Does Aikman win a SB with any team from Parcells forward?

[DonaldM]

Chuck Knoll didn't have a great relationship with Terry Bradshaw. Jr leage line.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

We have a winner!

I agree. Aikman's demeanor in the locker room and on the field would have been a big benefit to some of the better Cowboys teams. Romo never had that quality. But the 1990s teams also had Emmitt and Michael Irvin, two other players who have the same competitive fire and unselfishness on the field.

Those videos of Aikman getting into people on the sidelines (even the coaches if needed) are missing big time today.

We haven't seen that fire since.

 

[CowboyRoy]

He took some hard hits with a great OL.

Yah Aikman hung tough in the pocket when he knew he was going to get crushed. But that was usually when he was sitting in the pocket for a few seconds. If he got pressure quickly he was not good at escaping or throwing on the run.

 

[CouchCoach]

I think we have a better shot in 2014 and 2016 simply because of the real, not fake, leadership that he would provide.

That's something the Cowboys have been lacking from the QB position since he retired.

And never more evident with his displeasure with Switzer's laid back approach and how the team started that playoff game in SF.

Switzer had even made the comment about the difference he perceived between college and the pros when he said "these are men and I am going to treat them like men". He was wrong, pro football players need to be treated like older boys playing the same game.

Think Aikman didn't notice the difference between the intensity level of Johnson preparing for the playoffs as opposed to Switzer? Even the leader of the team, the QB, can have just so much effect.

 

[DonaldM]

Those videos of Aikman getting into people on the sidelines (even the coaches if needed) are missing big time today.

We haven't seen that fire since.

Agree. That's leadership.

 

[CouchCoach]

Yah Aikman hung tough in the pocket when he knew he was going to get crushed. But that was usually when he was sitting in the pocket for a few seconds. If he got pressure quickly he was not good at escaping or throwing on the run.

His rookie season was like watching a sacrifice. That PHL game was as nasty a game for a QB that I have ever seen, 11 sacks and 1 of them a body slam.

 

[xwalker]

Lets assume its not even a conversation with the teams from after the 90's up to Parcells. But do any of you feel that Aikman would have won a SB with the teams of Parcells, Wade, Garrett, MM?

The biggest issue is that Aikman would not have co-existed with Dez.
- I witnessed Aikman have a meltdown because WR Kevin Williams made his break on the route 1 step too early in training camp.
- Much the of reason that Romo was always scrambling around, was to buy time until Dez was semi-open and ready to the pass.

Aikman to Witten and TO would have been very good.

If I can swap Dez for Jordy Nelson or Randall Cobb in 2014?
- The OL was terrific then and it was DeMarco Murray's best season.

• Years with good enough defensive performances.
  • Points Allowed Ranking
    • 2003: 2nd
    • 2007: 13th
    • 2009: 2nd
    • 2014: 15th
    • 2015: 16th
    • 2016: 5th
    • 2017: 13th
    • 2018: 6th
    • 2019: 11th
    • 2021: 7th

• For reference with regards to WRs.
  • Terry Glenn and Joey Galloway in 2003.
  • TO 2006-2008
  • Roy Williams 2008-2010
  • Miles Austin Top Years: 2009-2012 (On roster 2006-2015)
  • Dez 2011-2017
  • Cooper 2018-2021
  • Gallup 2018-2021
  • Lamb 2020-2021

 

[xwalker]

Yah, Aikman wins no SB's without his all HOF team and Emmitt leading the way.

The flip-side of that is that if Aikman was with Belichick instead of Tom Brady, Aikman might have won more Super Bowls than Brady.

 

[Flamma]

Lets assume its not even a conversation with the teams from after the 90's up to Parcells. But do any of you feel that Aikman would have won a SB with the teams of Parcells, Wade, Garrett, MM?

I agree with the second post. But I do think the Cowboys beat the Giants in 2007 with Aikman. Then the Packers. I have no idea about the SB.

 

[Aven8]

Through all these years it’s been the defense that hasn’t been good enough. Wade probably had the best one of the bunch, but was susceptible up the middle. We’ve had plenty of all Star offensive talent.

 

[jazzcat22]

Lets assume its not even a conversation with the teams from after the 90's up to Parcells. But do any of you feel that Aikman would have won a SB with the teams of Parcells, Wade, Garrett, MM?

Yes I do.
Aikman could have led the NFL in passing, or one of the top passers if they called the plays. But with Emmitt and the running game, they didn't need to pass as often as teams do today.

Troy once said, that never bothered him. They were winning. He said if he was told before any season, if he would not complete a pass all year, but they would win the SB. He said he would take that in a heartbeat. Or something like that.

 

[Captain-Crash]

Does Warren Moon win more with a better team. one of the more underrated qb's

 

[Diehardblues]

Lets assume its not even a conversation with the teams from after the 90's up to Parcells. But do any of you feel that Aikman would have won a SB with the teams of Parcells, Wade, Garrett, MM?

It’s tough to say. Pure speculative of course but I’d think any HOF caliber QB could have possibly take a couple of these teams further . Like in 2007, 2014 and 2016 for example. We were just a possession away in all of those from a championship appearance. Who knows if you get that far.

Defensively I dont think we’ve had enough but in the Cap era you dont need to be great on both sides of the ball.

 

[CowboyRoy]

The flip-side of that is that if Aikman was with Belichick instead of Tom Brady, Aikman might have won more Super Bowls than Brady.

I dont think so. Brady was savvy in the pocket and could move around. I highly doubt Aikman can put up close to those 5000 yard 50 TD seasons. Aikman was a statue. Without a top flight Oline he was cooked. That game against SF where we were down by 21 in the first quarter highlighted Aikmans limitations. Threw 1 TD and 3 picks that game and they werent pretty. Couldnt pull it out without Emmitt or throwing 50 times.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Yes I do.
Aikman could have led the NFL in passing, or one of the top passers if they called the plays. But with Emmitt and the running game, they didn't need to pass as often as teams do today.

Troy once said, that never bothered him. They were winning. He said if he was told before any season, if he would not complete a pass all year, but they would win the SB. He said he would take that in a heartbeat. Or something like that.

Yah, this is laughable to me. I know Jimmy said this as well, but I saw no evidence of it. NO way in hell could Aikman have led the NFL in passing. He threw a highly accurate short to mid range laser, but he was NOT a high end deep ball passer. When he had to loft the ball up he wasnt close to as accurate.

 

[Diehardblues]

No, Aikman gets crushed on most of those Romo teams with a mediocre to bad line.

It wasn’t bad OL in 2007 and in 2014 it was considered one of best OL in league. In between it was awful . But those two seasons were Romo’s best window.

And that was the bigger issue. Not enough opportunities to knock down the door. In 10 years only 2 real shots IMO.

 

[MWH1967]

Aikman's OL had some of the best ever. Defense you could argue the same. RB was no slouch either. I'll give him the practice factor. Him and Irvin was so much on the same page they finished each other's sentence.

He came along at the perfect time.


Answer: No

 

[Diehardblues]

Aikman's OL had some of the best ever. Defense you could argue the same. RB was no slouch either. I'll give him the practice factor. Him and Irvin was so much on the same page they finished each other's sentence.

He came along at the perfect time.


Answer: No

If Troy could have survived until 2014 that was a great OL and could have dominated on offense. Probably closer to a championship caliber offense we have had this era. And Romo’s most effective season .

Could Troy have done a little more with it? It’s arguable but I argued back then I thought a Rodgers could have possibly done more.

 

[cowboyec]

prime troy?
yes.
especially '07....and the dez team that got screwed and '16.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

2016 yes, very good chance

Always have to remember competition is 50% about you, and 50% about who your opponent is.

in 2016 the GB team that beat you got blown off the face of the earth in the NFCCG by one of the greatest offenses in nfl history. And even then, Atlanta still couldn’t win the SB over an even better team in Brady and Belichick.

Aikman doesn’t fix the offensive playcalling, Garrett’s poor situational football, or Marinelli’s defensive shortcomings. No one was coming out of the NFC that year but Atlanta.