Twitter: Top 10 QBs According To Players, Coaches, and Execs

[john van brocklin]

Seems about right for Dak

 

[Dre11]

Just as the fact that Dak has not gone all the way is not a mark against him, the fact that Herbert has done less is also not a mark against him. The measure of a QB is simply how good are they because whether they win or not depends entirely on what you surround them with.

At the age of 33 Matt Stafford did not suddenly learn how to be a better QB, he simply had a better team around him but yet now everyone acts like NOW he is a great QB. He was great before and is great now but the only difference is that now people notice because he had a better team around him. Herbert is a great QB, and whether he wins or not in a loaded AFC will come entirely down to what they surround him with but he will be great regardless of what that is.

Again being labeled great after 2 years is laughable.

 

[plymkr]

He got traded and a massive amount of money. That’s not nothing

Exactly, it's almost like he got rewarded.

 

[Adreme]

Again being labeled great after 2 years is laughable.

Is it though? Lamar Jackson had half a season of starting then won the MVP the next year and everyone accepted he was great (even after a mediocre 2020 and an injury filled 2021). Joe Burrow has only started 1.5 seasons but nobody doubts him. Everyone knew Mahomes was great after his second season starting (people were pretty sure after the first). Herbert has had 2 great years. That was enough for others in the past and is enough now because when you have looked as good as he has and shown the fundamentals he has shown then you know what you have.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Very true. In terms of football fans, I don't know a more negative place.

Won't find one at all.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Is it though? Lamar Jackson had half a season of starting then won the MVP the next year and everyone accepted he was great (even after a mediocre 2020 and an injury filled 2021). Joe Burrow has only started 1.5 seasons but nobody doubts him. Everyone knew Mahomes was great after his second season starting (people were pretty sure after the first). Herbert has had 2 great years. That was enough for others in the past and is enough now because when you have looked as good as he has and shown the fundamentals he has shown then you know what you have.

Every single guy you named made the post season except Herbert.....

 

[Dre11]

Is it though? Lamar Jackson had half a season of starting then won the MVP the next year and everyone accepted he was great (even after a mediocre 2020 and an injury filled 2021). Joe Burrow has only started 1.5 seasons but nobody doubts him. Everyone knew Mahomes was great after his second season starting (people were pretty sure after the first). Herbert has had 2 great years. That was enough for others in the past and is enough now because when you have looked as good as he has and shown the fundamentals he has shown then you know what you have.

And Lamar hasn't been that same qb since. Burrow has to string a few seasons together to be considered great too. These players get anointed to fast.

 

[Adreme]

Every single guy you named made the post season except Herbert.....

Because they had better teams around them. The fact that Herbert could look that good without a good team around him sort of helps his status rather than hurting it.

 

[DFWJC]

I'm starting to get a bit pumped for the season.

How some of the QBs will do intrigues me,for starers.

• Will Allen continue his rise?
• Will Dak (please) improve on his 2nd half of last year? I assume yes., btw
• Will Mahomes and Rodgers still shine without their top WRs? I suspect they will.
• Will Herbert take the next step?
• Will Stafford follow up with another strong year?
• Will Trevor Lawrence regain his confidence after running for his life all year?
• Will Lance seize his chance in SF?
• Will Winston return to his injury form from 2021? If so, Saints will be formidable
• Will any 2022 rookie QBs start most of the games?

 

[DFWJC]

Because they had better teams around them. The fact that Herbert could look that good without a good team around him sort of helps his status rather than hurting it.

I think Herbert is very good, but I do think he has a very good team around him. They did have injuries though

 

[Dre11]

Because they had better teams around them. The fact that Herbert could look that good without a good team around him sort of helps his status rather than hurting it.

Stop it. You act like the guy had Chop liver. Keenan Allen, Mike Williams, Ekler..

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Stats coming from you is HILARIOUS! Especially when you are faced with stats that prove you wrong, you constantly and consistently post that "stats are for losers" video.


HILARIOUS!

A rook who continued his elite performance in his 2nd year instead of others(Dak) who dropped off big time.
One look at his play on the field tells any football fan this QB is leaps and bounds beyond Prescott's talent base.
Sorry if your feeling are hurt but this ain't about your passions it's about gridiron reality,
Can you deal with it?
Doubt it as your passions fester in areas that really have nothing to do with the game!

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Stop it. You act like the guy had Chop liver. Keenan Allen, Mike Williams, Ekler..

Ekeler has averaged 562 yards a season in his 5 year career

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I used 100 yard rusher and also stated in my comment that the numbers for a 100 yard rushing team were wayyy higher. He ignored it because it blew his argument out of the water. Not because he missed it. Then compounded that by trying to downplay what I said and be condescending which is just what he does

he does that often. you noticed how defensive he got when I called him. no reference to his argument, but pointed fingers at you...you comment was clear...

then he just wanted me to stop and wanted to diss me....

he hates, absolutely hates when he loses an argument and he will either attack you, divert or ask you to stop..

its comical

 

[Cowpolk]

Ekeler has averaged 562 yards a season in his 5 year career

Is that good

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I'd probably go:

1 - Mahomes - production, freakish skill set, has won a SB
2 - Rodgers - similar to Brady, still elite but Mahomes is just younger at this point
3 - Brady - he'd be a clear #1 a few years ago but while still good at his age, he doesn't have the skill set Mahomes possesses.
4 - Allen - Incredible skill set, has very good production and shown success in the playoffs. Another year like last year, vaults into the Top 3
5 - Herbert - he is the most freakish QB in the NFL right, moreso than Mahomes IMO. Has also produced his first two years
6 - Burrow - yes, he was up and down in the playoffs, but was still very good throughout the season
7 - Wilson - people keep saying he has been down, yet the last two years he's spit out ratings of over 100. If that's a down season, what is an up season?
8 - Stafford - numbers and won a SB. If he hadn't won a SB (say he had stayed in Detroit) I'd consider Dak over him
9 - Prescott
10 - Watson - this one is iffy because you are simply projecting based off a season two years ago. He could struggle to find his legs with that much time off.

If Carr can come up with another really good season next year, he could work his way into the Top 10. Same with Lamar Jackson.

watson hasn't played in over two years. everyone is thinking of Houston Watson of two years ago, although he had two 4 win seasons...contributed to it...cowboys managed to win 5 games with Quincy carter, campo and that cast of characters. the point being, you have to suck up and down the roster to win 4 games. so he is going to miss another half year? full year? and will he be the same. I wouldn't put him top 10....

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Yeah. There's certain posters that I just kinda skim through things with and you're one of em.

My fault on that one.

Oh well, it happens, moving on.

certain users like 99.8%...except for @PAPPYDOG...you love him oh so much

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

No. You care. You cared when you wrote your diatribe trying to make me look stupid. But when the rest of the board came after you doing the same thing it’s “I’ve moved on” “I don’t care” you’re a child.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

No. You care. You cared when you wrote your diatribe trying to make me look stupid. But when the rest of the board came after you doing the same thing it’s “I’ve moved on” “I don’t care” you’re a child.

yeah...I don't care. I don't read your post, but I respond to your post that I don't care about....not having read or understood it....

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

You like stats, right?

Did you know that if Herbert was a Cowboy he'd have the record for TDs and yards for a single season?

Dak and Romo wouldn't anymore.

Herbert did in year 2 what no Cowboys QB in history has ever done in those two categories.

It means nothing in the grand scheme of things, but I know you like stats and all.

isn't that called projecting? would he have the same numbers playing for Garrett or Moore as his OC? or was he in a better offensive situation? or are you just arguing because you think you have a winning logic and trying to redeem yourself for the other embarassement. then could we project that if Dak was with Chargers he would have similar output and stats? I mean, I am just projecting? just trying to understand your logic