mean, is anyone surprised that after dumping Cooper for a bag of donuts it gets leaked that he was "difficult"? Sure he was. The Cowboys are just in cover mode for what turned out to be a bad trade, especially when you saw what other WRs got traded for.

I agree the value we got stunk, but I do believe there was a good chance his attitude sucked. On his 3rd team and he always looks completely disinterested. We should have kept quite and acted like we had plans for him while shopping him. For a dude with that much talent to be on his 3rd team and not by his doing says a lot.
 

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Everyone wants to bring in free agent talent. But there's a tradeoff for that: a young guy loses a roster spot.
 

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I feel confident that the maturation and progress of the defense will overcome any loss of effectiveness that the offense may suffer this year. Inasmuch as our offense lost our most prolific WR in Amari Cooper, it's also true that his availability and consistency were a bit questionable. There will be some young players taking over the reins of those departing, who will play better than anyone expected. The talent is there to be tested and proven. It will be.

The quality of the UDFA players which this team acquired in the offseason was one that was widely recognized as the best in the NFL to be signed. The year 2022 will likely be a year that should serve as a surprise to many observers. If the Cowboys actually "blew up their roster" in the offseason, their recovery may be considered a trendsetter for recoveries in 2022. The Dallas Cowboys will do quite well in the season to come. Count on it.
 
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So far I have heard one person say they blew up the roster and that is the person in the tweet in this article.

I have no problem churning the roster. Jimmy did it with great success. But Jimmy always had his eye on getting better players than the ones he got rid of.

Getting rid of Cooper was not a bad idea. It was almost necessary because of his CAP hit. In fact, my guess is they had their eye on this move for a while. That's why they never restructured his deal which was made for restructuring. But knowing this was the case then why all the negative talk from the owner before putting him on the market? I would have talked him up until he developed a halo. Then I would have traded him for a decent draft pick. And if no one was willing to offer a 2nd round pick for him, I would have kept him and restructured his deal. I am not a great fan of Cooper but there is no way I would toss him aside for a 5th round pick.

Connor Williams was a problem last year. But do not undersell him. He is a decent LG who got a reputation for holding and the refs took advantage of that. In the right situation he will be a very dependable LG for someone. Still, I would not have kept him. The Cowboys need an upgrade at LG. My problem is they did not do anything to fill this role before the draft. They went into the draft needing to use a high pick on a LG.

La'el Collins is way better than some people here give him credit. He is better than Steele who I think is still a question mark. I read somewhere Collins was asked to move inside to LG and he refused. If so then trading him was the right thing to do. But again, the Cowboys gave away the fact they would cut him if they did not work out a trade so no one made a decent offer for him. Since his CAP relief would not come until June 1 anyway, why not hold onto him until after the draft or even until the season started and someone had a injury in training camp. The Cowboys got his CAP relief and they still have no used it. Players are like stocks. Sell high. The Cowboys and some fans are betting on Steele, Ball and another rookie who hasn't played a down either. They better be right about one of them.

I may be in the minority when it comes to Gregory, but I think he is a disruptive player who helped Parsons and the rest of this defense. He is not a perfect player, which is why he got $14 million not $18 million. At least the Cowboys made an effort to replace him with Fowler and Sam Williams, but it is another question mark if they can get the pressures Gregory had.

Neal and KaZee we no big losses and I don't know of anyone complaining they did not re-sign them. In fact, I think Kazee is last years Xavier Woods. The defense will be better without him.
 

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Yep. Gotcha.

I've just been watching for years upon years when it's like....OK fix this hole, fix that hole, etc....only to find other problems arise. It's like perpetual whackamole. Even if you build the perfect roster, it won't last long.

But that's life in salary cap era NFL. Maybe it's up to the staff to scheme around it. Question is can they?

Garrett was as piss poor at that as one could possibly imagine, and I'm not sure his protégé is much different.

I see a defense ready to take off to the next level under a real football coach and Jerrys fingerprints still all over the offense.

For MM to publicly proclaim he had nothing to do with the offense is quite revealing.

Jones just hasnt been a good enough GM to get both sides of the ball good enough.
 
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